Re: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go???

2009-07-13 Thread NORM KNAPP
@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun Jul 12 11:01:30 2009 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go??? Norm, The tuning rods on the TX pair of cavities will be at different heights than those on the RX pair

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go???

2009-07-13 Thread Eric Lemmon
: Monday, July 13, 2009 11:09 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go??? Hi Eric Sorry to bother you, but the link for the harness drawings didn't work. Can you e-mail to me or can I not find this info on the repeater

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go???

2009-07-13 Thread Chuck Kelsey
on duplexers... How low should they go??? Norm, That's really odd- the link works fine from both home and work computers. Nevertheless, I have sent you the file directly. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

Re: [possible spam] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go???

2009-07-13 Thread NORM KNAPP
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon Jul 13 21:21:45 2009 Subject: [possible spam] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go??? Norm, That's really odd- the link works fine from both home and work computers. Nevertheless, I have sent you the file directly. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go???

2009-07-12 Thread Joe
I agree with Eric. Unfortunately, new repeater owners sometimes can't resist tweaking the last transmit can for maximum power output. If it is a BP/BR can, there goes your receiver isolation. 73, Joe, K1ike Eric Lemmon wrote: Norm, If the Q202-G duplexer is tuned exactly to spec, you

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go???

2009-07-12 Thread Jeff DePolo
- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of AJ Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 10:00 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go??? In my instance here... Factory

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go???

2009-07-12 Thread NORM KNAPP
-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go??? I agree with Eric. Unfortunately, new repeater owners sometimes can't resist tweaking the last transmit can for maximum power output. If it is a BP/BR can, there goes your receiver isolation. 73, Joe, K1ike Eric Lemmon wrote: Norm

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go???

2009-07-12 Thread Eric Lemmon
:51 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go??? With a preamp, if you're only getting -106 dBm sensitivity, something is wrong. If memory serves, the spec for 12 dB SINAD without the preamp for a highband Mastr II is 0.35

Re: [possible spam] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go???

2009-07-12 Thread NORM KNAPP
@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun Jul 12 09:50:54 2009 Subject: [possible spam] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go??? With a preamp, if you're only getting -106 dBm sensitivity

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go???

2009-07-12 Thread NORM KNAPP
@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jeff DePolo Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 7:51 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go??? With a preamp

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go???

2009-07-12 Thread Eric Lemmon
- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of NORM KNAPP Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 8:46 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go??? Ok Eric, You just brought up something

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go???

2009-07-12 Thread NORM KNAPP
- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun Jul 12 11:01:30 2009 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go??? Norm, The tuning rods on the TX pair

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go???

2009-07-12 Thread Eric Lemmon
: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go??? Ok, It is not the rod lenght sticking up, it is the set screws and adjustment nuts (bolts?) That are different. One side has 2 on each can and the other side has 3 on each can. The RG-142 jumpers are pretty short. I really

[Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go???

2009-07-11 Thread NORM KNAPP
I was checking the tuning on my duplexers for the 147.225 repeater after noticing some desense on with the service monitor. I had something like 99 watts going into the duplexers (sinclair Q-202g) and about 85 coming out. I thought, WOW! This cannot be right. Sure enough they were aparently

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go???

2009-07-11 Thread AJ
In my instance here... Factory preamp puts you around -106 dBm sensitivity which at 44 dBm tx works out to needing about 91 dB of isolation at my 600 KHz split... You, however, have 50 dBm so you're looking at closer to 96 dB of isolation to sit at theorhetical zero desense. I'm sure someone on

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go???

2009-07-11 Thread Eric Lemmon
-Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of NORM KNAPP Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 6:46 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go??? I was checking the tuning

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go???

2009-07-11 Thread NORM KNAPP
-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat Jul 11 21:17:55 2009 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go??? Norm, If the Q202-G duplexer is tuned exactly to spec

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go???

2009-07-11 Thread Bill Smith
The factory preamp was never meant to be used in the repeater configuration. It was primarily for mobiles. I was checking the tuning on my duplexers for the 147.225 repeater after noticing some desense on with the service monitor. I had something like 99 watts going into the duplexers

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go???

2009-07-11 Thread Chuck Kelsey
PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go??? The factory preamp was never meant to be used in the repeater configuration. It was primarily for mobiles.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Notch on duplexers... How low should they go???

2009-07-11 Thread MCH
That's odd. You could order a repeater with it installed. Joe M. Bill Smith wrote: The factory preamp was never meant to be used in the repeater configuration. It was primarily for mobiles.