Re: [RDA-L] archival cataloging and DACS

2011-04-13 Thread Corey A Harper
Manon, Margaret, Diane, Thank you for the clarifications / corrections to my post. I should have mentioned that I have no first-hand knowledge of the groups in question and that my info may not be complete. Particularly good to know that the call for public comments is still open for

[RDA-L] Fwd: References from one chapter to another in RDA

2011-04-13 Thread Gene Fieg
-- Forwarded message -- From: Gene Fieg gf...@cst.edu Date: Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:29 AM Subject: References from one chapter to another in RDA To: RDA-L rd...@infoserv.nlc-bnc.ca Reading (slogging?) through RDA now. I am in chapter 19. I noticed that for official

Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: References from one chapter to another in RDA

2011-04-13 Thread Harden, Jean
For at least some of this, the Element Set View (which I hadn't explored until yesterday) is a great help. It assembles all the rules relevant to a particular RDA Element together in one place. Sometimes the rules so assembled are contiguous in RDA itself, but sometimes there are reference (and

Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: References from one chapter to another in RDA

2011-04-13 Thread Gene Fieg
But where does it say to use both the official's name (Catholic Church. Pope ... ) and the personal name as access points to an official proclamation, etc. On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Mark Ehlert ehler...@umn.edu wrote: Gene Fieg gf...@cst.edu wrote: Reading (slogging?) through RDA

Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: References from one chapter to another in RDA

2011-04-13 Thread Mark Ehlert
Gene Fieg gf...@cst.edu wrote: But where does it say to use both the official's name (Catholic Church. Pope ...  ) and the personal name as access points to an official proclamation, etc. I couldn't find an explicit instruction on this unless it's buried somewhere--somebody with better eyes

Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: References from one chapter to another in RDA

2011-04-13 Thread Adam L. Schiff
It doesn't say that anywhere, although you are correct that in the examples we carried over the practice of making an added entry for the person holding the office. Basically, it's a judgment on what entities are responsible for a resource, and I think one could argue that while the

Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: References from one chapter to another in RDA

2011-04-13 Thread John Hostage
These corporate body access points for persons holding an office are strange hermaphrodites that are peculiar to the Anglo-American tradition, I think. The idea of using both a corporate heading for the official and a personal name heading for the same person on records for official

Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: References from one chapter to another in RDA

2011-04-13 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Mark Ehlert [ehler...@umn.edu] Sent: April-13-11 4:56 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: References from one

[RDA-L] Fwd: Call for papers The FRBR Family

2011-04-13 Thread hecain
Forwarded with permission. Hal Cain Melbourne, Australia hec...@dml.vic.edu.au - Call for papers: The FRBR Family of Models A special issue of Cataloging Classification Quarterly will be devoted to The FRBR Family of Models. Since 1998 when Functional

Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: References from one chapter to another in RDA

2011-04-13 Thread hecain
However, the find and identify tasks require that the personal name of the holder of the office be an access point for documents of this kind, because these documents are very commonly cited under the writer's name. Indeed I think I could argue a case for considering the names of popes,

Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: References from one chapter to another in RDA

2011-04-13 Thread hecain
Quoting John Hostage host...@law.harvard.edu: These corporate body access points for persons holding an office are strange hermaphrodites that are peculiar to the Anglo-American tradition, I think. The idea of using both a corporate heading for the official and a personal name heading for

[RDA-L] FW: Call for papers The FRBR Family

2011-04-13 Thread Riva Patricia
Call for papers: The FRBR Family of Models A special issue of Cataloging Classification Quarterly will be devoted to The FRBR Family of Models. Since 1998 when Functional Requirements for Bibliographic Records was first published by IFLA, the effort to develop and apply FRBR has been