[RDA-L] Seminar RDA in Europe, Copenhagen 8. August 2010

2010-08-26 Thread Anders Cato
The presentations from the seminar RDA in Europe - making it happen are now available on http://www.slainte.org.uk/eurig/meetings.htm Anders Cato Anders Cato Head of Cataloguing Kungl. biblioteket - National Library of Sweden PO Box 5039

Re: [RDA-L] New to list

2010-08-26 Thread MSHERMAN
No, you are definitely not alone. I consider myself pretty intelligent, and I've taken many workshops on FRBR, RDA, etc. Every time I think I figured it out, I've found something that doesn't fit what I thought I understood. Sigh. Maxine Sherman Cataloger Cuyahoga County Public Library

Re: [RDA-L] New to list

2010-08-26 Thread Jackie Johnson
Thanks all for your replies and reactions. I don't feel half so bad now! I feel as the supervisor of my team I have to try and do my best, but it's an uphill struggle. I'm sure as I get further into it I'll be very grateful for this support group! Regards Jackie Jackie Johnson Metadata

Re: [RDA-L] New to list

2010-08-26 Thread Bernhard Eversberg
Mark Ehlert wrote: As someone who's training others on RDA, I concur that parts of the new code are, if not impenetrable, certainly a tough row to hoe. Chapter 17 has been a real bear for me, for instance, though I think I finally managed to wrap my head most of it recently. The trouble is

Re: [RDA-L] New to list

2010-08-26 Thread Mark Ehlert
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Bernhard Eversberg e...@biblio.tu-bs.de wrote: Mark Ehlert wrote: As someone who's training others on RDA, I concur that parts of the new code are, if not impenetrable, certainly a tough row to hoe. Chapter 17 has been a real bear for me, for instance, though

Re: [RDA-L] New to list

2010-08-26 Thread Bob Hall
Hi Maxine! Long-time-no-chat. I concur with what you said; as well as everyone else's comments set forth in this thread! We've certainly discussed some of this in Cataloging Needs of Public Libraries at ALA. It it is true that we've been cataloging with AACR2 ... some of us since 1981.

Re: [RDA-L] RDA implementation

2010-08-26 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Library and Archives Canada (LAC) is their usual informative and helpful manner have answered my questions concerning RDA implementation. Basically, retrospectively they will change headings to match RDA forms, but will not retrospectively change description. We have found following LAC's lead

[RDA-L] Keep your access to RDA after August 31st

2010-08-26 Thread Troy Linker
The complimentary open-access period to the RDA Toolkit ends August 31, 2010. Thanks to the thousands of people who have tried out the RDA Toolkit during the 10-week open-access period. We'll be sending a brief survey in the near future seeking your input, to help us improve the product and

Re: [RDA-L] Understanding RDA (was: New to list)

2010-08-26 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Mark said: ,,,describe WEMI as levels of information about the thing being cataloged: for the book in hand, the work is the idea conveyed by the uniform (preferred) title or name-title heading; the expression describes in broad and narrow strokes the content, the language, the mode of

Re: [RDA-L] New to list

2010-08-26 Thread Gene Fieg
I was one of the reviewers of RDA when it was being written. Basically, the English is terrible. Very passive sounding. Long sentences. Distinctions that do not make a difference (Choice of entry and Recording of entry--why are they two different parts of the code and so far apart. I was told

Re: [RDA-L] Keep your access to RDA after August 31st

2010-08-26 Thread Bothmann, Robert L
My opinion/suggestion: It would be ideal to allow open access to the RDA rules via rdatoolkit.org throughout the entirety of all three of the U.S. Libraries testing phases. Testers will be creating records in the second phase of the test period, which is about to begin, and that is when I

Re: [RDA-L] Keep your access to RDA after August 31st

2010-08-26 Thread Linda Anne Divan
My boss asked me if we should buy this. I hadn't been paying too much attention to RDA since it seemed to be still in the testing phase and since I don't do much cataloging any more. So I spent a couple of days reading things about it, looking at the toolkit, etc. From what I can tell, you can

Re: [RDA-L] Keep your access to RDA after August 31st

2010-08-26 Thread Linda Dausch
I agree completely with the thought below. Additionally, if the creators of RDA hope to have the standard adopted by educators, system developers, researchers, the wider metadata community, database developers, IT staff, library and computer education professors, museums staff, etc., I hope

Re: [RDA-L] Keep your access to RDA after August 31st

2010-08-26 Thread Mike Tribby
charging for it before it's even adopted or implemented is less than friendly or helpful! But it is lean, mean, and a concrete manifestation of the often-invoked advice to run it like a business! Mike Tribby Senior Cataloger Quality Books Inc. The Best of America's Independent Presses

Re: [RDA-L] Keep your access to RDA after August 31st

2010-08-26 Thread Bernhard Eversberg
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Robert L Bothmann wrote: My opinion/suggestion: It would be ideal to allow open access to the RDA rules via rdatoolkit.org throughout the entirety of all three of the U.S. Libraries testing phases. If this cannot be done, we see a possibility to ease the

Re: [RDA-L] Keep your access to RDA after August 31st

2010-08-26 Thread Adam L. Schiff
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010, Bernhard Eversberg wrote: This is a question for Mr. Linker: What would be the position of your company about it? Our database is derived from the 2008 full draft, not the current text. There have been a lot of changes to RDA content since that draft, including numbering

Re: [RDA-L] Keep your access to RDA after August 31st

2010-08-26 Thread Katherine R. Morgan
Linda I agree with you. As a cataloger in a small library I could not put RDA in my budget during this economic difficulties. Katherine Quoting Linda Dausch ldau...@chipublib.org: I agree completely with the thought below. Additionally, if the creators of RDA hope to have the standard

Re: [RDA-L] Consortial purchases

2010-08-26 Thread Nicholas Bennyhoff
Apologies, that last message should not have gone out to the entire list. Nick - Nicholas T. Bennyhoff Technology Development Manager Lewis Clark Library System Edwardsville, IL 62025 (618) 656-3216 ext.106 nicholasbennyh...@lcls.org

[RDA-L] Love the word substitution

2010-08-26 Thread J. McRee Elrod
From the plans for European adoption of RDA RDA Sweden contributed to constituency review of full draft Early adoption is the *objection* Translation into Swedish *emphasis added __ __ J. McRee (Mac) Elrod (m...@slc.bc.ca) {__ | / Special Libraries Cataloguing