Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek?
I was able to have a couple made at Lows. I can't remember the number of the key but they did find one that came very close and it worked ok. Aug 30, 2010 01:06:54 AM, Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com wrote: Ah yes...the old BF-10aI have one.. a little beat up, would love to have a pristine one, just in case. KM3W From: MCH To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, August 29, 2010 4:52:58 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? GE = BF10A RCA = CH751 Joe M. Pointman wrote: Like most of the commercial stuff of that era, the unit was locked into a car or truck instead of bolted in. It made for an easier repair to just unlock it rather than unbolting everything. It sat in a cradle with the locking mechanism that WAS bolted to the car body. GE and RCA also had their keys...GE's was a B210/810? Maybe..? its been a while since I handled any of that old stuff KM3W -- *From:* Chuck Kelsey wb2...@roadrunner.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sun, August 29, 2010 12:50:18 PM *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? It simply locks the cover in place. You'll want a key anyway. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: KP3FT kp...@yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 12:09 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? Hi, I know it's a dumb question, but after scouring the internet for info, I find everything about locks and replacement keys for Motorolas and other radios, but I still don't know what locking the Mitrek actually does. Does it kill all power to the radio, or disable certain functions? I'm asking because I just acquired a low-band Mitrek that I need to power up and verify its working condition. It doesn't have a control head, so I need to use the front panel pins, but if the radio is locked, I may end up getting nowhere and still not know if it's either the radio that is bad, it is locked out, or I wired it wrong. This is the first Mitrek I've had. Thanks for any help. Jeff KP3FT Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3100 - Release Date: 08/29/10 02:34:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek?
It simply locks the cover in place. You'll want a key anyway. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: KP3FT kp...@yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 12:09 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? Hi, I know it's a dumb question, but after scouring the internet for info, I find everything about locks and replacement keys for Motorolas and other radios, but I still don't know what locking the Mitrek actually does. Does it kill all power to the radio, or disable certain functions? I'm asking because I just acquired a low-band Mitrek that I need to power up and verify its working condition. It doesn't have a control head, so I need to use the front panel pins, but if the radio is locked, I may end up getting nowhere and still not know if it's either the radio that is bad, it is locked out, or I wired it wrong. This is the first Mitrek I've had. Thanks for any help. Jeff KP3FT Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3100 - Release Date: 08/29/10 02:34:00
RE: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek?
Jeff, The reason that most trunk-mount radios are locked is to prevent theft and tampering. The lock has no electrical function. You will need the ubiquitous #2135 key to unlock your Mitrek drawer. You definitely want to open up the radio before applying power to it, so that you can ascertain if the channel elements are in place, and what optional components are installed. Since Motorola shipped two keys with every radio sold, most radio shops will have a drawer full of #2135 keys. If you ask, you will likely get one or two free. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of KP3FT Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 9:09 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? Hi, I know it's a dumb question, but after scouring the internet for info, I find everything about locks and replacement keys for Motorolas and other radios, but I still don't know what locking the Mitrek actually does. Does it kill all power to the radio, or disable certain functions? I'm asking because I just acquired a low-band Mitrek that I need to power up and verify its working condition. It doesn't have a control head, so I need to use the front panel pins, but if the radio is locked, I may end up getting nowhere and still not know if it's either the radio that is bad, it is locked out, or I wired it wrong. This is the first Mitrek I've had. Thanks for any help. Jeff KP3FT
Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek?
