Re: CSIntro - Allergy or Herxheimers? - General Advise Please

2001-07-09 Thread Nick Grant
Hi Cheryl Look up www.goodnews.co.nz this guy I know fixed his CFS using this form of Olive leaf. hey, I have no vested interest in this, just passing this info along to you. He was bedridden totally. Just cleaning his teeth was a major effort! Tracy - Original Message -

Re: CSGenerators and Methods

2001-07-09 Thread Leo Keaveney
Hi all, Thank you Roger. Leo - Original Message - From: rogalt...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 8:22 PM Subject: Re: CSGenerators and Methods In a message dated 7/8/01 12:34:20 PM EST, leo.keave...@oceanfree.net writes: Subj: Re:

CSFwd: Re: CSOTGENERIC CO-OP

2001-07-09 Thread billvan
Yep, I got my beta test products several weeks ago. Everything that I have ordered since then has arrived without a problem. question: I signed up for the co-op beta-test and never received my test kit. Neiher did the 3 people I got to sign up for it. The co-op sent a newsletter

CSvirus removal

2001-07-09 Thread Quietcove
LeavesFor those on the list who are not conversant with removing viruses, please visit; http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/tools.list.html You can download specific tools to remove kak worm and other viruses for free. Hope that helps. quietcove -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for

CSre: Re: CSOTGENERIC CO-OP

2001-07-09 Thread svr999a
I was an early signup and never received mine. Steve Radcliff ** Original Subject: Re: CSOTGENERIC CO-OP ** Original Sender: G. T. four_10_g...@hotmail.com ** Original Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 05:04:10 + ** Original Message follows... htmlDIV PBRBR/P/DIV DIV/DIV DIV/DIV DIV/DIV

Re: CSIntro - Allergy or Herxheimers? - General Advise Please

2001-07-09 Thread Stephen Hessler
Hello, tried this goodnews.co.nz but all one gets is multiple listing of sites and where does one go from there? Stephen K. Hessler, N.M.D. HC 1 Box 175 Centerville, MO 63633 573-924-2254 (usually home after 8 pm)

Re: CSOTGENERIC CO-OP

2001-07-09 Thread Chip Hoyle
I didn't sign up for the beta test, but did place an order over two weeks ago and have yet to receive it. The site says allow 2 weeks for shipping. Today makes 18 days and no stuff yet. I am wondering if the co-op is for real about now. Chip Hoyle G. T. wrote: question: I signed up

Re: CS Worms

2001-07-09 Thread Marshall Dudley
Best of my recollection, worms are not killed by CS. Marshall rogalt...@aol.com wrote: List: A neighbor who has been using my CS for about a year ask me if it would work for his dog who has worms. I told him I don't have a clue. Anybody know one way or another? Roger -- The silver-list is

Re: CS Worms

2001-07-09 Thread Marshall Dudley
I have found diatomaceous earth to be very effective for intestinal worms in pets. Marshall brooks bradley wrote: In our canine evaluations involving CS and multicelled parasites/pathogen-inducing multicelled life forms.we achieved NO detectable control. Others may have

RE: CSGenerators and Methods

2001-07-09 Thread Ode Coyote
I've found thet if the water is too hot, it will make a golden CS. About 80 to 110F degrees seems to be the magic range. Ken At 05:57 PM 7/8/01 -0400, you wrote: I made CS one night with distilled water boiling it on the stove and then making it with a Beck purifier for 30 minutes. I set it

Re: CSGenerators and Methods

2001-07-09 Thread Chip Hoyle
Leo, I am currently using colloidal gold. I used for about a month several months ago. It cost so much that I had to gather together all of the stuff to generate it myself. I have found that the most profound effect is on my mood. I seems to keep me happy and stress free. I have less

Re: CSVirus

2001-07-09 Thread Marshall Dudley
A file by the name of Colloidal silver.mbx would be the index file for the Colloidal Silver mailbox when using Eudora. If you delete this file you will lose your mailbox I believe. You may want to take a look at this link which I think outlines how to get the index file rebuilt:

