Re: linking word element needed

2007-07-02 Thread J. McRee Elrod
But it would perpetuate one of the nastiest MARC21 features: the punctuation at the field or subfield end. Why not include it in $i? Mac

Re: linking word element needed

2007-07-01 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Johnathan Rockind said: This seems like a perfectly reasonable and good solution to me, On Jun 29, 2007, at 4:11 PM, Adam L. Schiff wrote: I think from our discussion on this matter is that RDA needs another element to record what I will call the linking word or term in the title. How does

Re: linking word element needed

2007-07-01 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
It does not differ, it is the same semantic content. Surely, RDA and MARC need to be compatible. Just as both need to be compatible with ISBD, if the ISBD elements are still important. And just as both need to be compatible with FRBR, if the FRBR model is important. (I realize there is some

Re: linking word element needed

2007-06-30 Thread Hal Cain
Quoting James Agenbroad [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is there a reason I don't see why we need to distinguish between alternative titles and parallel titles? A parallel title is of equivalent weight to the title proper, but distinct from it. Generally it's provided when the document is addressed

Re: linking word element needed

2007-06-30 Thread Hal Cain
Quoting Robert Maxwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes, there is a difference. Alternative titles and parallel titles aren't worded the same way. There remains the problem of what to do with that pesky little or. And equivalents in other languages; in some languages, more than one (Latin has vel or

Re: linking word element needed

2007-06-30 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
This seems like a perfectly reasonable and good solution to me, expressed clearly and well. I'm confused why the thread continues after Adam's contribution, ignoring it, and discussing instead why various other solutions are all unsatisfactory? Jonathan On Jun 29, 2007, at 4:11 PM, Adam L.

Re: linking word element needed

2007-06-30 Thread Karen Coyle
This is, at least as presented, a matter of markup. I'm not sure that markup alone, or this markup in particular, solves the problem that worries me the most, which is trying to get both display and access out of one single set of data elements. I'm still unclear as to what we are trying to

linking word element needed

2007-06-29 Thread Adam L. Schiff
I think from our discussion on this matter is that RDA needs another element to record what I will call the linking word or term in the title. To have title proper and alternative title elements is not enough, because the linking word or and its equivalents in other languages need to be

Re: linking word element needed

2007-06-29 Thread Myers, John F.
I am beginning to suspect that the difficulties arising for the treatment of the conjunction preceding an alternative title may be why ISBD is formulated to include alternative titles in the title proper. I am not against the JSC's decision to create the new element for the alternative title.

Re: linking word element needed

2007-06-29 Thread James Agenbroad
Friday, June 29, 2007 At present AACRE defines: 1. Parallel title. The title proper in another language and/or script. and 2. Alternative title. The second part of a title proper that consists of two parts, each part of which is a title; the parts are joined by or or its equivalent in

Re: linking word element needed

2007-06-29 Thread Robert Maxwell
/ Resource Description and Access [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Agenbroad Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 4:37 PM To: RDA-L@INFOSERV.NLC-BNC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] linking word element needed Friday, June 29, 2007 At present AACRE defines: 1. Parallel title. The title proper