Re: CSDairy cows

2007-04-30 Thread Kirsteen Wright
On 4/29/07, jessie70 jessi...@optonline.net wrote: I would love to be a vegetarian again, but after over a decade, I started having too many problems. I spoke with others who concur that they got run down on a veg diet. Part of it is people tend to eat more carbs Yes in many ways I would

Re: CSMelatonin - OT

2007-04-30 Thread Dee
I think I am having these ingredients in undenatured whey. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Cinder Ella Date: 29/04/2007 20:11:14 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMelatonin - OT I agree with your statement that it's ridiculous to spend over $100 on a sleep aid.

Re: CSRe: Gatorade

2007-04-30 Thread Ode Coyote
I like Top Ramen soup, but there isn't any that doesn't have MSG in it. That stuff acts like a dose of amphetamine on me, not that I mind...at the proper time of day. [I'd actually rather have a few crystals of Meth in the morning coffee than caffeine..no jitters or headaches with Meth and

Re: CSRe: Gatorade

2007-04-30 Thread Ode Coyote
The Agyria problem is not so much silver salts as it is way too much silver over too short a time period. When making CS with salt and no controls, there's no easy way to tell how strong it will come out. Every batch will be wildly different. There is also some controversy as to 'where and

Re: CSMelatonin - OT

2007-04-30 Thread Michael Zangari
The most powerful sleep inducer for me is free. It's reflexology, the pressure points to release melatonin work within five minutes for me. It between the thumb and fore-finger or ankle. Go as far back on the top of the hand as you can go. The point is about a quarter inch from the bone.

CSNancy's Diary

2007-04-30 Thread mukta
Hi Terry, I have a friend with retrobulbar neuritis and possibly MS. Please send this diary to me so that I would possibly find tips for him. Simeon - SCENA - Единственото БЕЗПЛАТНО списание за мобилни комуникации и технологии. http://www.bgscena.com/ -- The

CSRe: alfalfa for mystery skin disease- Morgellons

2007-04-30 Thread Charles Marcus
HE USED THE SUN POWDERED DETERGENT WITH BLEACH. I'm wondering if the magic is the bleach... I have heard before of near miracles using pure Chlorox bleach (not the stuff with anything addd, just the pure bleach). Worth a try to see if it does the same thing. This is an interesting

Re: CSTO TERRY - In memory of Nancy

2007-04-30 Thread Tel Tofflemire
I have a friend, who has a 40yr. something daughter with MS. Please send it to me terry. Thanks ! telt...@cableone.net Tel Tofflemire Terry Chamberlin wrote: For those of you whom I have not sent it to, I have a copy of her 2-year journal that she kept as she vanquished MS with CS.

Re: CSRe: Gatorade

2007-04-30 Thread Gerard Payne
Ode, sounds like you were reading the same stuff as I. The difference between the naturally occurring MSG and the MSG that is added to foods is that the naturally occurring variety is bound up chemically as glutamic acid or something like that. Bottom line for me is I am willing to trust Mother

RE: CStrytophan to sol

2007-04-30 Thread Dan Nave
Yes, you have to watch out for the Quack when you go to Quackwatch. I think that is why they named it Quackwatch... Dan From: zeb caffe [mailto:jamaki...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 11:17 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CStrytophan to sol

CSvegetarian sleeplessness - sandbag breathing

2007-04-30 Thread Faith Saint Francis
Zeb Caffe wrote: There was mention of an amino acid sleep aid. Being a trial-and-error vegetarian myself, I have a slight sleeping problem also. I my case one of the reasons is -yeah! have a good grin-: Moonlit nights. Sleeplessness during the moon-zenith seems to have to do with my Zodiac

Re: CSsilver in medicine

2007-04-30 Thread Marshall Dudley
I have heard of it helping true MS. However I believe most people who are now diagnosed with MS are actually suffering from neurotoxin poisoning. CS will not help with them until the toxins are eliminated. The most prominent neurotoxins are aspartame AKA Nuetraweet and MSG. Even after

Re: CSDiatomaceous Earth

2007-04-30 Thread Marshall Dudley
I don't know what the pool grade looks like, but the good stuff is a fine white powder, like flour or corn starch. Marshall Roger Barker wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to source some food grade diatomaceous earth down here in New Zealand and keep coming up with the pool filter heat treated

Re: CSMelatonin - OT

2007-04-30 Thread Marshall Dudley
sol wrote: Interesting they mention (such as the outbreak of severe illness caused by a similar natural substance, tryptophan, once sold as a sleeping pill). without mentioning that the tryptophan involved in that outbreak was contaminated and the problems were not due at all to the

RE: CSRe: alfalfa for mystery skin disease- Morgellons

2007-04-30 Thread jessie70
I recently read that chlorox bleach can be used on athlete's foot. Jess -Original Message- From: Charles Marcus [mailto:tansta...@libertytrek.org] Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 7:23 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: alfalfa for mystery skin disease- Morgellons HE USED THE SUN

RE: CSMelatonin - OT

2007-04-30 Thread jessie70
The point between the thumb and forefinger is supposed to be for constipation. Where is the point on the ankle? Thanks, Jess -Original Message- From: Michael Zangari [mailto:truez2...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 6:40 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re:

RE: CSMelatonin - OT

2007-04-30 Thread jessie70
Dee are you taking the undenatured whey at night before bed to help sleep? Jess -Original Message- From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 5:53 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMelatonin - OT I think I am having these ingredients in

RE: CSRe: alfalfa for mystery skin disease- Morgellons

2007-04-30 Thread Dan Nave
Well, it is also not clear what Color Safe Bleach is. Can anyone find out what the actual ingredient is? Interestingly, this info on using the Sun detergent and alfalfa is all over the net. Dan -Original Message- From: Charles Marcus [mailto:tansta...@libertytrek.org] Sent: Monday,

CSveg diet

2007-04-30 Thread jessie70
Kirsteen, For yrs I heard that Spirulina is a good veg protein and of course you can combine beans with rice to make a complete protein. I tried eating Quinoa and Amaranth grains with veggies. The Japanese eat a lot of tofu with rice. But they grew up on this diet and so it is the building blocks

CSRe: Dairy cows

2007-04-30 Thread Charles Marcus
Yes in many ways I would love to go back to a vegetarian diet but my problem is the carbs. I have a severe carbohydrate intolerance. If anyone has any sugestions for a truly low carb but fairly high protein diet, I'd love to hear them because I really would love to be able to eat that way.

Re: CSMelatonin - OT

2007-04-30 Thread Marshall Dudley
patriot2...@mindspring.com wrote: For Doris and others writing about melatonin, saying, *I use the Somalife gHP and I sleep like a baby with no side effects and no down time in the morning and the amino acids do many other things in my body besides just make me sleep better.* I am coming in

Re: CSrun down from being a vegetarian

2007-04-30 Thread Cinder Ella
I take supplements every day but then I took supplements when I was eating meat too. We all need supplements because this world is becoming so messed up and we as humans are being more stressed. Doris - Original Message From: zeb caffe jamaki...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com

RE: CSrun down from being a vegetarian

2007-04-30 Thread jessie70
Yes I was taking B-12 and B vitamins with no change. The vitamins are nothing like eating a piece of meat for my constitution. Jess -Original Message- From: zeb caffe [mailto:jamaki...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 11:10 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSrun down

CSSleep According to Ayurveda Geopathic Stress in or under where you sleep?

2007-04-30 Thread Wendy
Thought you might find this interesting also if there are any geographic http://www.care2.com/channels/solutions/home/108 snipIn the home, geopathic stress can affect your health, especially if you are sleeping over an underground stream or watercourse. Places disturbed by negative energies

Re: CSDairy cows- vegetarian

2007-04-30 Thread Clayton Family
I know of thousands of people who are vegetarian in this country (US) , and dozens personally, though most of my friends are vegetarian, mostly lacto, some vegan. Half of the Indian Subcontinent are lacto vegetarian, though many of them are vegan in practice, due to the higher cost of milk.

Re: CSsilver in medicine-neurotoxins

2007-04-30 Thread Clayton Family
Other potent neurotoxins are from Lyme disease, Red Tide (estuarine sickness), and toxic mold. On Apr 30, 2007, at 8:55 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote: I have heard of it helping true MS. However I believe most people who are now diagnosed with MS are actually suffering from neurotoxin

Re: CSRe: alfalfa for mystery skin disease- Morgellons

2007-04-30 Thread Clayton Family
color safe bleach is usualy an oxygen based bleach, like peroxide, and oxyclean. On Apr 30, 2007, at 9:46 AM, Dan Nave wrote: Well, it is also not clear what Color Safe Bleach is. Can anyone find out what the actual ingredient is? Interestingly, this info on using the Sun detergent and

Re: CSveg diet

2007-04-30 Thread Clayton Family
Many of these symptoms can be from toxins in the body and may have nothing to do with your diet, aside from the toxins in the gentically engineered stuff. On Apr 30, 2007, at 9:53 AM, jessie70 wrote: Kirsteen, For yrs I heard that Spirulina is a good veg protein and of course you can combine

Re: CSDairy cows

2007-04-30 Thread Clayton Family
We have to eat a more low carb diet than we used to too. Another option is to try some enzymes to help break down the stuff that is not being digested. Eating a low carb diet mean tons of vegetables, as far as I have been able to figure out. As in: divide the dinner plate in thirds, and have

Re: CSTO TERRY - In memory of Nancy

2007-04-30 Thread Ekowal459
I would appreciate this account too, thank you for the offer Terry. If I understand correctly that this same woman? did in fact just pass as a result of a car accident recently, my condolences to anyone who knew her also. JD _http://members.youngevity.com/Users/Capacity_

