Thanks to all who responded. I have decided to make a single 264 1
[Charleston, SC?] : $b Author's name, $c [2013]
As I feel my way along with RDA, I am truly grateful for this discussion
list!
Mary Saunders, Cataloger
Maine State Library
64 State House
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Thanks to all who responded. I have decided to make a single 264 1
[Charleston, SC?] : $b Author's name, $c [2013]
As I feel my way
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Hi Mary
I agree wholeheartedly – ever SO grateful for this list !
And, if I may say so, I think your final decision is SPOT ON!
I believe we are encouraged to SUPPLY a place of publication or probable place
whenever possible….which is what you’ve
Oops, I meant if you are supplying a place, you wouldn’t use a postal
abbreviation.
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It would not be correct to use “SC” in your place of publication. If you
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Per Appendix B.1 state names are included in the “approved” abbreviations. And
the LC-PCC Policy
Mary Saunders said:
I have decided to make a single 264 1 [Charleston, SC?] : $b Author's
name, $c [2013]
This would satisfy your patrons' needs better than the other options.
But a postal code should not be provided in brackets. Correctly it
would by South Carolina, or as a local option,
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Appendix B does not apply to “transcribed elements” (see B.4). The Pubication
Statement is a transcribed element (see
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The information in the publication appears as “Charleston, SC”. Aren’t we
supposed to transcribe it as it appears?
Mary Saunders, Cataloger
Maine State Library
64 State House Station
Augusta, ME 04333-0064
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Per Appendix B.1 state names are included in the “approved
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Appendix B does not apply to “transcribed elements” (see B.4). The
Pubication Statement is a transcribed element (see 2.8.1.4). Also B.4
instructs
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I'm confused as to why rda has an appendix for abbreviations including
geographic locations.. Anyone know when we use these? I assumed we we once
again using them for place of publication? Anyone
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Yes, but the information you have is for the place of manufacture
Dana said:
I feel that in this case it would be very helpful if there was another
example under Rule 2.8.2.6.2 with a state name spelled out
You transcribe in 264$a what is on the item, and more often than not,
the jurisdiction is abbreviated. If supplying in brackets, spell it
out. NEVER
I have a self-published monograph which contains only this publication
information: Made in the USA, Charleston, SC, 07 June 2013.
Do I make a 264 1 [Place of publication not identified] : $b [Publisher
not identified], $c [2013] and a 264 3 Charleston, SC : $b [Manufacturer not
That is certainly one correct possible way to do this. Your other option would
be to take a best guess at the place of publication and then you wouldn't need
the second 264. Two possibilities:
264 _1 [Charleston, South Carolina?] : $b [Publisher not identified], $c [2013]
or
264 _1 [United
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 264 question
That is certainly one correct possible way to do this. Your other option would
be to take a best guess at the place of publication and then you wouldn't need
the second 264. Two possibilities:
264 _1 [Charleston, South Carolina?] : $b
Mary Saunders said:
I have a self-published monograph...
As you say, it is self published. The author is the publisher. So:
264 1 $a[Charleston, South Carolina?] :$bJoe Blow,$c[2013]
Do I make a 264 1 [Place of publication not identified] : $b [Publish=
er not identified], $c
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 264 question
Mary Saunders said:
I have a self-published monograph...
As you say, it is self published. The author is the publisher. So:
264 1 $a[Charleston, South Carolina?] :$bJoe Blow,$c[2013]
Do I make
Adam Schiff posted:
264 _1 [Charleston, South Carolina?] : $b [Publisher not identified], $c [2013]
In this case, the publisher IS identified. It's the authhor.
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I said:
264 _1 [Charleston, South Carolina?] : $b [Publisher not identified], $c
[2013]
In this case, the publisher IS identified. It's the author.
For self published items, Lubetsky would have had us say The Author.
Later we would have entered the author's name with given name(s)
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