Jim,
Thanks for the excellent explanation. Shame on Shinohara for allowing it to
happen.
Ed Kozlowsky
Sanford, Maine
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Perhaps, but since the goal is consistent and repeatable functionality and
cross-compatability, which has certainly been achieved by the majority of HO
track manufacturers, I would say the NMRA standards are irrelevent.
Ed Kozlowsky
Sanford, Maine
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Hi All,
No one so far has addressed Rance and Bente's query, perhaps because there is
no
easy answer. However I would like to point to the possibility of SHS S-TRAX. It
is the only one available with Code 125 rail and is very attractive with
simulated ballasted road bed, but of course only #3
Ed,
For the record, I would have much rather have been at the convention drinking
beer(s) with you and my Father (my railroad's purchasing agent). But, since it
didn't work out this year I figured I would make a little progress on the
layout in honor the big S week. I will shoot some video
Dear Des,
Thank you for your kind words about out #3 switch. But, I would
be remiss if I did not warn those who use code 110 wheels and the use
of a switch as tight as a #3. Slow operation would be needed through
such a tight switch. Also, long cars with body mounted KD style
Not really - The Shinohara #6 switch was designed from the ground up. The
incorrect point-to-frog measurement is one that got by the final design
inspector (me)
Bob Nicholson
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snip I would say the NMRA standards are irrelevent.
Ed Kozlowsky
Ed, if you are a manufacturer that's a scary statement! SHS, RRM and others
design and build models with wheel sets set to current NMRA/NASG standards to
I second Jim's observation--model railroading would never have been a viable
hobby without the NMRA standards!
Fred Tolhurst
Maryville, TN
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OK, let me put it another way. Either the NMRA is giving approval to
non-compliant turnouts, they don't require all of the standards to be met for
approval, they haven't approved any HO turnouts, or the rumor that no HO
turnouts comply is incorrect. I suspect the last.
My first statement is
Four hours - Fast tracks ...hmmm. It takes me two hours to convert a couple
of lengths of rail into a switch of any frog angle, with bolt detail on the
frog, points, and guardrails. I build in place, so there is no install time,
unless you count the switch machine.
Learning curve: I'd say it
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Ed Kozlowsky soldado7...@... wrote:
Either the NMRA is giving approval to non-compliant turnouts, they don't
require all of the standards to be met for approval, they haven't approved
any HO turnouts, or the rumor that no HO turnouts comply is incorrect. I
There are NO comerically made track switches that meet the standards!. MR did a
three part article in 03 (I think) and their numbers proved my point.
Fasrtracks is the closest to meeting them. Remember that you are building a
switch on PC ties Building switches on PC ties is the only way to
Go to the NMRA Recommended Practices and look up the Car to Curvature RP to
see what radius is recommended for a lenght of car. This should answer you
concen.
Paul
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I agree completely. I've installed a couple dozen code 70s that perform very
well after some gauge and guard rail adjustments as mentioned. Even with the
tweeking it takes me about 15-20 minutes to install one. Let's remember that
the original questions was looking for drop in RTR code 100 #6s.
Hi Michael --
I would like to see what you do. Any photos?
Bill Winans
Perscott Valley, AZ
-Current projects: building a new under-body for a Flyer gondola.
-Michael Eldridge
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Bill,
Meaning for a career?
Mike
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Hi Michael --
I would like to see what you do. Any photos?
Bill Winans
Perscott Valley, AZ
Bill,
Sorry about that email, as that was to a different Michael. LOL
My error.
Mike
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Hi Michael --
I would like to see what
Hi Mike (Marmer)--
I was responding to Michael Eldridge's comment about gondola underframes.
I thought there might also be others who would like to see what he does, so
I answered on the group. I should have changed the subject line (now
done)...
Have fun!
Bill Winans
Prescott Valley, AZ
Anyone with a W.A. Drake, Illinois Central gondola excess to his needs? This
the general service version Drake did back in the 1990s in various road names.
I saw one at Steve Doyle's layout during the convention and decided to look
hard for one. If you sell to me instead of that Kindraka guy,
I noticed that Don Heimberger had a few Shinohara turnouts at the
convention in a new style box. I have no idea if the changes Jim
mentions were made but the box appears to be new. I do have a few
Shinohara turnouts on my layout in some minor use locations. I tore
many of them out because
Turnouts the Original question: I would say try the Custom Trax turnout. He
does need lead time but they truly are RTR. I'm glad there are folks who have
had success with Tomalco with some tweaking. I would have been pleased to have
just had to tweak. As always have your NASG gauge handy. I
Anyone with a W.A. Drake, Illinois Central gondola excess to his needs? This
the general service gon Drake did back in the 1990s in various road names. I
saw one at Steve Doyle's layout during the convention and decided to look hard
for one.
Please contact me at brian__jack...@hotmail.com or
Roger that. We have been replacing all Shinoharas for the same reason. Once the
rail joiner-like pivot points wear there's no easy fix. Been using British-made
PC tie turnouts (can't remember the name) for more than a decade now with
excellent results. With the improvement of the
Brian,
How can we find the supplier of this British turnouts? Do they provided curved
tournouts also?
Thanks
Ed Sauers
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How can we find the supplier of these British turnouts?
I just forwarded that message to him.
He once tole me the name of the company that was making them for him, but I
forget what it was.
Do they provided curved
I recall Ed Loizeaux used to snip
require others to check wheel alignment on
any item they want to run on his layout.
Jim Kindraka
Very good memory, Jim. My basic premise is that flawless operation is
possible and attainable. Everything I do is with that goal in mind.
Cosmetics around
Either the NMRA is giving approval to non-compliant turnouts, they don't
require all of the standards to be met for approval, they haven't approved
any HO turnouts, or the rumor that no HO turnouts comply is incorrect.
Ed Kozlowsky
Can anyone tell us exactly which HO turnouts currently have
How can we find the supplier of this British turnouts?
Ed Sauers
Whiteoak Models is the company name used by Kelvin White of Oxford, England.
He purchases them from an English company (forgot name) that primarily makes HO
turnouts. I think Kelvin paid for the upfront design and tooling
Brian, Perhaps the new convention GS gondola would be a good choice.
My understanding is that the plans came from Red Caboose which was
managed by our own Bill McClung who was the importer of the Drake Cars.
That being said I have two UP versions that I wouldn't part with--I've
nicely
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How can we find the supplier of this British turnouts?
Ed Sauers
Whiteoak Models is the company name used by Kelvin White of Oxford, England.
He purchases them from an English company (forgot name) that primarily makes
HO
Brian Jackson wrote:
Anyone with a W.A. Drake, Illinois Central
gondola excess to his needs? This the
general service version Drake did back in
the 1990s in various road names.
Perhaps the new convention GS gondola would be a good choice.
Bob Werre
Thanks for the convention car
Ed, is totally correct in that you can't do too much to assure good
operation. However, there is always a few things that will pop up when
you least expect it. Case in point where a truck will loose it's
mounting screw. It might run for hours without it but when it enters
the tunnel it
Why don't you make your own switches? Use PC ties and go for it.
Paul
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Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 12:34 PM
True #4, 6, and 8s.
NONE as far as I know!
Paul
Can anyone tell us exactly which HO turnouts currently have the NMRA football
conformance seal? Just curious here...Ed L.
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It might run for hours snip but when it enters
the tunnel it might decide to give up.
Bob Werre
The time aspect of things can be most annoying. Some locos will run for 15
minutes and then develop all kinds of intermittent short circuit problems.
Usually, the problem is the mechanical
Why don't you make your own switches? Use PC ties and go for it.
Paul
Hi Paul...
1. I don't need any switches. Trackwork is finished. Layout is almost
finished except for scenery and some electronics stuff.
2. My friend wanted RTR switches that met the official specs. I have given up
I have heard that Custom Trax has made improvements to their product. Until I
see someone install this system and have it work through several seasons of
train running I will rely on my experience on a local layout and suggest that
this system be avoided. I have seen folks go all crazy
I might add that a small section of the frogs usually need to be opened up a
tiny bit with a needle file because these are built, as Ed says, to very tight
specs. Not a problem in my book when balanced against the fact that code 110
wheels will drop down when going over the Shinohara frogs.
I
Brian Jackson wrote:
The Whiteoak turnouts have been our standard for a long time.
One other unique aspect of these turnouts is that of being reusable. The rails
are metal, the ties are circuit boards, the connections are soldered. No
plastic and no wood. Thus, when you want to salvage a
Hi all --
My favorite was the painted brass car that had an intermittent short which
developed after many hours of running. I made sure all wheels were
insulated on the same side so no power could cross between wheelsets or
trucks. It still persisted. Turned out that the flange of one
Kelvin A. White kel...@torteval.co.uk
Ed Kozlowsky
Sanford, Maine
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Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010,
Yep, I don't even glue them down. Just drill a few holes in the ties for Atlas
track nails, then ballast. They are built like the proverbial brick outhouse.
Also, no seasonal issues with pc ties-- unlike wood.
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Brian Jackson wrote:
The
It isn't just our MRR hobby. We recently purchased a new travel trailer. Plenty
not quite right but worst is the breaks. They pulsate or bounce when
applied, especially on a slow stop. So far the dealer has replaced all four
brake drums (out of round) and one scored axle. Now the brake supplier
I used lots of BK's years ago since there wasn't much else out there,
especially in 125. Most of them had to be redone but it was faster than scratch
building. Original Tomalcos were OK as were Eschleman years ago. Larry's first
Tomalcos were as John says but his later ones have been much
Why don't you go buy the cast frog in the right code size(available from HO
manufactures), solder it to PC ties, gage the running rails to the frog, then
make a stub switch that way you do not have to make points. Easy and simple.
Paul
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Regarding the photo on the S-scale List home page, would you trust this guy
enough to buy a gondola car from him? I did. Hint, hint...Ed L.
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Anyone have a BTS depressed center flatcar that they'd part with? They are out
of stock at BTS and probably not to be re-run, however the transformer loads
are in stock.
Bud Rindfleisch
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Dick Karnes did that decades ago with code 125 rail too.
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Why don't you go buy the cast frog in the right code size(available from HO
manufactures), solder it to PC ties, gage the running rails to the frog, then
make a stub
All --
Anyone want some AF Budd car bodies for a project? I have six coaches, two
combines, and an observation car, all in excellent condition. I long ago
removed all the paint from seven of them; two are bare-naked unpainted from the
factory. $10 each, first come, first served. All those
Ed doesn't, however, require that you check if the screw holding the pilot
truck on your 2-6-0 is secure, in case you want to leave it in a long section
of hidden track so the next train can run into it and drop a couple of cars on
the floor.
-Michael Eldridge
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I've got around 25 of the Tomalco's Code 100's and thought they were less
work (time to install) than Fast Tracks. Engines are running fine through
them, but did adjust gauge on some. I would think that Shinohara would be fine
but a bear for adjusting to DCC. No experience with the others.
Since we are on the subject, now that I am nearing completion of the trackwork
on my layout, I have determined that I have an excess of turnouts:
Whiteoak Models, # 6, $30 each, new. I will provide Kappler Kontour Ties
to use as shims. (have 5L 8R)
Shinohara, # 6, $14 each, slightly
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Ed loize...@... wrote:
Either the NMRA is giving approval to non-compliant turnouts, they don't
require all of the standards to be met for approval, they haven't approved
any HO turnouts, or the rumor that no HO turnouts comply is incorrect.
Ed
Well good nite to some and good morning to others,
I'm looking for a couple or three things, one a UP FP-7 shell, a U25B
shell...this being an American Models shell, and an AM FP-7 shell in brown
plastic that at least has a good nose section.
Thanks
gale hall
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