Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tait UHF Standby Repeater D-Band

2009-10-28 Thread Marcus
Also i am running the system up on 465.61244 RX and 470.79996 TX and the Transmiter i am running is a Tait T856-24 with a T341 Tx Monitor duplexor T345 Receiver T343 Receiver Monitor + a text panel Marcus Gareth Bennett wrote: Hi Marcus, These come in all shapes and sizes, D band cavities

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tait UHF Standby Repeater D-Band

2009-10-28 Thread Gareth Bennett
Marcus, Do you realise that the Tait repeater that you have purchased has 50 KHz channel spacing? The T345 RX has a very different IF section compared to a 12.5 or 25 KHz model T345 RX You describe what probably was an ex Transpower radio link (Bearer) for protection signalling. The

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tait UHF Standby Repeater D-Band

2009-10-28 Thread Marcus
yes i do have black faced 300 series i also have a T346-03 Transmitter which is the same colour as the T856-24 Gareth Bennett wrote: Marcus, Do you realise that the Tait repeater that you have purchased has 50 KHz channel spacing? The T345 RX has a very different IF section compared to a

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Voice and digipeater on same antenna

2009-10-28 Thread larynl2
Yep thanx Frank, that's the article I was thinking about... Laryn K8TVZ

[Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread Mike
A couple of weeks ago, our repeater system started to experience interference from a paging system. The repeater is on 146.850 (-600 KHz), with the antenna system about 120 feet up a water tower. The repeater itself is an Advanced Communications System KRP-5000 running 35 watts through a set

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread mwbesemer
There are at least two transmitters at two sites... not likely they're all bad. But... the owner has assured me they're clean and I haven't seen anything hokey on the spectrum analyzer from the repeater site. Mike WM4B On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 2:46 PM, dmur...@verizon.net wrote: Did you look a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread Matt Harker
Sounds like a bad case of mixing products (i.e. 2A-B) where A is frequency A and B is frequency B.  Several years ago, I helped cure a similar problem on 146.820 MHz.  Turned out four transmitters were involved in that fracas and it only took two to start the repeater howling. 152.480 is one

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread mwbesemer
Good question about how the data was getting to both transmitter sites. I've been meaning to ask that question and keep forgetting. I'll report back. Mike WM4B On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Matt Harker wrote: Sounds like a bad case of mixing products (i.e. 2A-B) where A is frequency

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread larynl2
We had a similar problem here years ago, caused by a city fire dispatch transmitter 30 miles away. It had a spur that we could follow around in frequency too. Our repeater is on 2M and their transmitter was on 154.37, if I remember. Their transmitter was the entire cause of the problem; no

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread MCH
Dirty paging TX. Seen that many times. Joe M. Mike wrote: A couple of weeks ago, our repeater system started to experience interference from a paging system. The repeater is on 146.850 (-600 KHz), with the antenna system about 120 feet up a water tower. The repeater itself is an

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread MCH
Mixing products generally don't sweep through the spectrum, as usually both TXs are stable and the mix would be as well. Joe M. Matt Harker wrote: Sounds like a bad case of mixing products (i.e. 2A-B) where A is frequency A and B is frequency B. Several years ago, I helped cure a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kenwood TKR-720

2009-10-28 Thread Gustavo(Pu3gbw)
Ok Richard! First very grateful for the return. But this link only has the scheme electrical her and I need is the User manual or operations manual. Again grateful Gustavo - Pu3gbw From: Richard Fletcher Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 1:23 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kenwood TKR-720

2009-10-28 Thread DCFluX
The TKR-820 Manual should be close enough. http://www.repeater-builder.com/kenwood/pdfs/tkr-820-svc-man-large.pdf On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:43 AM, Gustavo(Pu3gbw) pu3...@hotmail.com wrote: Ok Richard! First very grateful for the return. But this link only has the scheme electrical her and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Anyone want BNC Pigtials One sided 12 to 18

2009-10-28 Thread AA8K73 GMail
Thanks, got my BNC pigtails in good shape today. bbfmrf wrote: Is anyone interested in some one sided BNC pigtails? I have a bunch, (50+) of RG58U BNC Pigtails that were removed from a rack mounted test jig. They range from 12 inches to 18 inches. I hate to just throw them away,

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread Kevin King
I would look at the exciter freq on the uhf paging transmitter. It would help with some info on the paging transmitters. Model and such. -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, October 28,

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Mitrek/MSR200 preamp needed

2009-10-28 Thread Wayne
For anyone that wants to do this I just finished hooking a non factory preamp to the pins where the factory unit plugged in and it did work. I used a plug from the junk box and kept the leads as short as possible with no connectors to eliminate loss. 73 and thanks for all the replies

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread Paul Plack
Mike, If it moves around based on time of day, my first guess is a PA that's gone bad, and has a parasitic that's temperature-related. If you've tracked an individual spur drifting 70 kHz up the band during a single transmission, this is not some (intentional) oscillator drifting, but some

[Repeater-Builder] MSR2000 TRN9689 R1 Audio board schematic needed......

2009-10-28 Thread Wayne
I am in need of the schematic for the TRN 9689 R1 Audio volume and squelch board. Anyone that has a scanned or PDF file, I would appreciate a copy. I have checked the RB web sight and not found it. Thank You Wayne, WA5LUY

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Paul, I'm with ya on your third paragraph. We've worked well together so far, but we have very different techniques and motivations. Right now, my motivation is to make is stop before I go crazy. I'm hearing paging tones in my sleep! I kinda think one of the sites took a

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Ya'll know as much as I do about what the paging equipment is. I'm working with limited knowledge. only what gets passed on to me from the owner. I'll ask about that, as well as the exciter frequencies. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com]

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSR2000 TRN9689 R1 Audio board schematic needed......

2009-10-28 Thread George Henry
Replied direct. - Original Message - From: Wayne wa5...@cablelynx.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 5:26 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MSR2000 TRN9689 R1 Audio board schematic needed.. I am in need of the schematic for the TRN 9689 R1

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread Paul Plack
Mike, the interference is clearly not caused by your own rusty roof, and is both eggregious and easily documented. I know we hate to go there unless it's a last resort, but I'll bet the FCC is almost as tired of non-compliant pager systems as we are. Perhaps that technique would prove

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Strangely enough, I happen to be an O-O (as is the another club member, who sponsors the 145.110 repeater. which is also being interfered with) and have been in touch with our coordinator. He's been very helpful in urging us along and providing us guidance (or reassurance) that we're going about

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread Joe
Hello Mike. The first clue is that the signal is moving up and down the 2 meter band. This would tell me that something not frequency controlled is causing the interference. Not frequency controlled would mean that the transmitter is not crystal or GPS locked to a specific frequency. Now,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread MCH
I have to wonder how he can say his stuff is clean when this just started a couple weeks ago. Did he perform a PM check within the last two weeks? Unlikely. Stuff can go south in a minute, and seldom just before you check it. Joe M. Paul Plack wrote: Mike, If it moves around based on

RE: [Repeater-Builder] MSR2000 TRN9689 R1 Audio board schematic needed......

2009-10-28 Thread Eric Lemmon
Wayne, In compliance with copyright infringement laws, you won't find Motorola manuals on this site while they are still in print. The detailed information on the TRN9689 module is contained in the MSR2000 Control and Applications manual 6881061E40, which is available for purchase from Motorola

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread Glenn Little WB4UIV
Locally, years ago, we had a military transmitter that had a wandering spur. I am near Charleston, SC. The spur was strong enough to key up amateur radio repeaters in the two meter band from Wilmington, NC to Savannah, Ga. The offender turned out to be a 250 Watt base station used to cover

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread Facility 406 DM09
: There is some software that allows finger printing of a transmission : base on the lockup signature and oscillator stability as seen on the : transmitted signal. I am interested in such things! Anyone have any good suggestions or input regarding software or systems? Kurt

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread Kris Kirby
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009, Facility 406 DM09 wrote: I am interested in such things! Anyone have any good suggestions or input regarding software or systems? Cavity - digital storage oscilliscope. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR Disinformation Analyst

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread DCFluX
I'd use a really fast spectrum analyzer, meaning an analog one and point a video camera at it On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Kris Kirby k...@catonic.us wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009, Facility 406 DM09 wrote: I am interested in such things!  Anyone have any good suggestions or input regarding