On 01/15/2010 05:15 PM, Zoran Popović wrote:
I feel deceived :( ... Itanium is not going to be supported after March
2014 and in RHEL 6 ?!!?!?!! I know this probably is a bit late reaction,
I have also a SR open with this question and a business case officially
documented in my company (I can
Haven't we already been through this?
Red Hat is continuing support throughout the life of Red Hat Enterprise Linux
release 5, which is publicly 2014 via Red Hat, with other, paid options for
longer terms, including for IA-64.
Microsoft is dropping support for IA-64 after Windows Server 2008R2.
On 04/22/2010 01:45 PM, Bryan J. Smith wrote:
Haven't we already been through this?
Yup, I just wanted to tell the OP about the RHEL 6 release notes. :)
/Brian/
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I suppose I was ranting here a lot, and I also apologize if I did any
unnecessary harm. It is the product of living on a user's front line far
from system integrators or stock exchange markets with strange 64-bit
hardware or mainframes. Maybe I have over-exaggerated significance of Xen
for the
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 01:43:55PM -0400, Bryan J Smith wrote:
On Mon, 2010-04-05 at 20:19 +0300, Janne Blomqvist wrote:
Huh? That's a quite long-winded way of telling us that you didn't
bother to read the linked article beyond extrapolating from the
headline.
I read it.
It seems I
On Sun, 2010-04-04 at 14:36 +0300, Janne Blomqvist wrote:
Well, seems you don't need to worry about Microsoft gaining markeshare
on Itanium at Linux's expense any more:
http://blogs.technet.com/windowsserver/archive/2010/04/02/windows-server-2008-r2-to-phase-out-itanium.aspx
I know this, and
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 11:56:51AM -0400, Bryan J Smith wrote:
On Sun, 2010-04-04 at 14:36 +0300, Janne Blomqvist wrote:
Well, seems you don't need to worry about Microsoft gaining markeshare
on Itanium at Linux's expense any more:
On Mon, 2010-04-05 at 20:19 +0300, Janne Blomqvist wrote:
Huh? That's a quite long-winded way of telling us that you didn't
bother to read the linked article beyond extrapolating from the
headline.
I read it. I am also a MCITP on Windows Server 2008 (not that it
matters, I do it on my own
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 01:17:01PM +0100, Zoran Popovi? wrote:
2010/1/18 John Haxby j...@thehaxbys.co.uk
MS seem to be backing away from Itanium a little; not all flavours of
Win2k8 are available on Itanium and if you wanted to run virtualised
desktops on, say, Windows 7.
Back in 2004
Ok, I've understood the message, and somehow it implies that this is
one of those rare situations where I should feel for and feel alike
Micro$oft - but I can't, really.
ZP.
2010/4/4, Janne Blomqvist janne.blomqv...@tkk.fi:
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 01:17:01PM +0100, Zoran Popovi? wrote:
2010/2/16 Zoran Popović shoom...@gmail.com
2010/2/16 Tom Sightler tt...@tuxyturvy.com
because they cost so much less per unit. Redhat has to make enough
profit of the sheer number of machines, not how much money those
machines costs. It's quite likely that Redhat would be willing to
everyone - to be defined, I am not clear with that.
All I'm saying, if it's only about price of the support it wouldn't be a
problem to pay 10x more for Itanium as it is for some other platforms (are
there similar platforms ?) and correct prices later on ... I am a customer,
I am not aware if some
On 02/17/2010 09:14 AM, Zoran Popović wrote:
everyone - to be defined, I am not clear with that.
All I'm saying, if it's only about price of the support it wouldn't be a
problem to pay 10x more for Itanium as it is for some other platforms
(are there similar platforms ?) and correct prices
The problem is they won't start dying, they were made not to - it was meant
to support what (mission) critical business is ... but I am not here for
that.
I would like to hear, people, what do you think the future of commercial
linux distros on Itanium is one hand, and on the other - what is the
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:50:46PM +0100, Zoran Popovi? wrote:
The problem is they won't start dying, they were made not to - it was
meant to support what (mission) critical business is ... but I am not here
for that.