Re: CSDist H2O2

2001-07-09 Thread Marshall Dudley
Ode Coyote wrote: Salt water fish are not salty. That is an interesting observation. Especially since in school they taught that all animals have salt in their blood because they evolved from ocean fish at some point in time, and fish lived in salt water. If fish blood is not salty, that

Re: CSGenerators and Methods

2001-07-09 Thread Ode Coyote
Storing cold too fast tends to make the CS change color even to a murkey violet. Ken At 10:20 PM 7/8/01 EDT, you wrote: In a message dated 7/8/01 6:33:38 PM EST, bober...@swbell.net writes: Roger; WHY do you boil the water It is not needed. The gold color says large

Re: CSVirus

2001-07-09 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Morning Marshall, At 10:20 AM 07/09/2001 -0400, you wrote: A file by the name of Colloidal silver.mbx would be the index file for the Colloidal Silver mailbox when using Eudora. In the version of Eudora I am using, 4.3, the MBX file is the actual mailbox - data file. For each associated

Re: CSVirus

2001-07-09 Thread Marshall Dudley
I believe he is referring to the file mod for unix systems. They are rwx-rwx-rwx, which stands for read write and execute for the owner of the file, anyone in the owner's group, and anyone. This is set by the mod command in unix. Micorsoft products have a similar thing, which is controlled by

Re: CSHerxheimer's response

2001-07-09 Thread Marshall Dudley
Herx is also called a healing crisis. Bascially if a person has any type of chronic infection, the pathogens are usually able to hide from the immune system rather well. Once you kill the pathogens they are no longer able to hide, and also if they are bacteria, they will spit open and spill

Re: CS[Fwd: Autoresponse to: Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story!]

2001-07-09 Thread Marshall Dudley
Tai-Pan wrote: Info for listers, This in info on how to detect and remove the hybris virus, also known as snow white. The web site sexyfun is not a porn site. :-) This virus is again making its rounds. Bless you, Bob Lee AGAIN? I don't think a day has gone by in the last year that I

Re: CSIntro - Allergy or Herxheimers? - General Advise Please

2001-07-09 Thread Marshall Dudley
I get an unable to find that page error with that url. Marshall Nick Grant wrote: Hi Cheryl Look up www.goodnews.co.nz this guy I know fixed his CFS using this form of Olive leaf. hey, I have no vested interest in this, just passing this info along to you. He was bedridden totally. Just

Re: CSVirus

2001-07-09 Thread Marshall Dudley
Wayne Fugitt wrote: Morning Marshall, At 10:20 AM 07/09/2001 -0400, you wrote: A file by the name of Colloidal silver.mbx would be the index file for the Colloidal Silver mailbox when using Eudora. In the version of Eudora I am using, 4.3, the MBX file is the actual mailbox - data

Re: CSIntro - Allergy or Herxheimers? - General Advise Please

2001-07-09 Thread Marshall Dudley
You have some kind of encoding turned on so your message will not display in Netscape. Marshall Stephen Hessler wrote: ÿþ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to:

Re: CSVirus

2001-07-09 Thread Marshall Dudley
Probably because in Unix is referenced by rw rw rw, which works out to 666 (when using the mod command where the r is 4, w is 2 and x is 1), and of course 666 is the mark of the Beast. Marshall James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: Thanks much Marshall, But there has to be a joke here somewhere; it

RE: CSVirus

2001-07-09 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Thanks much Marshall, But there has to be a joke here somewhere; it was in Chuck's tag line. What am I missing? James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 8:46 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re:

RE: CSDist H2O2

2001-07-09 Thread JudytheK
I have always considered salt water fish to be salty -- and in proportions fairly similar to our own blood, which tastes salty too. With all those minerals, etc, why wouldn't it be? You have to taste the fish raw, and not at meal time, I would think. -Original Message- From: Marshall

Re: CSGenerators and Methods

2001-07-09 Thread Marshall Dudley
I just reviewed that site. I find one discrepancy though. The articles the site shows for the efficacy of colloidal gold are using 15 or more mg of gold a day (and a CG of 1000 or higher PPM). The gold they offer is 10 ppm. Thus to duplicate the quantity taken in the studies would require 1.5

Re: CSIntro - Allergy or Herxheimers? - General Advise Please

2001-07-09 Thread Robert L. Berger
Stephen; When you post all I ever receive is three strange characters. Why??? Ole Bob Stephen Hessler wrote: ÿþ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to:

Re: CSGenerators and Methods

2001-07-09 Thread Arthur Rambo
Chip, when you say that you had to gather all the equipment yourself, do you mean that a different type of equipment is needed other than the kind we use for CS? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an

Re: CSOTGENERIC CO-OP

2001-07-09 Thread Nina Silver, Ph.D.
- Original Message - From: Chip Hoyle cho...@hampsuites.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 9:36 AM Subject: Re: CSOTGENERIC CO-OP I didn't sign up for the beta test, but did place an order over two weeks ago and have yet to receive it. The site says allow 2

Re: CSOTGENERIC CO-OP

2001-07-09 Thread Wwench9
I got my beta-test no problem. As with any new endeavor it may take some time for all the kinks to shake out. Ain't it grand how we're all so jaded and cynical? Jules -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest

Re: CSVirus

2001-07-09 Thread CKing001
James, I normally don't explain, and in this case I'm not really sure, but I believe that this unix command removes access privileges to a file for everybody. Chuck Rebel without a clue! On Sun, 8 Jul 2001 21:57:47 -0600, James Osbourne,

Re: CSColloidal Gold

2001-07-09 Thread G. T.
I can attest to these effects as well- CG has helped my arthitis immensely and my attention span is longer. GT From: Chip Hoyle Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSGenerators and Methods Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 10:16:30 -0400

Re: CSHerxheimer's response

2001-07-09 Thread G. T.
Thank you for this, Marshall. I asked because I just started using a zapper and am covered from head to toe in a red bumpy rash. Guess I'll just keep zapping and see what happens. From: Marshall Dudley Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:

Re: CSVirus

2001-07-09 Thread Harsha Godavari
Nina: Some of the anti-virus programs quarantine the infected file and wait for you to give permission to delete it. You could configure you AV to automatically delete the infection, the trouble with that being you have no idea whch files were deleted. Do a web search for kak-worm and you

Re: CSGenerators and Methods

2001-07-09 Thread Chip Hoyle
Arthur, My generator setup for colloidal gold is an an underwater arc powered by a 15kv 60ma neon sign transformer. I am currently experimenting with different size batch containers of 1 qt and 1 gal. I'm not aware of anyone producing CS by this method. Ole Bob has tested this method for CS

Re: CSVirus

2001-07-09 Thread CKing001
Yeah, that's it! I do hate when they need to be explained, but I dood it anyway Chuck Lt. Commander Data--your plastic pal who's fun to be with ! On Mon, 09 Jul 2001 11:39:18 -0400, Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com wrote: Probably

Re: CSGenerators and Methods

2001-07-09 Thread Frank Key
Chip wrote: My generator setup for colloidal gold is an an underwater arc powered by a 15kv 60ma neon sign transformer. I have measured the particle size of the colloidal gold produced using this technique. The size of the particles produced is typically 70 -90 nm diameter. frank key --

RE: CSDist H2O2

2001-07-09 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
I think what he means is that the salt content of fish blood is lower than the salt content of the ocean; so there is a balancing act going on, just like than in our bodies which keeps the electrolytes within a narrow range regardless of the dissolved solids within fairly broad limits in the water

RE: CSVirus

2001-07-09 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
I knew It had to add up to 666 somehow, but I am unix ignorant. Thanks. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 9:39 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSVirus Probably because in Unix is

Re: CSOTGENERIC CO-OP

2001-07-09 Thread CKing001
Yeah, they're for real. They got swamped with orders and are shaking out their system, not to mention that they got sabatoged at Topica and had to reform on yahoo. When you get in at the ground floor, expect growing pains. I received my beta-order ok. I'm waiting for the product list to

RE: CSVirus

2001-07-09 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Thanks for the exception to your rule, I laughed when I read it because I know it had to be funny; then I figured out why. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: cking...@nycap.rr.com [mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 11:55 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com

RE: CSColloidal Gold

2001-07-09 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
I wonder if it might make anything else longer….Hmmm. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: G. T. [mailto:four_10_g...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 11:59 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSColloidal Gold I can attest to these effects as well- CG has

Re: CSGenerators and Methods

2001-07-09 Thread Chip Hoyle
I am not aware of any studies using a lower dosage. If my memory serves me, this study measured increases in IQ over a period of time while using 30mg per day of colloidal gold. I can not comment on the superiority, or lack thereof, of arc produced colloidal gold vs. any other type. The arc

Re: CSOTGENERIC CO-OP

2001-07-09 Thread Chip Hoyle
To all, Pardon my cynicism. I'm glad to hear that the co-op is indeed for real. What a concept! Chip Hoyle wwen...@aol.com wrote: I got my beta-test no problem. As with any new endeavor it may take some time for all the kinks to shake out. Ain't it grand how we're all so jaded and

Re: CSColloidal Gold

2001-07-09 Thread Chip Hoyle
G.T., How long have you been taking CG and at what dose per day? Chip G. T. wrote: I can attest to these effects as well- CG has helped my arthitis immensely and my attention span is longer. GT From: Chip Hoyle Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re:

Re: CSGenerators and Methods

2001-07-09 Thread Chip Hoyle
Thanks Frank! Chip Frank Key wrote: Chip wrote: My generator setup for colloidal gold is an an underwater arc powered by a 15kv 60ma neon sign transformer. I have measured the particle size of the colloidal gold produced using this technique. The size of the particles produced is

Re: CSIntro - Allergy or Herxheimers? - General Advise Please

2001-07-09 Thread CKing001
There is a http://www.goodnews.org.nz/ Chuck The meek may inherit the earth, but it's the grumpy who get promoted ! On Mon, 09 Jul 2001 11:04:09 -0400, Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com wrote: I get an unable to find that page error with that

CSThe Herxheimer Effect

2001-07-09 Thread Terry Chamberlin
The Herxheimer Effect Named after German physician Karl Herxheimer, M.D., Herxheimer's Effect, also called the Janish-Herxheimer effect (or Herx, for short) basically can be a side effect of any antibiotic or antibiotic-like treatment, be it Grapefruit Seed Extract (GSE), pharmaceutical, herbal,

Re: CSColloidal Gold

2001-07-09 Thread Leo Keaveney
Hi all, Gold is noted for being non reactive. Leo - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 7:57 PM Subject: RE: CSColloidal Gold I wonder if it might make anything else longer..Hmmm.

RE: CSOTGENERIC CO-OP

2001-07-09 Thread Roger Daymude
I like the part about them making a killing on the shipping. Lets see now, 10,000 orders at $3.00 more an order than the computation, Gee that's only a $30,000 profit a day on shipping alone, they don't have to make much on the product. Is Jon trying to add a few Mill to his already 30 million

RE: CSOTGENERIC CO-OP

2001-07-09 Thread Roger Daymude
I thought they eliminated me from the Beta test so I ordered 4 bottles only to get the Beta ordered also. So now I have about 10 bottles and my Naturopathic Doctor told me to wait a few months to take them, lol They are for real, to Real sometimes. Raji -- The silver-list is a moderated

