[Repeater-Builder] Antenna Hardware

2008-11-02 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Whenever I install a repeater antenna or station antenna, I strive to use good hardware. Preferably stainless steel or hot-dip galvanized. Every time I try to purchase locally, I can never find the same size I used previously. Does anyone have a GOOD source for stainless and hot-dipped U-Bolts

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Hardware

2008-11-02 Thread Mike Mullarkey
Tessco, Talley Hutton. My preference would be Talley since there prices seem to a bit less than Tessco, however Tessco will most likely have what you need in stock. There is a reason they are a bit more than the others. When you carry that many lines it costs a bit to keep that inventory in

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Hardware

2008-11-02 Thread Eric Lemmon
Chuck, I buy all of my antenna-mounting hardware from either Tessco or McMaster-Carr, and I'm seldom disappointed. What, exactly, do you want? 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey Sent:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Hardware

2008-11-02 Thread Chuck Kelsey
For this particular application I was looking for: Stainless u-bolt Pipe size 1.25 (1.75 OD) 5/16 thread size Minimum 3.25 length I just looked at Tessco and didn't find any stainless. There were some hot-dipped, but haven't checked sizes yet. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message -

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HTX-202 RUBBER DUCK WANTED.

2008-11-02 Thread Scott Zimmerman
I am guessing he is probably trying to restore one to OEM condition Great gift idea for the elmer that got you started in amateur radio!! Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 - Original Message - From: Adam Vazquez Kb2Jpd To:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Hardware

2008-11-02 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Looks like they all have varying degrees of galvanized u-bolts, but didn't see any stainless. I'll keep them in mind for galvanized, but would really like to find a hardware supplier that has a broad range of these items. Maybe I'm dreaming. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Hardware

2008-11-02 Thread Eric Lemmon
Chuck, The McMaster-Carr item 29605T4 is pretty close to what you want, and is 316 stainless. If you need something with a deeper throat, consider making your own U-bolt with stainless steel rod bent to shape, with the ends threaded. I do not recommend using threaded rod, also known as all

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Hardware

2008-11-02 Thread Chuck Kelsey
The application is a small side-arm bracket. I made it from aluminum square tubing. It got removed from the tower and I needed U-bolts for different project so I borrowed them. Now I can't find that size again. It's pretty obvious that I'll have to settle for a different u-bolt size and

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Hardware

2008-11-02 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Dunno about stainless steel U-Bolts, but our local Ace Hardware carries a large variety of 'strange' stuff. And, picking up the phone will save you time and money. 73, WM4B From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey Sent: Sunday,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Hardware

2008-11-02 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Just for grins, I checked the Ace website. They had one u-bolt listed, and it just happened to be stainless. They call it U-Bolt Wire Rope Clip which is a u-bolt guy wire clamp. Price - $80.91 ea. What can I say Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) To:

[Repeater-Builder] Modifications for An Micor Repeater VHf/Uhf

2008-11-02 Thread gervais fillion
Hi all i just pick up an big cabinet Micor repeater used on the Pager network. it was functionning well,it is receiveing in UHF and her tx is in the 141 mhz so applicable for ham use. i have here an TLD8272B which is suppose to be an Receiver unit for it ??? what other parts i would need to

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Modifications for An Micor Repeater VHf/Uhf

2008-11-02 Thread Eric Lemmon
Gervais, The TLD8272B receiver board is perfect for Amateur use, since it is designed to operate in the 142-150.8 MHz band. However, before the Micor specialists on this list can offer suggestions, we need to know the part numbers stamped on the modules in the station, as well as the model

[Repeater-Builder] GE MLS ham conversion?

2008-11-02 Thread Tom
I have a UHF GE MLS1 (eeprom one) that I would like to convert to the ham frequencies. Has anyone tried this? Electrically, it looks fairly straightforward. Has anyone tried out of band hacks for the programmer or is that necessary? Any information would be appreciated. Tom WB6DGN

[Repeater-Builder] Tower Frame antenna mounts

2008-11-02 Thread georgiaskywarn
Please take a look at this page; http://www.tessco.com/products/displayHierarchySkus.do?groupId=341subgroupId=53showFilterItems=trueeventGroup=4eventPage=1 Has anyone used this type of mount with 2 db antennas on either end? (one db224 and db420) . The tower would be one of the large free

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Hardware

2008-11-02 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Did you check on-line or call the store? Our store carries a lot more stuff than is available on-line. WM4B From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 12:54 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Modifications for An Micor Repeater VHf/Uhf

2008-11-02 Thread gervais fillion
Éric well you gave me some indications there,thanks. i will check my unit, i can see 6 or 8 cards on her too, let me check i will be back. thanks again. i may take some pictures too if needed 73/s gervais,Ve2ckn

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Hardware

2008-11-02 Thread Paul Holm
I don't think you are, Chuck. Or else we're having the same dream weird. I've never been satisfied with any U-bolt selection I've ever seen either. And a lot of the time, they don't come with saddle clamps either; just a flat plate which is not usually any good for mast/tubing applications.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Modifications for An Micor Repeater VHf/Uhf

2008-11-02 Thread gervais fillion
Well Éric,read this : Front Card:Simo Control TRN5379BGuard Tone Decoder TLN2376APRF1 Control Module TLN5293APRTSI MODULE TRN4853APRStation Control Module TRN4854BPRLine Driver TRN4859A her RX is 414.4265Her TX is 141.510###On the UPPER Back of the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Hardware

2008-11-02 Thread Dave Gomberg
At 05:50 11/2/2008, Chuck Kelsey wrote: Does anyone have a GOOD source for stainless U-Bolts http://www.boltdepot.com/product.aspx?cc=46cs=191cm=6cd=48 Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Hardware

2008-11-02 Thread Dave Gomberg
At 05:50 11/2/2008, Chuck Kelsey wrote: Does anyone have a GOOD source for stainless U-Bolts http://www.boltdepot.com/product.aspx?cc=46cs=191cm=6cd=48 Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com

[Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-02 Thread Camilo So
Hi sorry for out of topic question, because most of the friend I have ask no one can give an answer or advice that is why I am turning to this group for help and advice, regarding.The pair of repeater frequency that I applied for, First I went to the FRC (Florida Repeater Council) website, and

[Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-02 Thread lenaw12
The company Line (Federal Candy Company) is that your coordinated repeater trumps his uncoordinated repeater in a claim of interference. The difficulty here seems that you didn't transmit on the input, you just listened on the output, when you were searching for frequencies. The repeater

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Hardware

2008-11-02 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Thank you. I remember running across this company quite some time back but couldn't remember the name. They've got u-bolts, but not a big selection. I'll bookmark it anyway. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Dave Gomberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com;

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-02 Thread Mike Mullarkey
Camilo, The other guy that let his coordination expire is out of luck and needs to vacate the channel. Being a past chairman of the ORRC Oregon Region Relay Council. If the guy that has had the channel and not followed the buy laws of the FRC and filed update paperwork. Try to work with the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-02 Thread MCH
If he is uncooperative, and uncoordinated, just call the FCC. That's about all you can do. You might mention this option to him and that may make him more receptive to acceptable solutions. Joe M. Camilo So wrote: Hi sorry for out of topic question, because most of the friend I have ask no

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-02 Thread Camilo So
Hi Mike, My problem is I can not use my repeater because I have PL , His don't have a PL every time I key up I am bringing up two repeater, its like I was being jams, He have the advantage, when he key up he only bring his up, because I have PL. and the worse problem is I am given two mouth to

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-02 Thread Mike Mullarkey
Camilo, I forgot to mention that the FRC is suppose to mediate these issues for you. It sounds like that they are running the good old boys network down there and in these days that doesn't always work. They have an interest to mediate this since they will be drug though the coals if you do in

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-02 Thread MCH
The NFCC will not get involved with internal issues such as this. Joe M. Mike Mullarkey wrote: Camilo, The other guy that let his coordination expire is out of luck and needs to vacate the channel. Being a past chairman of the ORRC Oregon Region Relay Council. If the guy that has

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-02 Thread Mike Mullarkey
Camilo, We really should not clog the list with this since this is a repeater builders list. If you want to contact me off the list I would be more than happy in assisting you with any recommendations I may help with. Mike _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-02 Thread Camilo So
Thank you much Mike. Camilo - Original Message - From: Mike Mullarkey To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 5:41 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination Camilo, We really should not clog the list with this since

[Repeater-Builder] Moto battery charger light question

2008-11-02 Thread Dennis Wade
On the rapid gang charger, NTN 4668A for the HT600, MT1000 and others, what does it mean when one of the slots shows a steady yellow/red light together (after the start sequence) when inserting a battery to charge. The same battery in all 5 other slots shows the expected yellow/red/green sequence

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-02 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Have the coordinator get you a different channel. Don't mess with the sharing idea. -- Original Message -- Received: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 01:50:27 PM PST From: Camilo So [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination Hi sorry

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-02 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Sorry Mike, I disagree. As you know,I spent about 10 years on the ORRC myself, several of those as the database manager. The other repeater was there first. The coordination council either (1) did not have an accurate database and/or (2) did not research it throughly. Even if the first repeater's

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-02 Thread Kris Kirby
On Sun, 2 Nov 2008, lenaw12 wrote: The company Line (Federal Candy Company) is that your coordinated repeater trumps his uncoordinated repeater in a claim of interference. This sounds as though the coordinating entity didn't do it's homework. Either way, the coordinating entity HAS issued

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-02 Thread Daron Wilson
If the other guy is smart he'll call the FCC first, as he was on the channel first. Coordination is not required, and the coordiation group should have suspected he was still there if the coordination had expired. LOTS off coordinations expire but the repeaters stay on the air. First,

RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE MLS ham conversion?

2008-11-02 Thread Eric Vincent
Hi Tom, You can use GE MLS in Ham band with no troubles. You need the original GE programmer to do this. It’s necessary to retune the RX and TX VCO near to 4.5 Volts. Looks for a flashing LED in front of radio this indicate an unlocked VCO. Good luck 73’ Eric _ De :

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-02 Thread Mike Mullarkey
HI John, Assuming that there area is like Denver and Portland that may be hard. If there is other channels available take one and if you have a repeater that used crystals make the FRC buck up and pay for the elements. Mike _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-02 Thread Mike Mullarkey
HI John, I agree with to a point but the FCC will first ask the coordinating group witch repeater is coordinated. That is exactly what Bin would do and has done so in Oregon and Washington. If there is another channel available take it. Mike _ From:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Hardware

2008-11-02 Thread rb_n3dab
Chuch - You might try a Marine (boat) supply source up your way. Just a thought. -- Doug N3DAB/WPRX486/WPJL709 Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = Just for grins, I checked the Ace website. They had one u-bolt listed, and it just happened to be stainless. They call

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-02 Thread MCH
If he calls the FCC, he will find he is SOL. Coordination is not required, but when one repeater is coordinated, and the other is not, the uncoordinated one must resolve the problem. That's in Part 97. It doesn't matter who was there first. Part 97 makes no reference to seniority. FRC's rules

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-02 Thread MCH
And I will emphasize my previous point that you should call them ONLY after all other resolutions have been tried. But, if there is no acceptable alternative, you have the high road on the complaint. Joe M. Daron Wilson wrote: If the other guy is smart he'll call the FCC first, as he was on

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna Hardware

2008-11-02 Thread Laryn Lohman
Chuck try Tennadyne. Their website doesn't show much, but they showed up at a local hamfest 3 weeks ago with a bunch of hardware on their table. It might be worth a call. Tennadyne 616.868.9907. I have no interest in the company... Laryn K8TVZ

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-02 Thread Camilo So
First of all I want to apologize to the Moderator for bringing up a of topic on this group, most of all thank you to every one that reply specially Joe M. (MCH) this is the same shortcut my XYL is working at (Miami Children Hospital). Again thanks to all. 73 W4CSO Camilo - Original

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-02 Thread wd8chl
lenaw12 wrote: The company Line (Federal Candy Company) is that your coordinated repeater trumps his uncoordinated repeater in a claim of interference. The difficulty here seems that you didn't transmit on the input, you just listened on the output, when you were searching for frequencies.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-02 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Hi Mike! I'm in partial agreement with you also, but there is something wrong with a coordination council that coordinates a repeater on a freq that they knew already had a repeater on it - even if it is expired. -- Original Message -- Received: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 05:54:47 PM PST From:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-02 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Coordination is intended to avoid conflict. The coordination council coordinated another system where they knew a repeater had been operating without confirming it was no longer operational. -- Original Message -- Received: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 06:53:38 PM PST From: MCH [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-02 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Daron - In a perfect world you would be correct. But unforunately amateur radio coordination is far from perfect. Regarding some of the systems that the ORRC believe are uncoordinated which I am affilated, that is because they do not recognize the 2 other coordinating bodies in Oregon. That