Re: [Repeater-Builder] ACSSB

2009-11-13 Thread JOHN MACKEY
This whole thread about ACSSB legality reminds me of read it again regarding TV channel 7 digital conversions of a few months ago. -- Original Message -- Received: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:47:54 AM PST From: wd8chl wd8...@gmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater

Re: [Repeater-Builder] ACSSB

2009-11-13 Thread Robert Pease
: [Repeater-Builder] ACSSB Could you please provide a rule number to back this up? Linear Modulation and ACSSB share 4K00J3E as the emission designator. On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 5:34 AM, n0fpe n0...@cox.net wrote: One thing to remember. Amatuers are NOT authorized to use ACSSB above 30mhz. Please

RE: [Repeater-Builder] ACSSB

2009-11-13 Thread Gary Schafer
@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] ACSSB Interesting thing about part 97. It is written differently than any other part of the rules. In most of the rules they tell you what you can do and if it isn't specifically spelled out then you can't do it. In part 97 it is the other way

Re: [Repeater-Builder] ACSSB

2009-11-12 Thread Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis
wonder why the fcc does not allow acssb above 30 mhz on the ham bands? seems to me they would want to promote more efficient modes through all the ham bands. another interesting thing would be to see 2 meter repeaters go to 2 or 3 mhz splits and employ some form of efficient modulation mode

Re: [Repeater-Builder] ACSSB

2009-11-12 Thread wd8chl
Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis wrote: wonder why the fcc does not allow acssb above 30 mhz on the ham bands? seems to me they would want to promote more efficient modes through all the ham bands. another interesting thing would be to see 2 meter repeaters go to 2 or 3 mhz splits and employ

Re: [Repeater-Builder] ACSSB

2009-11-12 Thread wd8chl
n0fpe wrote: One thing to remember. Amatuers are NOT authorized to use ACSSB above 30mhz. Please check part 97 for the exact modes we are able to use. heck if we were there would be tons of ACSSB repeaters already modified into the ham band. I don't believe that comment on legality. But no,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] ACSSB

2009-11-12 Thread Paul Plack
I find nothing in Part 97 which would preclude ACSSB, as it appears to meet the definition of phone, but I do recall some debate at the time on whether the audio frequency inversion scheme/pilot tone was a form of scrambling/encryption, which would have made it illegal on the ham bands. The

Re: [Repeater-Builder] ACSSB

2009-11-12 Thread STeve Andre'
On Thursday 12 November 2009 07:34:08 n0fpe wrote: One thing to remember. Amatuers are NOT authorized to use ACSSB above 30mhz. Please check part 97 for the exact modes we are able to use. heck if we were there would be tons of ACSSB repeaters already modified into the ham band. No, thats

Re: [Repeater-Builder] ACSSB

2009-11-12 Thread no6b
At 11/12/2009 07:47, you wrote: n0fpe wrote: One thing to remember. Amatuers are NOT authorized to use ACSSB above 30mhz. Please check part 97 for the exact modes we are able to use. heck if we were there would be tons of ACSSB repeaters already modified into the ham band. I don't believe

Re: [Repeater-Builder] ACSSB

2009-11-12 Thread DCFluX
Could you please provide a rule number to back this up? Linear Modulation and ACSSB share 4K00J3E as the emission designator. On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 5:34 AM, n0fpe n0...@cox.net wrote: One thing to remember. Amatuers are NOT authorized to use ACSSB above 30mhz. Please check part 97 for the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] acssb - how does it work and is it possible for the hobbyist to scratch build

2009-11-11 Thread Doug Bade
The demise of ACSSB in our area was the overall range was limited to poor sensitivity relative to a similarly situated uhf repeater.. Typical sensitivity of the mobiles was .4-.5~.6uv or so compared to sub .2uv on uhf and vhf fm mobiles that were readily available.. Sound quality did not

Re: [Repeater-Builder] acssb - how does it work and is it possible for the hobbyist to scratch build

2009-11-11 Thread DCFluX
I was playing with the ideas of making adapters, but it is supprisingly difficult to throw audio exactly 90 degrees out of phase over a broad frequency range. Anyway it might be practical to adopt the pilot tone to an HF radio. I'd transmit a 100Hz pilot tone, or something that would go through