RE: The Amish

2005-01-02 Thread Avi Schick
Professor Levinson I'm somewhat confused by your statement that even if the article is off by 50% with regard to the actual number of young women who are raped or otherwise abused by their fathers and, especially, brothers, it nevertheless states a powerful claim. Any abuse of the sort

Re: The Amish

2005-01-02 Thread Paul Finkelman
I don't want to answer Sandy, but my sense of the constitutional issue is this: Yoder was in part a result of C.J. Burger's assertions that the Amish were a quaint, quite, productive historical artifact that had survived into the 20th century and they needed to be left alone so they could

RE: The Amish

2005-01-02 Thread Sanford Levinson
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Avi Schick Avi Shick raises the following questions: I'm somewhat confused by your statement that even if the article is off by 50% with regard to the actual number of young women who are raped or

Re: The Amish

2005-01-02 Thread JMHACLJ
I thought about the possibility that the numbers were over/under reported as I listened to reports this last week on the death toll from the tsunamis following the Christmas evening earthquake. Sometime around Monday, I started to hear stories that as many as 1/3 of those killed were children. A

RE: The Amish

2005-01-02 Thread Avi Schick
Professor Levinson Thank you for your clarifications.I still don't see the constitutional dimension that is so clearly visible to you and Professor Finkelman. I guess one way to get at the question is whether you think that the result in Yoder should have been different because of the

Re: The Amish

2005-01-02 Thread Paul Finkelman
Again, I speak for me, not Sandy. I think that the Court did not find Kiryas Joel very attractive litigants and their request -- for state funds for their own school district -- seemed such an obvious violation of the establishment clause, while the Amish were just asking to be exempt from the

Re: The Amish

2005-01-02 Thread Steven Jamar
I doubt Yoder comes out the same today -- even with this Court. The advent of home schooling to state-set standards changes things substantially, I think. We now generally accept that the state may set certain standards for education up to a certain age -- though we do allow drop-outs -- and

RE: The Amish

2005-01-02 Thread Sanford Levinson
Title: RE: The Amish Avi Shick writes: I guess one way to get at the question is whether you think that the result in Yoder should have been different because of theconduct described in the Legal Affairs article? _ I have always found the