Like most of the commercial stuff of that era, the unit was locked into a car or truck instead of bolted in. It made for an easier repair to just unlock it rather than unbolting everything. It sat in a cradle with the locking mechanism that WAS bolted to the car body. GE and RCA also had their keys...GE's was a B210/810? Maybe..? its been a while since I handled any of that old stuff KM3W From: Chuck Kelsey wb2...@roadrunner.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, August 29, 2010 12:50:18 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? It simply locks the cover in place. You'll want a key anyway. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: KP3FT kp...@yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 12:09 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? Hi, I know it's a dumb question, but after scouring the internet for info, I find everything about locks and replacement keys for Motorolas and other radios, but I still don't know what locking the Mitrek actually does. Does it kill all power to the radio, or disable certain functions? I'm asking because I just acquired a low-band Mitrek that I need to power up and verify its working condition. It doesn't have a control head, so I need to use the front panel pins, but if the radio is locked, I may end up getting nowhere and still not know if it's either the radio that is bad, it is locked out, or I wired it wrong. This is the first Mitrek I've had. Thanks for any help. Jeff KP3FT Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3100 - Release Date: 08/29/10 02:34:00
RE: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek?
Thanks guys. Looks like this radio might work; need something for a 6-meter beacon transmitter. Tried a Mocom but it wasn't functional. Tried a Maxtrac but the carrier was really squirrely even when I tried the various mods, must be due to the PLL instead of crystal-control. Have to see how the carrier sounds on the Mitrek; if it's good I'll have one of the TX channel elements re-crystalled. Been trying to get something for a 6-meter beacon that doesn't cost a fortune, on and off for the past few years between other projects, and finding it a lot more difficult than it was finding a suitable 10-meter beacon transmitter! Learning a lot in the process though, that's a good thing... 73 Jeff KP3FT --- On Sun, 8/29/10, Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net wrote: From: Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 12:56 PM Jeff, The reason that most trunk-mount radios are locked is to prevent theft and tampering. The lock has no electrical function. You will need the ubiquitous #2135 key to unlock your Mitrek drawer. You definitely want to open up the radio before applying power to it, so that you can ascertain if the channel elements are in place, and what optional components are installed. Since Motorola shipped two keys with every radio sold, most radio shops will have a drawer full of #2135 keys. If you ask, you will likely get one or two free. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of KP3FT Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 9:09 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? Hi, I know it's a dumb question, but after scouring the internet for info, I find everything about locks and replacement keys for Motorolas and other radios, but I still don't know what locking the Mitrek actually does. Does it kill all power to the radio, or disable certain functions? I'm asking because I just acquired a low-band Mitrek that I need to power up and verify its working condition. It doesn't have a control head, so I need to use the front panel pins, but if the radio is locked, I may end up getting nowhere and still not know if it's either the radio that is bad, it is locked out, or I wired it wrong. This is the first Mitrek I've had. Thanks for any help. Jeff KP3FT
RE: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek?
I'm assuming this is a CW beacon? I would think that whether rockbound or synthesized, you'd probably be best off having the oscillator running all the time and keying RF at a gain or multiplier stage. You might have to do some keying waveform shaping to avoid keyclicks. I'd take a real close look at the output spectra with something capable of catching transients or any spurs that occur during the keying ramps; maybe key it on/off at a rapid rate repeatedly while doing a peak-hold with the SA for a few minutes to look for any anomalies as a first pass. --- Jeff WN3A -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff KP3FT Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 1:16 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? Thanks guys. Looks like this radio might work; need something for a 6-meter beacon transmitter. Tried a Mocom but it wasn't functional. Tried a Maxtrac but the carrier was really squirrely even when I tried the various mods, must be due to the PLL instead of crystal-control. Have to see how the carrier sounds on the Mitrek; if it's good I'll have one of the TX channel elements re-crystalled. Been trying to get something for a 6-meter beacon that doesn't cost a fortune, on and off for the past few years between other projects, and finding it a lot more difficult than it was finding a suitable 10-meter beacon transmitter! Learning a lot in the process though, that's a good thing... 73 Jeff KP3FT --- On Sun, 8/29/10, Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net wrote: From: Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 12:56 PM Jeff, The reason that most trunk-mount radios are locked is to prevent theft and tampering. The lock has no electrical function. You will need the ubiquitous #2135 key to unlock your Mitrek drawer. You definitely want to open up the radio before applying power to it, so that you can ascertain if the channel elements are in place, and what optional components are installed. Since Motorola shipped two keys with every radio sold, most radio shops will have a drawer full of #2135 keys. If you ask, you will likely get one or two free. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of KP3FT Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 9:09 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? Hi, I know it's a dumb question, but after scouring the internet for info, I find everything about locks and replacement keys for Motorolas and other radios, but I still don't know what locking the Mitrek actually does. Does it kill all power to the radio, or disable certain functions? I'm asking because I just acquired a low-band Mitrek that I need to power up and verify its working condition. It doesn't have a control head, so I need to use the front panel pins, but if the radio is locked, I may end up getting nowhere and still not know if it's either the radio that is bad, it is locked out, or I wired it wrong. This is the first Mitrek I've had. Thanks for any help. Jeff KP3FT
Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek?
GE = BF10A RCA = CH751 Joe M. Pointman wrote: Like most of the commercial stuff of that era, the unit was locked into a car or truck instead of bolted in. It made for an easier repair to just unlock it rather than unbolting everything. It sat in a cradle with the locking mechanism that WAS bolted to the car body. GE and RCA also had their keys...GE's was a B210/810? Maybe..? its been a while since I handled any of that old stuff KM3W *From:* Chuck Kelsey wb2...@roadrunner.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sun, August 29, 2010 12:50:18 PM *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? It simply locks the cover in place. You'll want a key anyway. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: KP3FT kp...@yahoo.com mailto:kp3ft%40yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 12:09 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? Hi, I know it's a dumb question, but after scouring the internet for info, I find everything about locks and replacement keys for Motorolas and other radios, but I still don't know what locking the Mitrek actually does. Does it kill all power to the radio, or disable certain functions? I'm asking because I just acquired a low-band Mitrek that I need to power up and verify its working condition. It doesn't have a control head, so I need to use the front panel pins, but if the radio is locked, I may end up getting nowhere and still not know if it's either the radio that is bad, it is locked out, or I wired it wrong. This is the first Mitrek I've had. Thanks for any help. Jeff KP3FT Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3100 - Release Date: 08/29/10 02:34:00
RE: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek?
Hi, I tried that with the Maxtrac, kept the oscillator on and keyed the TX at the second driver stage, but it was still nowhere close. I know the Maxars are used quite a lot for beacons, but I've had no luck finding one at a reasonable price, so figure to try the Mitrek. It's set now at 49.3 MHz, so it's already not far from the beacon subband. --- On Sun, 8/29/10, Jeff DePolo j...@broadsci.com wrote: From: Jeff DePolo j...@broadsci.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 3:48 PM I'm assuming this is a CW beacon? I would think that whether rockbound or synthesized, you'd probably be best off having the oscillator running all the time and keying RF at a gain or multiplier stage. You might have to do some keying waveform shaping to avoid keyclicks. I'd take a real close look at the output spectra with something capable of catching transients or any spurs that occur during the keying ramps; maybe key it on/off at a rapid rate repeatedly while doing a peak-hold with the SA for a few minutes to look for any anomalies as a first pass. --- Jeff WN3A -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff KP3FT Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 1:16 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? Thanks guys. Looks like this radio might work; need something for a 6-meter beacon transmitter. Tried a Mocom but it wasn't functional. Tried a Maxtrac but the carrier was really squirrely even when I tried the various mods, must be due to the PLL instead of crystal-control. Have to see how the carrier sounds on the Mitrek; if it's good I'll have one of the TX channel elements re-crystalled. Been trying to get something for a 6-meter beacon that doesn't cost a fortune, on and off for the past few years between other projects, and finding it a lot more difficult than it was finding a suitable 10-meter beacon transmitter! Learning a lot in the process though, that's a good thing... 73 Jeff KP3FT --- On Sun, 8/29/10, Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net wrote: From: Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 12:56 PM Jeff, The reason that most trunk-mount radios are locked is to prevent theft and tampering. The lock has no electrical function. You will need the ubiquitous #2135 key to unlock your Mitrek drawer. You definitely want to open up the radio before applying power to it, so that you can ascertain if the channel elements are in place, and what optional components are installed. Since Motorola shipped two keys with every radio sold, most radio shops will have a drawer full of #2135 keys. If you ask, you will likely get one or two free. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of KP3FT Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 9:09 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? Hi, I know it's a dumb question, but after scouring the internet for info, I find everything about locks and replacement keys for Motorolas and other radios, but I still don't know what locking the Mitrek actually does. Does it kill all power to the radio, or disable certain functions? I'm asking because I just acquired a low-band Mitrek that I need to power up and verify its working condition. It doesn't have a control head, so I need to use the front panel pins, but if the radio is locked, I may end up getting nowhere and still not know if it's either the radio that is bad, it is locked out, or I wired it wrong. This is the first Mitrek I've had. Thanks for any help. Jeff KP3FT
Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek?