Re: CSOTGENERIC CO-OP

2001-07-09 Thread Robert L. Berger
Roger Daymude; Your ignorance is showing !! I suggest that you look into shipping costs. The 6 pounds for the two liter bottles for the gatorade test is about $8.50 plus $1.34 for the box. Now add in the plastic peanuts, the label, and taking them to the post office is not free. Maybe I better

RE: CSOTGENERIC CO-OP

2001-07-09 Thread Roger Daymude
If your competitor can do it for $3.00 then your doing something wrong, besides I don't mind it, it's just another way to look at someone telling you they are doing you a favor. I have a lot of them, they call themselves friends. Lol I'll not debate this any more, since I'm not there in their

RE: CSPregnant or nursing moms

2001-07-09 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
The only information I have seen on this subject is an anecdotal report that is buried somewhere in this list archives; it had the flavor of a true story, but sometimes so does the evening news... The story: Couple could not get pregnant. It was not surprise that the man could not, but his wife

RE: CSGenerators and Methods

2001-07-09 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Hi Chip, Can you remember any pointers to the gold/IQ study? James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Chip Hoyle [mailto:cho...@hampsuites.com] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 1:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSGenerators and Methods I am not aware of any studies

RE: CSOTGENERIC CO-OP

2001-07-09 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Doesn't some of the 3 dollars get used for shipping? James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Roger Daymude [mailto:r...@midohio.net] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 5:48 PM To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' Subject: RE: CSOTGENERIC CO-OP I like the part about them making a killing on

Re: CSGenerators and Methods

2001-07-09 Thread Marshall Dudley
http://colloidalgold.com/today.htm James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: Hi Chip, Can you remember any pointers to the gold/IQ study? James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Chip Hoyle [mailto:cho...@hampsuites.com] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 1:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Re: CSOTGENERIC CO-OP

2001-07-09 Thread CKing001
ROFLMAO! Both these guys are talking about different things! One is commenting on Dr Jon's co-op. Bob is talking about the CS test! Hee,hee,hee... OMGawd, I can't take it any more... Hawww!! Chuck One day I shall burst my bud of calm and

CSColloidal gold

2001-07-09 Thread Frank Key
After reading the recent posts, it seems there may be some confusion regarding how much gold was consumed. It looks like some are interpreting the 30 mg of colloidal gold to mean 30 mg of actual gold content. I believe a case can be made that the 30 mg refers to the amount of the colloidal

Re: CSIntro - Allergy or Herxheimers? - General Advise Please

2001-07-09 Thread Stephen Hessler
Bob, I don't know anything about those strange characters. My grisoft says I am virus free. I have html turned off and cookies turned off. If you find out any thing let me know. Stephen K. Hessler, N.M.D. HC 1 Box 175 Centerville, MO 63633 573-924-2254 (usually home after 8 pm) -- The

Re: CSOTGENERIC CO-OP

2001-07-09 Thread larry tankersley
Hey OLE Bob and I ge grumpy sometimes ; ).And as I said there is nothing wrong with slick plans to make a buck it's up to me to check things out. One mans wholesale' is anothers RETAIL. Shipping cost aside [10 to1 Dr J isn't sitting there licking stamps... [don't think he went that far in his

RE: CSFwd: Re: CSOTGENERIC CO-OP

2001-07-09 Thread Ed Kasper
I signed up and never received anything just the newsletter. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: bill...@cheerful.com [mailto:bill...@cheerful.com] Sent: Monday,

Re: CSFwd: Re: CSOTGENERIC CO-OP

2001-07-09 Thread Tel Tofflemire
Ed Kasper wrote: I signed up and never received anything just the newsletter. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: bill...@cheerful.com

CSPregnant or nursing moms

2001-07-09 Thread Daniel Hernandez
I have a question? Does any one have any idea if Cs is safe for nursing or pregnant moms and the baby. My wife is a student midwife and this question has come up. At this point, we are not willing to suggest its use to any expecting or lactating moms till we find out. Note: the concern is