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82? Is that including the one I compiled (yes, it was me!) for George Boyle?
If anyones got a copy...???
I've got a .DSK copy.
Bob Wilkinson.
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From: Robert Wilkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: Fred Magazine Web Pages
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82? Is that including the one I compiled (yes, it was me!) for George
Boyle?
If
David L wrote.
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82? Is that including the one I compiled (yes, it was me!) for George
Boyle?
If anyones got a copy...???
I've got a .DSK copy.
Bob Wilkinson.
Upload it if you like - so long as George or Colin doesnt care :)
I've just had a look, and 82
Tut tut ... did anyone get any permission from FredSoft?
I think not!
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Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 11:07 PM
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David L wrote.
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Hmmm ... still got issue 83 partly burried on my hard drive
shame i never had chance to finish it... and f**k all material didnt help :(
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From: Robert Wilkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: Fred
On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Aley Keprt wrote:
So, Watcom might be ANSI, and still not comatible with others. When we
look at it on binary (object file) level.
Silly question maybe, but why would we care about compatability between
compilers' object files if we've got the source?
--
Stuart Brady
Okay, it's 1:1. Who's next.?
2 Against.
make that 3:1 against. I beleive C++ to be over-bloated with stuff not
everyone needs. I've never used the likes of Templates or freindly functions
in my life. In fact, I don't think I have even used operational overloading,
yet. I prefer to use C
On Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 11:20:26PM +0100, Stuart Brady wrote:
Silly question maybe, but why would we care about compatability between
compilers' object files if we've got the source?
Well, if you have something which takes five hours to compile on
your machine or 20 minutes to download the
I wonder if C for CP/M was so simple too?
And, aren't there at least two C compilers for Sam?
I think SAM-C is derived from Small-C that goes way
back to Dr Dobb's Journal in the late 70's. Was the
Sam version a re-write or a port?
Andy
On Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 11:20:26PM +0100, Stuart Brady wrote:
Silly question maybe, but why would we care about compatability between
compilers' object files if we've got the source?
Well, if you have something which takes five hours to compile on
your machine or 20 minutes to download
But, how many operating systems and device drivers are built in C++?
(and yes, before you say something, I know that there are a couple...)
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From: Aley Keprt [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 12:38 PM
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject:
make that 3:1 against. I beleive C++ to be over-bloated with stuff not
everyone needs. I've never used the likes of Templates or freindly
functions
in my life. In fact, I don't think I have even used operational
overloading,
yet. I prefer to use C in a tidy, encapsulated way...
You probably
From: Aley Keprt [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
You probably missed the lessons I have at university.
Yeah.. I spent to much time surfing the net...
I spent several semesters with object oriented **anything** ;-)))
Don't get me wrong: the theory behind OOP, itself, is exellent. Maybe I am a
From: Aley Keprt [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
You probably missed the lessons I have at university.
Yeah.. I spent to much time surfing the net...
I wanted to say 'had', not 'have'.
You probably don't think (as I do) that hi-level programming is generally
better than low-level
Templates, classes, inheritance or at least usage of virtual methods is very
strong tool
for programmers.
Of course, you can do anything like this better or less in C or asm, but if
you are familiar with the theory of OOP,
you have no reason to not use C++.
Agreed. When I'm trying to write
But, how many operating systems and device drivers are built in C++?
(and yes, before you say something, I know that there are a couple...)
This is unfair.
You very probably know than C++ is not intended to be used for writing
device drivers, and saying this.
C++ is for applications, and I
Stuart Brady wrote:
IIRC, SimCoupe has forked into ports for Windows, DOS, Mac, and UNIX.
This is turning into a major problem, IMO.
Well, a temporary fork to be joined back up again. I've stripped it all
down, removed some stuff and added lots more back in. I'm aiming for a
common core set
OK. I admit it. I'm wrong.
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From: Aley Keprt [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[snip stuff about C++ and C]
WOOHOO!! :)
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From: Simon Owen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 3:37 PM
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: RE: SAM 2000?
Stuart Brady wrote:
IIRC, SimCoupe has forked into ports for Windows, DOS, Mac, and UNIX.
This is turning
Aley Keprt wrote:
This is unfair.
You very probably know than C++ is not intended to be used for writing
device drivers, and saying this.
Actually, all but one of my kernel-mode drivers are written in C++! It's
harder work as you have to start by defining your own new/delete operators,
but
Issue One was done in June 1990.
Kind of lost track when it stopped getting produced, but I never got to see
issue 82 so I'd be over the moon to see it go up. Given Mr Boyles
contribution to the SAM scene, I don't think he'll be complaining...
C.
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On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, David L wrote:
82? Is that including the one I compiled (yes, it was me!) for George Boyle?
If anyones got a copy...???
I got a copy. However given my sub ran out on issue 80, and I'd just
resubscribed only to see the whole thing disappear, I was needless to say
hesitant
Stuart Brady wrote:
IIRC, SimCoupe has forked into ports for Windows, DOS, Mac, and UNIX.
This is turning into a major problem, IMO.
Well, a temporary fork to be joined back up again. I've stripped it all
down, removed some stuff and added lots more back in. I'm aiming for a
common
Dave,
just because 1 person is overreacting against something you wrote doesn't
mean he speaks for everyone...
Stick around for a bit longer, ignore him... I'm sure there are others like
me on this list who haven't responded to your previous posts but who don't
necessarily agree with Aley...
Aley Keprt wrote:
This is unfair.
You very probably know than C++ is not intended to be used for writing
device drivers, and saying this.
Actually, all but one of my kernel-mode drivers are written in C++! It's
harder work as you have to start by defining your own new/delete
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