Get a Syntor X , programmable and will run 100 watts plus. tom On 8/29/2010 1:15 PM, Jeff KP3FT wrote: Thanks guys. Looks like this radio might work; need something for a 6-meter beacon transmitter. Tried a Mocom but it wasn't functional. Tried a Maxtrac but the carrier was really squirrely even when I tried the various mods, must be due to the PLL instead of crystal-control. Have to see how the carrier sounds on the Mitrek; if it's good I'll have one of the TX channel elements re-crystalled. Been trying to get something for a 6-meter beacon that doesn't cost a fortune, on and off for the past few years between other projects, and finding it a lot more difficult than it was finding a suitable 10-meter beacon transmitter! Learning a lot in the process though, that's a good thing... 73 Jeff KP3FT --- On *Sun, 8/29/10, Eric Lemmon /wb6...@verizon.net/* wrote: From: Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 12:56 PM Jeff, The reason that most trunk-mount radios are locked is to prevent theft and tampering. The lock has no electrical function. You will need the ubiquitous #2135 key to unlock your Mitrek drawer. You definitely want to open up the radio before applying power to it, so that you can ascertain if the channel elements are in place, and what optional components are installed. Since Motorola shipped two keys with every radio sold, most radio shops will have a drawer full of #2135 keys. If you ask, you will likely get one or two free. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com /mc/compose?to=Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com /mc/compose?to=Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of KP3FT Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 9:09 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com /mc/compose?to=Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? Hi, I know it's a dumb question, but after scouring the internet for info, I find everything about locks and replacement keys for Motorolas and other radios, but I still don't know what locking the Mitrek actually does. Does it kill all power to the radio, or disable certain functions? I'm asking because I just acquired a low-band Mitrek that I need to power up and verify its working condition. It doesn't have a control head, so I need to use the front panel pins, but if the radio is locked, I may end up getting nowhere and still not know if it's either the radio that is bad, it is locked out, or I wired it wrong. This is the first Mitrek I've had. Thanks for any help. Jeff KP3FT
Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek?
At 09:09 AM 08/29/10, you wrote: Hi, I know it's a dumb question, but after scouring the internet for info, I find everything about locks and replacement keys for Motorolas and other radios, but I still don't know what locking the Mitrek actually does. Does it kill all power to the radio, or disable certain functions? I'm asking because I just acquired a low-band Mitrek that I need to power up and verify its working condition. It doesn't have a control head, so I need to use the front panel pins, but if the radio is locked, I may end up getting nowhere and still not know if it's either the radio that is bad, it is locked out, or I wired it wrong. This is the first Mitrek I've had. Thanks for any help. Jeff KP3FT http://www.repeater-builder.com/keyspage/keyspage-index.html Please don't solder to the front connector pins. Get hold of a matching connector and solder to that. Please go to this web page at http://www.repeater-builder.com/mitrek/mitrek-index.html and scroll down to the Low Band section and read the articles on 6m mods. Then scroll down to the Non-RF section and read the two articles titled Interfacing the Mitrek mobile radio to your repeater controller and Karl AK2O and the Spokane Repeater Group have a different take on converting the Mitrek. Both have good info on interfacing (i.e. connecting to the radio) and mounting/cooling. Mike WA6ILQ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek?
Hi Mike, Thanks for the links. The second link was in fact the first webpage I read and bookmarked yesterday. Ton of good info, plus I found a PDF service manual online. The keys page link didn't work, and then I ran across this Yahoo group so I joined to get advice. Still have some questions on bypassing the antenna RX/TX relay, but will cross that bridge when I get the top cover off and get it to transmit. --- On Sun, 8/29/10, Mike Morris wa6i...@verizon.net wrote: From: Mike Morris wa6i...@verizon.net Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 6:46 PM At 09:09 AM 08/29/10, you wrote: Hi, I know it's a dumb question, but after scouring the internet for info, I find everything about locks and replacement keys for Motorolas and other radios, but I still don't know what locking the Mitrek actually does. Does it kill all power to the radio, or disable certain functions? I'm asking because I just acquired a low-band Mitrek that I need to power up and verify its working condition. It doesn't have a control head, so I need to use the front panel pins, but if the radio is locked, I may end up getting nowhere and still not know if it's either the radio that is bad, it is locked out, or I wired it wrong. This is the first Mitrek I've had. Thanks for any help. Jeff KP3FT http://www.repeater-builder.com/keyspage/keyspage-index.html Please don't solder to the front connector pins. Get hold of a matching connector and solder to that. Please go to this web page at http://www.repeater-builder.com/mitrek/mitrek-index.html and scroll down to the Low Band section and read the articles on 6m mods. Then scroll down to the Non-RF section and read the two articles titled Interfacing the Mitrek mobile radio to your repeater controller and Karl AK2O and the Spokane Repeater Group have a different take on converting the Mitrek. Both have good info on interfacing (i.e. connecting to the radio) and mounting/cooling. Mike WA6ILQ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek?
Hello Jeff. All commercials radios have locks on them. The lock is so that the radio can be locked into the mounting bracket, #1 so no one steals it, #2 so it does not become a flying projectile if the vehicle is in a crash, and # 3 to keep people from messing with the radios. You would be surprised what people do to radios just to mess with the them, sometimes so they do not have to use them. Some people cut the antennas leads, control cables or power leads. Sometimes they throw the control head out of the vehicle. You should try to find a set of accessory group for the radio, if you are trying to hook it up, as you probably do not know which wires to connect to. The control head has two power connections, one for the receive side, and one for the transmitter side. If you hook any wire wrong, you might zapp the electronics inside the radio. You will also need to find a key to unlock it as many times the crystals that make the trasnmitter operate have been removed. Hope this helps. Butch, KE7FEL/r On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 10:09 AM, KP3FT kp...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I know it's a dumb question, but after scouring the internet for info, I find everything about locks and replacement keys for Motorolas and other radios, but I still don't know what locking the Mitrek actually does. Does it kill all power to the radio, or disable certain functions? I'm asking because I just acquired a low-band Mitrek that I need to power up and verify its working condition. It doesn't have a control head, so I need to use the front panel pins, but if the radio is locked, I may end up getting nowhere and still not know if it's either the radio that is bad, it is locked out, or I wired it wrong. This is the first Mitrek I've had. Thanks for any help. Jeff KP3FT
Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek?
Ah yes...the old BF-10aI have one.. a little beat up, would love to have a pristine one, just in case. KM3W From: MCH m...@nb.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, August 29, 2010 4:52:58 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? GE = BF10A RCA = CH751 Joe M. Pointman wrote: Like most of the commercial stuff of that era, the unit was locked into a car or truck instead of bolted in. It made for an easier repair to just unlock it rather than unbolting everything. It sat in a cradle with the locking mechanism that WAS bolted to the car body. GE and RCA also had their keys...GE's was a B210/810? Maybe..? its been a while since I handled any of that old stuff KM3W -- *From:* Chuck Kelsey wb2...@roadrunner.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sun, August 29, 2010 12:50:18 PM *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? It simply locks the cover in place. You'll want a key anyway. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: KP3FT kp...@yahoo.com mailto:kp3ft%40yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 12:09 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? Hi, I know it's a dumb question, but after scouring the internet for info, I find everything about locks and replacement keys for Motorolas and other radios, but I still don't know what locking the Mitrek actually does. Does it kill all power to the radio, or disable certain functions? I'm asking because I just acquired a low-band Mitrek that I need to power up and verify its working condition. It doesn't have a control head, so I need to use the front panel pins, but if the radio is locked, I may end up getting nowhere and still not know if it's either the radio that is bad, it is locked out, or I wired it wrong. This is the first Mitrek I've had. Thanks for any help. Jeff KP3FT Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3100 - Release Date: 08/29/10 02:34:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek?
Nope. In fact, only the higher end radios came with locks, and today almost none of them come with locks. Joe M. Glenn (Butch) Kanvick wrote: All commercials radios have locks on them. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: repeater-builder-dig...@yahoogroups.com repeater-builder-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: repeater-builder-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek?
I didn’t know that RCA shared the CH751 key with the Cabinet key for Motorola Outdoor cabinets. This could be an error. Bill Hudson W6CBS Any of these keys can be duplicated at your local locksmith. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Pointman Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 6:07 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? Ah yes...the old BF-10aI have one.. a little beat up, would love to have a pristine one, just in case. KM3W _ From: MCH m...@nb.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, August 29, 2010 4:52:58 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? GE = BF10A RCA = CH751 Joe M. Pointman wrote: Like most of the commercial stuff of that era, the unit was locked into a car or truck instead of bolted in. It made for an easier repair to just unlock it rather than unbolting everything. It sat in a cradle with the locking mechanism that WAS bolted to the car body. GE and RCA also had their keys...GE's was a B210/810? Maybe..? its been a while since I handled any of that old stuff KM3W -- *From:* Chuck Kelsey wb2...@roadrunner.com mailto:wb2edv%40roadrunner.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sun, August 29, 2010 12:50:18 PM *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? It simply locks the cover in place. You'll want a key anyway. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: KP3FT kp...@yahoo.com mailto:kp3ft%40yahoo.com mailto:kp3ft%40yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 12:09 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? Hi, I know it's a dumb question, but after scouring the internet for info, I find everything about locks and replacement keys for Motorolas and other radios, but I still don't know what locking the Mitrek actually does. Does it kill all power to the radio, or disable certain functions? I'm asking because I just acquired a low-band Mitrek that I need to power up and verify its working condition. It doesn't have a control head, so I need to use the front panel pins, but if the radio is locked, I may end up getting nowhere and still not know if it's either the radio that is bad, it is locked out, or I wired it wrong. This is the first Mitrek I've had. Thanks for any help. Jeff KP3FT Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3100 - Release Date: 08/29/10 02:34:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek?
It didn't share the same key, the RCA key was the same general shape as the CH-751 but would not work. The RCA key was called an RCA1 key. 73 everybody Mike KB5FLX - Original Message - From: Bill Hudson To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 9:57 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? I didn’t know that RCA shared the CH751 key with the Cabinet key for Motorola Outdoor cabinets. This could be an error. Bill Hudson W6CBS Any of these keys can be duplicated at your local locksmith. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Pointman Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 6:07 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? Ah yes...the old BF-10aI have one.. a little beat up, would love to have a pristine one, just in case. KM3W -- From: MCH m...@nb.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, August 29, 2010 4:52:58 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? GE = BF10A RCA = CH751 Joe M. Pointman wrote: Like most of the commercial stuff of that era, the unit was locked into a car or truck instead of bolted in. It made for an easier repair to just unlock it rather than unbolting everything. It sat in a cradle with the locking mechanism that WAS bolted to the car body. GE and RCA also had their keys...GE's was a B210/810? Maybe..? its been a while since I handled any of that old stuff KM3W -- *From:* Chuck Kelsey wb2...@roadrunner.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sun, August 29, 2010 12:50:18 PM *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? It simply locks the cover in place. You'll want a key anyway. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: KP3FT kp...@yahoo.com mailto:kp3ft%40yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 12:09 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? Hi, I know it's a dumb question, but after scouring the internet for info, I find everything about locks and replacement keys for Motorolas and other radios, but I still don't know what locking the Mitrek actually does. Does it kill all power to the radio, or disable certain functions? I'm asking because I just acquired a low-band Mitrek that I need to power up and verify its working condition. It doesn't have a control head, so I need to use the front panel pins, but if the radio is locked, I may end up getting nowhere and still not know if it's either the radio that is bad, it is locked out, or I wired it wrong. This is the first Mitrek I've had. Thanks for any help. Jeff KP3FT Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3100 - Release Date: 08/29/10 02:34:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek?
Maybe I looked at the wrong key on my ring. Joe M. Bill Hudson wrote: I didn’t know that RCA shared the CH751 key with the Cabinet key for Motorola Outdoor cabinets. This could be an error. Bill Hudson W6CBS Any of these keys can be duplicated at your local locksmith. *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Pointman *Sent:* Sunday, August 29, 2010 6:07 PM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? Ah yes...the old BF-10aI have one.. a little beat up, would love to have a pristine one, just in case. KM3W *From:* MCH m...@nb.net *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sun, August 29, 2010 4:52:58 PM *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? GE = BF10A RCA = CH751 Joe M. Pointman wrote: Like most of the commercial stuff of that era, the unit was locked into a car or truck instead of bolted in. It made for an easier repair to just unlock it rather than unbolting everything. It sat in a cradle with the locking mechanism that WAS bolted to the car body. GE and RCA also had their keys...GE's was a B210/810? Maybe..? its been a while since I handled any of that old stuff KM3W -- *From:* Chuck Kelsey wb2...@roadrunner.com mailto:wb2edv%40roadrunner.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sun, August 29, 2010 12:50:18 PM *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? It simply locks the cover in place. You'll want a key anyway. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: KP3FT kp...@yahoo.com mailto:kp3ft%40yahoo.com mailto:kp3ft%40yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 12:09 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? Hi, I know it's a dumb question, but after scouring the internet for info, I find everything about locks and replacement keys for Motorolas and other radios, but I still don't know what locking the Mitrek actually does. Does it kill all power to the radio, or disable certain functions? I'm asking because I just acquired a low-band Mitrek that I need to power up and verify its working condition. It doesn't have a control head, so I need to use the front panel pins, but if the radio is locked, I may end up getting nowhere and still not know if it's either the radio that is bad, it is locked out, or I wired it wrong. This is the first Mitrek I've had. Thanks for any help. Jeff KP3FT Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3100 - Release Date: 08/29/10 02:34:00 Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.783 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2746 - Release Date: 03/14/10 03:33:00 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: repeater-builder-dig...@yahoogroups.com repeater-builder-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: repeater-builder-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek?
