Re: [RDA-L] Capitalization of approximately in 300

2013-04-03 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Mark wrote: I've found several issues with capitalization in the RDA examples. See also the Place of Publication transcription with opening preposition (near the end of RDA 2.8.2.3) and statements of function for Distributor's Name (RDA 2.9.4.4). Then, compare to the lack of any

[RDA-L] Cataloging Matters no. 19: Library Catalogs and Information Architecture

2013-04-03 Thread James Weinheimer
Apologies for cross-posting. I would like to announce a new episode of Cataloging Matters: Cataloging Matters no. 19: Library Catalogs and Information Architecture Please share this with anyone who you believe may be interested. -- *James Weinheimer* weinheimer.ji...@gmail.com *First Thus*

Re: [RDA-L] 336 repeated for illustrations?

2013-04-03 Thread Danette Zingsheim
What would be the point of this? And how would it be different from the 300? It doesn't exactly help a patron decide if the item is say a graphic novel or picture book. And if the text for patrons says still image would they know what that means? As a public library with thousands of picture

[RDA-L] Brackets in RDA

2013-04-03 Thread Saunders, Mary
Good morning, I am a new subscriber and I apologize if this issue has been recently discussed. I have noticed that there are some differences in the use of square brackets in RDA and AACR2. I have an item in which the statement of responsibility appears on neither the title page nor

Re: [RDA-L] Brackets in RDA

2013-04-03 Thread Peter Schouten
No you would not. Using square brackets is reserved for information not found anywhere in the resource. This is indeed different from previous practice, but should be more clear to users and new cataloguers. Peter Schouten Ingressus Van: Resource Description

Re: [RDA-L] Brackets in RDA

2013-04-03 Thread Joan Wang
A derived question: There is a rule in AACR2: If no statement of responsibility appears prominently in the item, neither construct one nor extract one from the content of the item. Give the relevant information in a note. Is there a parallel rule in RDA? Thank you. Joan Wang Illinois Heartland

Re: [RDA-L] Brackets in RDA

2013-04-03 Thread Joan Wang
I think that the answer should be No. The reason is that RDA broadens sources of information for statement of responsibility. Sorry for my bothering :) Thanks, Joan Wang On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Joan Wang jw...@illinoisheartland.orgwrote: A derived question: There is a rule in

[RDA-L] Relationships and comic books/graphic novels

2013-04-03 Thread Benjamin A Abrahamse
Does anyone happen to know if there is work being done to expand the RDA relationship vocabulary to account for specific roles associated with the illustration of comic books and graphic novels? Under the current RDA relators, it would seem the following roles (which are considered discrete

Re: [RDA-L] Brackets in RDA

2013-04-03 Thread Cary Isley
Kevin Roe wrote: RDA 2.2.4 gives us latitude to take those statements from any source, including reference sources, published descriptions of the work, containers or accompanying material. This essentially gives us the ability to construct statements of responsibility in bib records, as long as

Re: [RDA-L] Brackets in RDA

2013-04-03 Thread Joan Wang
Add some information. If following LCPS, this information should be bracketed. LC practice/PCC practice: Use square brackets if information taken from a source outside a resource itself is supplied in any of the elements listed. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Wed, Apr 3,

Re: [RDA-L] 336 repeated for illustrations?

2013-04-03 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Danette Xingsheim posted What would be the point of this? And how would it be different from the 300? The point of added content terms text and still image for an item with extensive illustrations? Well you may ask. I think the whole replacement of GMDs with media terms to be a mistake.

Re: [RDA-L] Brackets in RDA

2013-04-03 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Mary Saunders posted: I have noticed that there are some differences in the use of square brac= kets in RDA and AACR2. In AACR2, you used brackets for information not on the prime source. In RDA you only use brackets if the information is from outside the resource. In AACR2, you used one

Re: [RDA-L] Relationships and comic books/graphic novels

2013-04-03 Thread Robert Maxwell
In my RDA cataloging of graphic novels and comic books I've been using illustrator for some of these (penciller, inker, cover artist) but I use calligrapher for letterers and colorist for colorists. Remember RDA 18.5.1.3 says record one or more appropriate terms from the list in Appendix I but

Re: [RDA-L] Brackets in RDA

2013-04-03 Thread Saunders, Mary
Thank you Mac, Peter, and others for your good explanations. I am gaining a better understanding of RDA, one rule at a time. Mary Saunders, Cataloger Maine State Library 64 State House Station Augusta, ME 04333-0064

[RDA-L] Display of RDA media terms

2013-04-03 Thread J. McRee Elrod
The MRI has been revised to read: 1.1C. Media terms 1.1C1. choose at least one term from each of the two lists below. Enclose the terms in square brackets. Separate terms from different lists with a space semicolon space. Separate two terms from the same list with a comma space. Display media

Re: [RDA-L] dimension of discs and end punctuations of 264 field

2013-04-03 Thread Pam Withrow
The examples in the RDA Toolkit measure disc dimensions in centimeters rather than inches (as in AACR2). Is this the new standard or cataloger's preference? *Pamela Withrow, MLIS* Cataloger Perma-Bound 217-291-1144 On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Joan Wang jw...@illinoisheartland.orgwrote: I

Re: [RDA-L] Relationships and comic books/graphic novels

2013-04-03 Thread Bonnie Dede
Neil, Another response re graphic novels and comic books. Bonnie On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Robert Maxwell robert_maxw...@byu.eduwrote: In my RDA cataloging of graphic novels and comic books I’ve been using “illustrator” for some of these (penciller, inker, cover artist) but I use

Re: [RDA-L] dimension of discs and end punctuations of 264 field

2013-04-03 Thread McDonald, Stephen
From RDA 3.5.1.3 Recording Dimensions: - Unless instructed otherwise, record dimensions in centimetres to the next whole centimetre up, using the metric symbol cm (e.g., if the height measures 17.2 centimetres, record 18 cm Alternative: Record dimensions in the system of measure

Re: [RDA-L] dimension of discs and end punctuations of 264 field

2013-04-03 Thread Pam Withrow
Thank you Joan and Steve. *Pamela Withrow, MLIS* Cataloger Perma-Bound 217-291-1144 On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 2:18 PM, McDonald, Stephen steve.mcdon...@tufts.eduwrote: From RDA 3.5.1.3 Recording Dimensions: - Unless instructed otherwise, record dimensions in centimetres

Re: [RDA-L] Relationships and comic books/graphic novels

2013-04-03 Thread Diane Hillmann
Bonnie Bob: This is a perfect use case for the distributed extension of RDA vocabularies, rather than continuing to wait for a traditional blessed-from-on-high solution. If either of you are interested in prototyping any of this, take a look at my slides 11-13 here:

[RDA-L] order in 245 when title is more than one language, with bits in each language interspersed

2013-04-03 Thread Harden, Jean
How should this 245 be ordered? The title page of the item says this: Trio in G-Dur, Trio in G major, für Violine, Violoncello und Klavier, for violin, cello and piano, B. 446 This particular example is complicated by being one of the sorts of music titles that is made up of a type word, key,

Re: [RDA-L] order in 245 when title is more than one language,

2013-04-03 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Jean Harden posted: Trio in G-Dur, Trio in G major, für Violine, Violoncello und Klavier, for violin, cello and piano, B. 446 I would transcribe as: 245 10 $aTrio in G-Dur =$bTrio in G major : für Violine, Violoncello und Klavier = for violin, cello and piano, B. 446 /$c rather than: