[sage-devel] Puppy Linux 5.0 Lupu (Lucid Puppy) - Ubuntu Packages for Live CD?

2010-05-17 Thread emil
Hi, the last days a new version of the small Puppy Linux was released (128 MB). The special thing is that it uses a new build system, which can take the binary packages of another Linux distribution to build a complete puppy linux system. The idea behind it is to be able to use the vast software

[sage-devel] GMP web sites says Sage relies on GMP

2010-05-17 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
http://gmplib.org/ says **Projects using GMP** There are many interesting projects that rely on GMP. Here are a few examples, in alphabetic order: # Sage is a free mathematics software system, which is gradually becoming a viable alternative to non-free computer algebra systems. That's

Re: [sage-devel] Sage 4.4.1 build failures with gcc 4.4.1 on SUSE 11.2

2010-05-17 Thread Paul Leopardi
Hi all, The build on my machine apparently finished. The end of install.log looks like: -- [...] Successfully installed sagetex-2.2.5 Running the test suite. pdfTeX using libpoppler 3.1415926-1.40.9-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.7) kpathsea

[sage-devel] Re: Puppy Linux 5.0 Lupu (Lucid Puppy) - Ubuntu Packages for Live CD?

2010-05-17 Thread emil
On 17 Mai, 08:59, emil emil.widm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, the last days a new version of the small Puppy Linux was released (128 MB). The special thing is that it uses a new build system, which can take the binary packages of another Linux distribution to build a complete puppy linux system.

[sage-devel] Re: Multivariate polynomial multiplication over Z

2010-05-17 Thread Tom Coates
It turns out that for my problem it suffices to compute the polynomials 1, f, f^2, ..., f^K modulo N for some large but known number N, so I suspect that it may be faster to work modulo p for various primes p and then use the Chinese Remainder Theorem. How large, roughly speaking, can I take

[sage-devel] Re: sage vs. others by nist

2010-05-17 Thread Jason Grout
On 5/15/10 3:04 PM, William Stein wrote: Hi, It would be useful to have a page like this excellent page: http://www.scipy.org/NumPy_for_Matlab_Users Here is a start for graph theory: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/wiki/GraphTheoryRoadmap (or an earlier version in table form:

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Freezing

2010-05-17 Thread Jason Grout
On 5/15/10 4:46 PM, Bruce wrote: Could a determined user then add a method which did modify the data? By the open nature of python, a determined user could *always* add a method which modified the data. Many of the conventions in python are not enforced, and rely on the user behaving

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage vs. others by nist

2010-05-17 Thread David Joyner
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: On 5/15/10 3:04 PM, William Stein wrote: Hi, It would be useful to have a page like this excellent page:     http://www.scipy.org/NumPy_for_Matlab_Users Here is a start for graph theory:

[sage-devel] gac (Gap code compiler) hard-coded path of gap_bin on x86_64 ubuntu 10.04

2010-05-17 Thread William Laffin
Hi sage, I'm trying to follow instructions here to compile Gap code for sage: http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/msg/fea3c5636494bde1 and it works with a vanilla gap install from gap-system.org. But I get errors relating to the build path being hard-coded in the shell script from within

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.4.1 build failures with gcc 4.4.1 on SUSE 11.2

2010-05-17 Thread Jaap Spies
Paul Leopardi wrote: Thanks, Georg, I moved -lm to just before -o test in the makefile for symmetrica-2.0.p5, used tar zcf to creat a replacement spkg, and the make now continues past symmetrica-2.0.p5. The make is still running. I have the following environment variables defined: SAGE64=yes

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GMP web sites says Sage relies on GMP

2010-05-17 Thread William Stein
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Nathan O'Treally not.rea...@online.de wrote: On 17 Mai, 12:09, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: http://gmplib.org/ says **Projects using GMP** There are many interesting projects that rely on GMP. Here are a few examples, in alphabetic

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GMP web sites says Sage relies on GMP

2010-05-17 Thread William Stein
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:21 AM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Nathan O'Treally not.rea...@online.de wrote: On 17 Mai, 12:09, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: http://gmplib.org/ says **Projects using GMP** There are many

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GMP web sites says Sage relies on GMP

2010-05-17 Thread Sergey Bochkanov
Hello, William. You wrote 17 мая 2010 г., 22:13:46: I have written to them about 20 times to get this changed. Did they ever notice that license changed to LGPL 3, so there is nothing to complain now? :( BTW, MPIR team is thinking on developing whole new BSD-licensed library.

[sage-devel] Re: Multivariate polynomial multiplication over Z

2010-05-17 Thread Bill Hart
At the moment, to get to K = 100, you are only using about 388 bits. So the size here is not all that large, only a few limbs. In general arithmetic modulo primes that will fit in a limbs is generally faster than multiple precision arithmetic. But this is mainly due to there being less overhead.

[sage-devel] Fwd: [sage-combinat-devel] permutation group perspectives

2010-05-17 Thread Mike Hansen
-- Forwarded message -- From: Jason B Hill jason.b.h...@colorado.edu Date: Mon, May 17, 2010 at 3:05 PM Subject: [sage-combinat-devel] permutation group perspectives To: sage-combinat-de...@googlegroups.com This comes after a discussion I had with several at Sage days 20.5 in

[sage-devel] Re: GMP web sites says Sage relies on GMP

2010-05-17 Thread Bill Hart
It isn't illegal to contact someone to complain about something they are doing wrong. (I might argue that the opposite is in fact the case.) It is illegal to annoy someone by email without using your real name (the Patriot Act). As I understand it, the Free Software Foundation are very careful on

[sage-devel] Re: GMP web sites says Sage relies on GMP

2010-05-17 Thread Bill Hart
I heard Iceland is a good place to go: http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/iceland-worlds-first-free-speech-haven However, what happens in Iceland: http://www.vodafone.is/eldgos/en doesn't seem to stay there: http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/aviation/vaac/data/VAG_1274117979.png Thus, fleeing

Re: [sage-devel] Sage 4.4.1 build failures with gcc 4.4.1 on SUSE 11.2

2010-05-17 Thread Paul Leopardi
Thanks, Jaap, From: Jaap Spies j.sp...@hccnet.nl Mon, 17 May 2010 18:30:23 +0200 Paul Leopardi wrote: Thanks, Georg, I moved -lm to just before -o test in the makefile for symmetrica-2.0.p5, used tar zcf to creat a replacement spkg, and the make now continues past symmetrica-2.0.p5.

Re: [sage-devel] Sage 4.4.1 build failures with gcc 4.4.1 on SUSE 11.2

2010-05-17 Thread Paul Leopardi
Hi all, make clean make does not work the way I expected it to. I expected it to clean out my existing build of sage and start again. Instead, make clean outputs: echo Deleted spkg/build Deleted spkg/build rm -rf spkg/build mkdir -p spkg/build echo Deleted spkg/archive Deleted spkg/archive rm

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.4.1 build failures with gcc 4.4.1 on SUSE 11.2

2010-05-17 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 05/17/10 05:30 PM, Jaap Spies wrote: Paul Leopardi wrote: Thanks, Georg, I moved -lm to just before -o test in the makefile for symmetrica-2.0.p5, used tar zcf to creat a replacement spkg, and the make now continues past symmetrica-2.0.p5. The make is still running. I have the following

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GMP web sites says Sage relies on GMP

2010-05-17 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 05/17/10 05:32 PM, Nathan O'Treally wrote: On 17 Mai, 12:09, Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net wrote: http://gmplib.org/ says **Projects using GMP** There are many interesting projects that rely on GMP. Here are a few examples, in alphabetic order: # Sage is a free mathematics

Re: [sage-devel] Sage 4.4.1 build failures with gcc 4.4.1 on SUSE 11.2

2010-05-17 Thread William Stein
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Paul Leopardi paul.leopa...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi all, make clean make does not work the way I expected it to. I expected it to clean out my existing build of sage and start again. Instead, make clean outputs: Use make distclean. William echo Deleted

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GMP web sites says Sage relies on GMP

2010-05-17 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 05/18/10 12:05 AM, Bill Hart wrote: I heard Iceland is a good place to go: http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/iceland-worlds-first-free-speech-haven Iceland was about the only country that would tolerate the late Bobby Fischer (chess player). Since he played his most famous match there (vs

[sage-devel] Re: GMP web sites says Sage relies on GMP

2010-05-17 Thread Bill Hart
On 18 May, 00:57, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: On 05/17/10 05:32 PM, Nathan O'Treally wrote: On 17 Mai, 12:09, Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net  wrote: http://gmplib.org/ says **Projects using GMP** There are many interesting projects that rely on GMP.

[sage-devel] Re: GMP web sites says Sage relies on GMP

2010-05-17 Thread Bill Hart
News just in is they are planning a much bigger eruption at a nearby volcano: http://en.vedur.is/earthquakes-and-volcanism/earthquakes/myrdalsjokull/ Some guy has been warning about this since 1999: http://www.evropusamvinna.is/Apps/WebObjects/HI.woa/swdocument/1015721/Sturkell_etal_2009b.pdf

[sage-devel] Re: GMP web sites says Sage relies on GMP

2010-05-17 Thread Jason Grout
On 05/17/2010 05:16 PM, Bill Hart wrote: In fact, no prominent notice was made on the GMP website regarding the license of the 30 odd lines of patches that we did apply to MPIR. Does Sage have a clear, prominent statement about the license of patches posted to trac? Say, unless otherwise

[sage-devel] Re: GMP web sites says Sage relies on GMP

2010-05-17 Thread Bill Hart
If the author of the patch is the one that puts it there, surely it is up to them to make any necessary statements about what license they want? BTW, I think the relevant sections of the GPL seem to be section 5 (and that of the LGPL sections 3, 4, 5). http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html

[sage-devel] Trac activity index

2010-05-17 Thread Jason Grout
There are two new reports on trac that give a sense for activity in the community: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/report/35 (over the previous 6 months) http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/report/36 (over the previous month) It's kind of fun to play with the reports. Thanks, Jason --