Thanks for the confirmation. I was positive it was an error. Bill Hudson – W6CBS From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Dietrich Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 8:14 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? It didn't share the same key, the RCA key was the same general shape as the CH-751 but would not work. The RCA key was called an RCA1 key. 73 everybody Mike KB5FLX - Original Message - From: Bill Hudson mailto:w6...@pacbell.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 9:57 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? I didn’t know that RCA shared the CH751 key with the Cabinet key for Motorola Outdoor cabinets. This could be an error. Bill Hudson W6CBS Any of these keys can be duplicated at your local locksmith. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Pointman Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 6:07 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? Ah yes...the old BF-10aI have one.. a little beat up, would love to have a pristine one, just in case. KM3W _ From: MCH m...@nb.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, August 29, 2010 4:52:58 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? GE = BF10A RCA = CH751 Joe M. Pointman wrote: Like most of the commercial stuff of that era, the unit was locked into a car or truck instead of bolted in. It made for an easier repair to just unlock it rather than unbolting everything. It sat in a cradle with the locking mechanism that WAS bolted to the car body. GE and RCA also had their keys...GE's was a B210/810? Maybe..? its been a while since I handled any of that old stuff KM3W -- *From:* Chuck Kelsey wb2...@roadrunner.com mailto:wb2edv%40roadrunner.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sun, August 29, 2010 12:50:18 PM *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? It simply locks the cover in place. You'll want a key anyway. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: KP3FT kp...@yahoo.com mailto:kp3ft%40yahoo.com mailto:kp3ft%40yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 12:09 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? Hi, I know it's a dumb question, but after scouring the internet for info, I find everything about locks and replacement keys for Motorolas and other radios, but I still don't know what locking the Mitrek actually does. Does it kill all power to the radio, or disable certain functions? I'm asking because I just acquired a low-band Mitrek that I need to power up and verify its working condition. It doesn't have a control head, so I need to use the front panel pins, but if the radio is locked, I may end up getting nowhere and still not know if it's either the radio that is bad, it is locked out, or I wired it wrong. This is the first Mitrek I've had. Thanks for any help. Jeff KP3FT Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3100 - Release Date: 08/29/10 02:34:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek?
No, the CH751 is different, but the MRCA was the same as the Kelvinator refrigerator for years. Bill Hudson wrote: I didn’t know that RCA shared the CH751 key with the Cabinet key for Motorola Outdoor cabinets. This could be an error. Bill Hudson W6CBS -- mailto:o...@ozindfw.net Oz POB 93167 Southlake, TX 76092 (Near DFW Airport)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek?
I have an MRCA key, and have never heard of the RCA1 Can I get a photo of each side of your RCA1 for the Keys Page? http://www.repeater-builder.com/keyspage/keyspage-index.html Mike? At 06:19 PM 08/29/10, you wrote:  It didn't share the same key, the RCA key was the same general shape as the CH-751 but would not work. The RCA key was called an RCA1 key. 73 everybody Mike KB5FLX - Original Message - From: mailto:w6...@pacbell.netBill Hudson To: mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 9:57 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? I didnât know that RCA shared the CH751 key with the Cabinet key for Motorola Outdoor cabinets. This could be an error. Bill Hudson W6CBS Any of these keys can be duplicated at your local locksmith. From: mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Pointman Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 6:07 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? Ah yes...the old BF-10aI have one.. a little beat up, would love to have a pristine one, just in case. KM3W From: MCH m...@nb.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, August 29, 2010 4:52:58 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? GE = BF10A RCA = CH751 Joe M. Pointman wrote: Like most of the commercial stuff of that era, the unit was locked into a car or truck instead of bolted in. It made for an easier repair to just unlock it rather than unbolting everything. It sat in a cradle with the locking mechanism that WAS bolted to the car body. GE and RCA also had their keys...GE's was a B210/810? Maybe..? its been a while since I handled any of that old stuff KM3W -- *From:* Chuck Kelsey mailto:wb2edv%40roadrunner.comwb2...@roadrunner.com *To:* mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sun, August 29, 2010 12:50:18 PM *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? It simply locks the cover in place. You'll want a key anyway. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: KP3FT mailto:kp3ft%40yahoo.comkp...@yahoo.com mailto:kp3ft%40yahoo.com To: mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 12:09 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? Hi, I know it's a dumb question, but after scouring the internet for info, I find everything about locks and replacement keys for Motorolas and other radios, but I still don't know what locking the Mitrek actually does. Does it kill all power to the radio, or disable certain functions? I'm asking because I just acquired a low-band Mitrek that I need to power up and verify its working condition. It doesn't have a control head, so I need to use the front panel pins, but if the radio is locked, I may end up getting nowhere and still not know if it's either the radio that is bad, it is locked out, or I wired it wrong. This is the first Mitrek I've had. Thanks for any help. Jeff KP3FT Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.comwww.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3100 - Release Date: 08/29/10 02:34:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3101 - Release Date: 08/29/10 11:34:00