I would like to hear, people, what do you think the future of
even more convinced that something wrong is going on. I can understand that
market share is important, but different vendors (including SAP) obviously
have different perspectives (Intel has more or less equal income from ia64
and non-ia64, so it is here to stay !!!), and I won't tell now how it
On 16 February 2010 13:19, Jussi Silvennoinen
jussi_rh...@silvennoinen.netwrote:
even more convinced that something wrong is going on. I can understand that
market share is important, but different vendors (including SAP) obviously
have different perspectives (Intel has more or less equal
Can you give me exact references, links ? I meant non-ia64 in the domain of
server CPU architectures aiming critical business, but I will check to what
my source was exactly referring to. Anyway, I am not good with that kind of
figures and price wars (http://www.techuser.net/itanic.html), and I am
On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 18:11 +0100, Zoran Popović wrote:
http://www.idg.com/www/pr.nsf/0/C0DAA9494B23F50985257682005C593D
EPIC servers experienced a resurgence quarter on quarter, up by a
strong 19.7% to $300 million, and nearly on a par with CISC revenue
now
First, remember that report is for
2010/2/16 Tom Sightler tt...@tuxyturvy.com
...
Still, comparisons based solely on revenue does fairly represent
market share from Redhat's perspective. Even if revenue was somehow
equal, $300 million would be what, probably a few thousand EPIC servers,
but that same amount would equate to
And yes, I know what are you talking about and how right you are, but it
sooo easy for you to say that now. I wish you or anyone else could tell me
how it really feels to be where I am now and doing what I have to do now ...
if anyone can imagine that or anything similar at all, let alone some
Once upon a time, Zoran Popoviæ shoom...@gmail.com said:
And yes, I know what are you talking about and how right you are, but it
sooo easy for you to say that now.
Heh, I still have Alpha servers. What is this newfangled Itanium thing
of which you speak? I think our DEC rep talked about it
2010/1/21 Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net
Once upon a time, Zoran Popoviæ shoom...@gmail.com said:
And yes, I know what are you talking about and how right you are, but it
sooo easy for you to say that now.
Heh, I still have Alpha servers. What is this newfangled Itanium thing
of which
2010/1/18 Zoran Popović shoom...@gmail.com
What vendors are still supporting Itanium?
SAP for one, Oracle (but I do get strange signals like late patch dates
compared to other architectures), Micro$oft (they have all major versions of
Win2kX supported fully), and my company has proactive
2010/1/18 John Haxby j...@thehaxbys.co.uk
2010/1/18 Zoran Popović shoom...@gmail.com
What vendors are still supporting Itanium?
SAP for one, Oracle (but I do get strange signals like late patch dates
compared to other architectures), Micro$oft (they have all major versions of
Win2kX
2010/1/18 Zoran Popović shoom...@gmail.com
I would imagine other vendors would offer me migration roadmap [...]
[B]eing informed years ahead what exact option he has.
I've don't think I'm mis-quoting with those two phrases, but there are two
separate things here. A migration roadmap (for
2010/1/18 John Haxby j...@thehaxbys.co.uk
2010/1/18 Zoran Popović shoom...@gmail.com
I would imagine other vendors would offer me migration roadmap [...]
[B]eing informed years ahead what exact option he has.
I've don't think I'm mis-quoting with those two phrases, but there are two
2010/1/15 Zoran Popović shoom...@gmail.com:
I feel deceived :( ... Itanium is not going to be supported after March 2014
and in RHEL 6 ?!!?!?!! I know this probably is a bit late reaction, I have
also a SR open with this question and a business case officially documented
in my company (I can
2010/1/17 Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com
2010/1/15 Zoran Popović shoom...@gmail.com:
I feel deceived :( ... Itanium is not going to be supported after March
2014
and in RHEL 6 ?!!?!?!! I know this probably is a bit late reaction, I
have
also a SR open with this question and a
2010/1/15 Zoran Popović shoom...@gmail.com:
I feel deceived :( ... Itanium is not going to be supported after March 2014
and in RHEL 6 ?!!?!?!! I know this probably is a bit late reaction, I have
also a SR open with this question and a business case officially documented
in my company (I can
I am still compiling some data about current state and different
benchmarking (both official SAP, Oracle and HP, and my personal unofficial
experience).
I will send you what I have (document about half year or more old) at the
moment, to your personal mail if you tell me why you need it.
In short,
I feel deceived :( ... Itanium is not going to be supported after March 2014
and in RHEL 6 ?!!?!?!! I know this probably is a bit late reaction, I have
also a SR open with this question and a business case officially documented
in my company (I can send it gladly to anyone interested) with
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