Hi
How do we handle multi part volume in RDA, in AACR, it would have been like
,1- .
Thanks for sharing
Ms Malarvele Ilangovan
NLB
Singapore
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Talking about periods ...
A colleague just brought the following example to my attention. The
title page shows the following:
WOLLEN. WISSEN. KÖNNEN.
Gestaltung attraktiver Arbeitsplätze
in der Langzeit-, Kurzzeit- und Übergangspflege und Betreuung
English translation:
TO WANT. TO KNOW. TO
Hello everyone
I have been cataloguing a Tamil book that has a contributor whose role is
the project co-ordinator.How do I give relator code or access point to
this work? I am talking about #e tag. As I could not figure out this in
the so called contributor list from RDA, am I allowed to add
I think you could use Project director from the MARC CodeLlist for Relators.
The definition is as follows
Use for a person or organization with primary responsibility for all essential
aspects of a project, or that manages a very large project that demands senior
level responsibility, or that
in RDA there is only a possbility to add punctuation, but not to change it.
It seems to me that since the full-stop is used in ISBD to separate Title
proper from Part/section title, it can be considered punctuation on the source
that separates data to be recorded as one element from data to
I agree that the main instructions in RDA would have you retain the periods,
but there is an alternative in 1.7.1 that allows a cataloging agency to use
other guidelines.
--
John Hostage
Authorities and Database Integrity Librarian //
Harvard
I agree that the main instructions in RDA would have you retain the periods,
but there is an alternative in 1.7.1 that allows a cataloging agency to use
other guidelines.
Thanks, John. Actually, 1.7.1 is a point we are working on right now,
but it seems that I hadn't thought far enough here.
I agree with Ben's interpretation of the instruction, i.e., a period is
separating punctuation and so is omitted, and then other punctuation is
added for clarity; so no need to invoke the 1.7.1 alternative.
Although, technically, the parts of a title proper are considered part of
the Title Proper
Ben,
in RDA there is only a possbility to add punctuation, but not to change it.
It seems to me that since the full-stop is used in ISBD to separate Title proper from Part/section
title, it can be considered punctuation on the source that separates data to be recorded as
one element from
Malar Thomas asked:
How do we handle multi part volume in RDA, in AACR, it would have
been like ,1- .
That's not AACR2; the use of angle brackets is an LC practice others
have adopted. SLC uses blanks and v. in AACR2; blanks and volumes
in RDA. The blanks are a carry over from cards
Malar Thomas asked:
I have been cataloguing a Tamil book that has a contributor whose role is
the project co-ordinator.How do I give relator code...
We would use:
$4pdr Project director
We find the codes more complete than the terms. Perhaps you should
just use the $4 code meaning in $e?
Heidrun posted:
Now, what about the periods in the title proper? According to the German
RAK rules, I would have exchanged the first and second one for a comma,
and the last one for a colon to introduce the other title information.
SLC did the same as you in AACR2, and will do the same in
Heidrun Wiesenmüller wrote:
By the way, I don't like the instruction in 2.3.1.7 (and other similar
ones) one little bit, where it says: Use a full stop to separate the
common title from the title of the part, section, or supplement.
Doesn't RDA claim that it is a content standard, and as such
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But as Deborah
Thomas Brenndorfer wrote:
That does seem to be a weak spot in the current draft Bibframe mapping
for some elements, such as Instance Title:
http://bibframe.org/vocab/Instance.html
where 245$a is mapped, but 245$a $n $p are the three subfields that
make up the title proper.
That's an
My earlier justification for replacing periods with commas is perhaps a bit too
clever.
Though in ISBD, I agree, it's pretty unambiguous that both title and part-title
(or, dependent title) are part of the same ISBD element title proper (they
are sub-elements though ISBD doesn't use that
Thank you! So, since this character is the illustrator then the 600 and
700 are correct.
Sarah
JSC Secretary jscsecret...@rdatoolkit.org 4/30/2013 1:41 PM
Sarah,
The 4th paragraph of RDA 9.0 indicates that the scope of person in RDA
includes fictitious entities, such as literary figures,
As I understand LC policy, the 600 would not be correct and a fictitious
character heading in LCSH would need to be used (or proposed through
SACO).
^^
Adam L. Schiff
Principal Cataloger
University of Washington Libraries
Box 352900
Seattle, WA 98195-2900
Ben,
I like your emphasis on readabiliy very much.
Personally, I'm not much worried that people might mix up punctuation in
the source with punctuation prescribed by ISBD, but readability should
indeed be an issue. And I absolutely agree that Wollen, wissen, können
is much easier to read and
Heidrun said:
I realize that I must sound like some sort of grouch to you, always=20
finding fault with RDA - and, what's more, whining ...
From my point of view, you bring a fresh pair of eyes and wonderful
awareness to cataloguing issues. JSC would have benefited from your
earlier
Judy said:
The 4th paragraph of RDA 9.0 indicates that the scope of *person* in RDA
includes fictitious entities, such as literary figures, legendary figures,
... if the fictitious entity's role is only as subject of the resource,
the RDA instructions do not apply.
I find this exception
As I said yesterday, in my opinion RDA takes a lot of things for
granted, which makes it difficult to apply outside of the Anglo-American
world. Sometimes RDA seems to believe things are universal, when in fact
they are not. The other day I noticed a small detail, which illustrates
this quite
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