RE: Powder Diffraction Discussion Group on Facebook

2015-06-09 Thread Alan Coelho
Radovan Interesting discussion, html may allow graphics but doesn't still mean e-mailing large files to everyone. Jon: the IUCR also has a facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/iucr.org Not recognizing the pull/power of facebook, twitter, Instagram etc… is akin to IBM not recognizing the

RE: Powder Diffraction Discussion Group on Facebook

2015-06-09 Thread Alan Coelho
Hi again all I’m no expert but after some quick googling it seems that wordpress, which seems to fall under GNU-GPL, may be what a contender. It talks to facebook and has 1000s of forum type plugins. Or, how about https://www.dokuwiki.org/wiki:dokuwiki DokuWiki is a simple to use and highly

Re: Powder Diffraction Discussion Group on Facebook

2015-06-09 Thread Jonathan WRIGHT
Thanks Davide for this useful initiative, I have joined. I don't doubt the value of the Rietveld list but pictures are also useful. It was recently bought to my attention that funding may be related to public perceptions of research and for this reason we should pay attention to things like

RE: Powder Diffraction Discussion Group on Facebook

2015-06-09 Thread Davide Levy
As far I saw, it is possible to link a blog with a facebook page but not a maillist -Original Message- From: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr [mailto:rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr] On Behalf Of Monica Dapiaggi Sent: 09 June, 2015 11:45 AM To: rietveld_l@ill.fr Subject: Re: Powder Diffraction

RE: Powder Diffraction Discussion Group on Facebook

2015-06-09 Thread Jan Rohlicek
Dear All, is there any possibility to link facebook (or another social platforms) with this email list? E.g. if somebody send email to reitveld list, this will be automatically posted also to facebook and if somebody responds or posts a new question to facebook, it will be posted also to the

RE: Powder Diffraction Discussion Group on Facebook

2015-06-09 Thread Radovan Cerny
Jon, There is no problem to have pictures in the email. Just need to use HTML format for your email. But you have raised an important question: public perceptions. Uni Geneva has already everythink: http://www.unige.ch/communication/diffuser/mediassociaux.html I hope we will not start to

Re: Powder Diffraction Discussion Group on Facebook

2015-06-09 Thread Monica Dapiaggi
Dear All, I think that Jan’s idea may be a good compromise. Facebook has a great visibility among the youngsters, and it may give us more ‘appeal’ in general. I like the mailing list and how it works, but my feeling is that many of the young crystallographers don’t even know what a mailing list

RE: Powder Diffraction Discussion Group on Facebook

2015-06-09 Thread Radovan Cerny
Hi Alan, I have nothing against the evolution of communication tools, protocols etc. Yes, why not to evolve Rietveld mailing list to Rietveld_wiki? Maybe good time to change also the name. But I think that the (a)social networks are not a good choice. Already because all what you post on

Re: Powder Diffraction Discussion Group on Facebook

2015-06-09 Thread Eduard E. Levin
Dear all, my five cents to this discussion, if I may add. The problem of facebook for me is that there is no search mechanism. As a consequence, questions one and the same will appear again and again as we saw here and how it is on ResearchGate now. Add content built-in filtering on top of

RE: Powder Diffraction Discussion Group on Facebook

2015-06-09 Thread Davide Levy
the Idea of Radovan to link the archive is very good and I will do it -Original Message- From: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr [mailto:rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr] On Behalf Of Radovan Cerny Sent: 09 June, 2015 2:23 PM To: Alan Coelho; 'Jonathan WRIGHT'; rietveld_l@ill.fr Subject: RE: Powder

Re: Powder Diffraction Discussion Group on Facebook

2015-06-09 Thread LUIS MARIA RODRIGUEZ LORENZO
hehe, well played Lubo. People can define themselves as they wish, the problem is the impression we produce in others with our self-definitions. still the more channels people have to reach information , the best, and as someone says before, if it does not work it will fade out with no

RE: Powder Diffraction Discussion Group on Facebook

2015-06-09 Thread Ian.Madsen
Hi All, I don't mind which forum the Rietveld list is conducted on - I can use most of them. However, the critically important issue (mentioned a little earlier in the thread) is that we do not dilute where the requests/information is posted - we are not a very large community and cannot

RE: Powder Diffraction Discussion Group on Facebook

2015-06-09 Thread Radovan Cerny
Too many channels = crystallographer's death (freely translated from an old proverb Too many hunters= rabbit's death). Rather to express my opinion that if you have too many options where to look for an info, you spend too much time before you find it. Why the troglodytes should learn Facebook?

RE: Powder Diffraction Discussion Group on Facebook

2015-06-09 Thread Radovan Cerny
BTW: I will declare my vested interest in this discussion: I would love for users of programs like GSAS/Fox/TOPAS/Full-prof etc... to ask scientific questions in scientific forums rather each program having its own web page trying to hold back the tide. There are so many young scientists asking

Re: Powder Diffraction Discussion Group on Facebook

2015-06-09 Thread Othman Al Bahri
This is my fifth month in the field of applied crystallography and as an undergraduate who is still learning how to learn. I sometimes wish things were a little more organised. Finding out about this mailing list (by a totally random lunch-time conversation during an NMR conference) was a

Re: Powder Diffraction Discussion Group on Facebook

2015-06-09 Thread Alan Hewat
the Rietveld mailing list is still where the best knowledgeable is That's encouraging Alan. Thanks. Concerning the number of posts you are right - there are fewer now. I would like to think it's because we have an archive now, and people profit from past answers rather than asking the same

RE: Powder Diffraction Discussion Group on Facebook

2015-06-09 Thread Alan Coelho
Radovan wrote: Looks like cleavage between troglodyts and tweeters. This of course should be avoided. How many general scientific questions do you receive, Alan? I remember to see ~ 1-2 /week on mailing list. Not called for; people don’t like being called names, no wonder the Rietveld mailing

RE: Powder Diffraction Discussion Group on Facebook

2015-06-09 Thread Radovan Cerny
Oh, I didn't realize that my comment was understood by Alan C. as an insult. It was definitely not thought as that. My excuses. Thank you, Alan H., for commenting on that. I must admit that English is definitively not my mother tongue. I summarize, at least for me, that the best way how to

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2015-06-09 Thread Jonathan WRIGHT
Powder Diffraction Discussion Group on facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/1087352967946225/ So from what I gather we have: http://www.xrayforum.co.uk http://www.reddit.com/r/crystallography http://www.researchgate.net/topic/x-ray_diffraction There are many other places where

Re: Powder Diffraction Discussion Group on Facebook

2015-06-09 Thread Roberto R. de Avillez
Indeed I find the list one of my best resources and when I have some doubt on a subject, I search the old posts. Kind regards, Roberto Roberto Ribeiro de Avillez Professor Associado Dept de Engenharia Química e de Materiais Pontifícia Universidade Católica do Rio de Janeiro tel. +55 21 3527

RE: Powder Diffraction Discussion Group on Facebook

2015-06-09 Thread Cline, James Dr.
This is the first pro-Facebook post that has resonated with me to any extent. However, with all the discussion of government surveillance: If my wife sends me an email to the effect that my son has exhausted his supply of clean underwear and would I please do a laundry, no government entity

RE: Powder Diffraction Discussion Group on Facebook

2015-06-09 Thread Davide Levy
In the right side under the picture, there is search in this group function From: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr [mailto:rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr] On Behalf Of Eduard E. Levin Sent: 09 June, 2015 2:55 PM To: rietveld_l@ill.fr Subject: Re: Powder Diffraction Discussion Group on Facebook

RE: Powder Diffraction Discussion Group on Facebook

2015-06-09 Thread Alan Coelho
I can never write something and have it interpreted the way I want it to be. The written word is so hopeless – in my hands that is. Alan Hewat wrote: Hmm ? Are file servers still OK ? Like the Rietveld archive, where people can already include links to pictures I'm afraid respectfully that

Re: Powder Diffraction Discussion Group on Facebook

2015-06-09 Thread Eduard E. Levin
Davide, I apologize for not being precise. I meant ‘no relevant search mechanism’. Of course there is some search engine, but it suffers the same illnesses: ‘infinite scrolling’ instead of complete list, no complex filtering. Eduard. From: Davide Levy Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 2:59 PM To: