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Commandments "Basis of Our Laws" Position
I think the current
use of the claim that our laws are based on the Ten Commandments, or at least
the way I understand this phrase in its strongest sense, is that the Ten
Commandmen
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In response to Ed's and Prof Lipkin's post,
just a quick thought or two.
I think what is traditionally meant by the
"basis of our laws" position is the following:
1. The Ten Commandments is a stark (if
not the first surviving) demonstration that law comes from "outside"
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MikeSchuttwrites:
1. The Ten Commandments is a stark (if
not the first surviving) demonstration that law comes from "outside" humankind--
that is, that lawis not merely a human artifact.
If anything
is a theological proposition (that should not be taught by the state) it is
I think the current
use of the claim that our laws are based on the Ten Commandments, or at least
the way I understand this phrase in its strongest sense, is that the Ten
Commandments are our law's foundation in two senses:(1) Our lawsare
derived historically, conceptually, and so
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Of
course it would follow, to Christians and Jews alike, that the entire Torah
comes from outside humankind. The uniqueness of the Ten Commandments is
that it is their "giving" is conveyed bya narrative demonstration of that
fact, because,in the Scripture passage, God
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Mike Schutt wrote:
In response to Ed's and Prof
Lipkin's post, just a quick thought or two.
I think what is traditionally
meant by the "basis of our laws" position is the following:
1. The Ten Commandments is a
stark (if not the first surviving)
law.
sandy
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Commandments Basis of Our Laws Position
Mike Schutt wrote:
In response to Ed's and Prof Lipkin's post, just a quick thought or two.
I think what is traditionally meant by the basis of our laws position is
the following:
1. The Ten Commandments is a stark (if not the first surviving)
demonstration
: Ten Commandments Basis of Our Laws Position
Sandy: There is NO reason to believe that Roman law was
affected by the
Ten C. Nor is there much evidence that American law was
affected by the
10-C; except perhaps to reject portions of it. The First
Amendment is a
clear rejection of 10-C
Francis J. Beckwith wrote:
Ed, are you suggesting that believing the 10 commandments are from God is
irrational? If so, not only should the 10 commandments be banned from public
places, we should be telling our young people that its divine source is
suspect and to believe that way shows a lack of
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I'm sorry, Ed, I
must not have been clear. I was addressing your question, which I thought
was sincere, about what people mean when they say that "our laws are based on
the Ten Commandments."
When I said "the
fact that," I was asserting thatthe narrative description in
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Subject: Ten Commandments
Basis of Our Laws Position
In
response to Ed's and Prof Lipkin's post, just a quick thought or two.
I think
what is traditionally meant by the basis of our laws position is
the following:
1.
The Ten Commandments is a stark
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"Basis of Our Laws" Position
In response to
Ed's and Prof Lipkin's post, just a quick thou
Dear Sandy: The idea of the state IS a theological proposition, friend. God
bless you. JL
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When Mike writes that The Ten Commandments is a stark (if not the
first surviving) demonstration that law comes from outside
humankind-- that is, that law is not merely a human artifact, he is
expressing a position with significant sectarian implications. For
traditional Jews, the entire Torah
The Decalogue has certainly provided religious and
moral support for laws against murder, theft, fraud, and perjury (though such
laws probably would have existed in any event). It may also have had other substantial
indirect effects on our law. For example, the command to honor the
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