RE: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220

2009-10-22 Thread no6b
At 10/21/2009 13:23, you wrote: Anybody got any suggestions about fixing the squelch circuit? (Spare me the get a REAL repeater comments please!) Is the MICOR squelch still available? Anybody done it to one of these? I added a Micor squelch board from LinkComm to a Kendecom RX once. It

Re: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220

2009-10-22 Thread no6b
At 10/21/2009 18:26, you wrote: risking getting flamed The micor squelch is great, but it's not magic. Good amps, good filters, limiters, and a bi-level comparator. I've built a couple... mine weren't as great, but the one on the MSR2000 R1 audio card is Motorola's knock off of their own chip,

RE: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220

2009-10-22 Thread mwbesemer
Bob, Have you got a diagram or notes on how you did your installation? Mike WM4B On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:49 AM, n...@no6b.com wrote: At 10/21/2009 13:23, you wrote: Anybody got any suggestions about fixing the squelch circuit? (Spare me the get a REAL repeater comments please!)

Re: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220

2009-10-22 Thread Cort Buffington
Doesn't seem un-doable. That chip is almost 40 years old, during the time it was developed, there just cannot have been some magic you can put on a silicon die that we can't replicate with a few more discrete components or Op-Amps today. I smell a winter project coming on :) On Oct 22,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220

2009-10-22 Thread Matthew Kaufman
Cort Buffington wrote: Doesn't seem un-doable. That chip is almost 40 years old, during the time it was developed, there just cannot have been some magic you can put on a silicon die that we can't replicate with a few more discrete components or Op-Amps today. It is actually pretty

Re: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220

2009-10-22 Thread DCFluX
I reverse engineered the 6709 when I was in High school. It is basically a couple of op-amp sections configured as fairly narrow high frequency band pass filters, an audio to DC rectifier, window comparator and some switching logic to decide whether to be instant closure or switch to 150mS delay.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220

2009-10-22 Thread Kevin Custer
n...@no6b.com wrote: At 10/21/2009 13:23, you wrote: Anybody got any suggestions about fixing the squelch circuit? (Spare me the get a REAL repeater comments please!) Is the MICOR squelch still available? Anybody done it to one of these? I added a Micor squelch board from

RE: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220

2009-10-22 Thread David Jordan
@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220 n...@no6b.com wrote: At 10/21/2009 13:23, you wrote: Anybody got any suggestions about fixing the squelch circuit? (Spare me the get a REAL repeater comments please!) Is the MICOR squelch still available

Re: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220

2009-10-22 Thread Kevin Custer
Why don't you call the factory! They are very helpful if you don't keep them on the phone too long. The repeater was back to the factory more times than I care to mention. The overload problem was reported every time it went back and it always returned working the same way - not fixed.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220

2009-10-22 Thread no6b
At 10/22/2009 08:06, you wrote: Bob, Have you got a diagram or notes on how you did your installation? Unfortunately, no. It was done for a friend's repeater that was partially stolen (including the RX); the remaining pieces were sold. Bob NO6B

RE: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220

2009-10-22 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
22, 2009 10:21 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220 At 10/22/2009 08:06, you wrote: Bob, Have you got a diagram or notes on how you did your installation? Unfortunately, no. It was done for a friend's repeater that was partially

Re: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220

2009-10-22 Thread no6b
At 10/22/2009 12:01, you wrote: mailto:n...@no6b.comn...@no6b.com wrote: At 10/21/2009 13:23, you wrote: Anybody got any suggestions about fixing the squelch circuit? (Spare me the get a REAL repeater comments please!) Is the MICOR squelch still available? Anybody done it to one of

RE: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220

2009-10-21 Thread Pointman
using pure discriminator audio perhaps? --- On Mon, 10/19/09, Michael Ryan mryan...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: From: Michael Ryan mryan...@tampabay.rr.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 1:06 AM

RE: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220

2009-10-21 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
in particular is pretty lousy. 73, Mike WM4B From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:48 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220

Re: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220

2009-10-21 Thread Kevin Custer
The MICOR squelch is available from Link Comm, but its price has become a bit hard to swallow (IMHO) (currently $110.00 not including shipping). With that in mind, you could obtain a Audio Squelch Board from a mobile or station (cheap) and carefully extract the squelch chip and build your

RE: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220

2009-10-21 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
: Re: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220   The MICOR squelch is available from Link Comm, but its price has become a bit hard to swallow (IMHO) (currently $110.00 not including shipping).  With that in mind, you could obtain a Audio Squelch Board from a mobile or station (cheap

Re: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220

2009-10-21 Thread Cort Buffington
risking getting flamed The micor squelch is great, but it's not magic. Good amps, good filters, limiters, and a bi-level comparator. I've built a couple... mine weren't as great, but the one on the MSR2000 R1 audio card is Motorola's knock off of their own chip, and pretty impressive. So,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220

2009-10-20 Thread Nate Duehr
On Oct 18, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Jed Barton wrote: Hey guys, I'm working with a group and have given them several suggestions for repeaters on 220 including hipro, ge, moto, etc. One thing i don't know much about is the kendecom, and thought i would ask since they want to know. As far as

Re: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220

2009-10-18 Thread Kevin Custer
Jed Barton wrote: Hey guys, I'm working with a group and have given them several suggestions for repeaters on 220 including hipro, ge, moto, etc. One thing i don't know much about is the kendecom, and thought i would ask since they want to know. As far as relyability, good, bad? Kendecom

RE: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220

2009-10-18 Thread Michael Ryan
to talk to you about his machine in Fairfax, Va on 224.100. '73, Mike From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Custer Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 1:52 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom

Re: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220

2009-10-18 Thread no6b
At 10/18/2009 10:28 AM, you wrote: Hey guys, I'm working with a group and have given them several suggestions for repeaters on 220 including hipro, ge, moto, etc. One thing i don't know much about is the kendecom, and thought i would ask since they want to know. As far as relyability, good, bad?

Re: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220

2009-10-18 Thread Scott Overstreet
First of all---Kendecom is an obsolete name. The Kendecom line has been updated/improved and has been relabeled as ACS which stands for Advanced Communication Systems which now builds the units. The RF innards are basically the same as the last of Kendecom though improved in some ways-ACS

Re: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220

2009-10-18 Thread WA3GIN
: n...@no6b.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220 At 10/18/2009 10:28 AM, you wrote: Hey guys, I'm working with a group and have given them several suggestions for repeaters

Re: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220

2009-10-18 Thread Neal Newman
Hey Jed How are you my Friend I have had Kendecomm Repeaters... The 2 meter machine was a good machine. never had Issues with it. The 200 Machine Probably had the Hottest receiver you could find on 220Mhz actually had 2 of these on 220.. Lost them in the House fire in 2007. I am still

Re: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220

2009-10-18 Thread MR. B
- *From:* n...@no6b.com mailto:n...@no6b.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:47 PM *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220 At 10/18/2009 10:28 AM, you wrote: Hey guys

Re: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220

2009-10-18 Thread WA3GIN
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220 Dave, I sent a note to your calls...@comcast.net and received this return: Your message cannot be delivered to the following recipients: Recipient

RE: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220

2009-10-18 Thread Michael Ryan
: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of WA3GIN Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 4:26 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220 We had a Mark 4 on 2m, for many years. Transmit audio the best we

RE: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220

2009-10-18 Thread no6b
At 10/18/2009 19:17, you wrote: The repeater there in Fairfax, Va on 224.100 has the best audio of any repeater I ever heard. It is a Kendecom. I dare anyone to tell me that they can tell the difference between the INPUT audio and the OUTPUT audio. Very natural, unprocessed, and a pleasure

RE: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220

2009-10-18 Thread Michael Ryan
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220 At 10/18/2009 19:17, you wrote: The repeater there in Fairfax, Va on 224.100 has the best audio of any repeater I ever heard. It is a Kendecom. I dare anyone to tell me that they can tell