Re: CSDairy cows- vegetarian

2007-04-30 Thread Dee
The thing is, we can all become low on B12 as we age, no matter what we eat. I found I was getting really, really tired and didn't bother with the doctor as I have little faith in them. My husband had been diagnosed with low B12 and I gave him supplements and I thought I would try it too and I

metabolic typing, was Re: CSRe: Dairy cows

2007-04-30 Thread sol
I am a protein type, fast oxidizer, mostly parasympathetic dominant. I am a living example the damage 30 years of trying to be vegetarian, and 10-12 years of trying very hard to be vegan can do to a person of my metabolic type. Heavy soy consumption contributed greatly to that damage. My

Re: CSDiatomaceous Earth

2007-04-30 Thread Dee
Thank heaven for that Marshall, I was having kittens when it was said it is brown, as the one I bought is almost white! Dee ---Original Message--- From: Marshall Dudley Date: 30/04/2007 15:09:15 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDiatomaceous Earth I don't know what the pool

RE: CSMelatonin - OT

2007-04-30 Thread Dee
I tend to eat it between meals when I get hungry! Dee ---Original Message--- From: jessie70 Date: 30/04/2007 14:44:13 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSMelatonin - OT Dee are you taking the undenatured whey at night before bed to help sleep? Jess -Original Message-

RE: CSRe: alfalfa for mystery skin disease- Morgellons

2007-04-30 Thread Jason
The active ingredient in bleach is Sodium hypochlorite which is what you get if you bubble chlorine through sodium hydroxide. It breaks down into water, oxygen and table salt. Some bleach (OK most) also has perfume in it. Best, J. -Original Message- From: Dan Nave

Re: metabolic typing, was Re: CSRe: Dairy cows

2007-04-30 Thread Dee
As far as diet goes, I think humans should follow what nature intended had we no 'civilization' i.e. Meat, veg and fruit with some carbs but not sugar. I feed my dog raw meat because that is what he is supposed to eat, so it follows that people should do the same (without the raw bit uugh!). We

RE: CSRe: alfalfa for mystery skin disease- Morgellons

2007-04-30 Thread Dan Nave
Chlorine is Bleach, but not all Bleach is Chlorine... Color safe bleach implies that it is either not chlorine, or it is somehow modified. Dan -Original Message- From: Jason [mailto:ja...@bulldoghome.com] Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 12:17 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE:

Re: metabolic typing, was Re: CSRe: Dairy cows

2007-04-30 Thread Marshall Dudley
Dee wrote: As far as diet goes, I think humans should follow what nature intended had we no 'civilization' i.e. Meat, veg and fruit with some carbs but not sugar. I agree with refined sugar. But sugars were available in various forms long ago. During Biblical days they

RE: CSDairy cows- vegetarian

2007-04-30 Thread jessie70
I agree with native diet issues. Also we all know that pesticides and modern farming techniques have depleted soil of minerals and caused a high level of toxicity. So veg diet is not always healthy. Couple that with any health problem you may have that could compromise digestion or assimilation

RE: CSDairy cows- vegetarian

2007-04-30 Thread Dan Nave
Many in India are vegetarian because of the high cost of meat. Vegetarians there are of many types, those that will eat unfertilized eggs, those that will eat eggs that are hidden as in a cake, etc... those that will eat only milk products, etc. Indian vegetarians, as a rule, won't eat

CSRe: veg diet

2007-04-30 Thread Charles Marcus
Kirsteen, For yrs I heard that Spirulina is a good veg protein and of course you can combine beans with rice to make a complete protein. I tried eating Quinoa and Amaranth grains with veggies. This works for some, but people who do best on animal proteins do best on ANIMAL proteins. By the

Re: metabolic typing, was Re: CSRe: Dairy cows

2007-04-30 Thread sol
No offense, but it makes me laugh..pre-agriculture, the natural foods were not much like anything us 'modern Western' peoples think of as food. All the veg and fruit we are used to are artifacts of agriculture and hundreds, if not thousands of years of selective breeding for size,

Re: CSRe: veg diet

2007-04-30 Thread sol
Charles Marcus wrote: This works for some, but people who do best on animal proteins do best on ANIMAL proteins. By the way... there is nothing morally superior about a vegetarian diet. The Japanese eat a lot of tofu with rice. Contrary to popular myth, asians traditionally ate very little

RE: CSRe: alfalfa for mystery skin disease- Morgellons

2007-04-30 Thread jessie70
That sounds like a harmless breakdown. Jess -Original Message- From: Jason [mailto:ja...@bulldoghome.com] Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 12:17 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSRe: alfalfa for mystery skin disease- Morgellons The active ingredient in bleach is Sodium

Re: metabolic typing, was Re: CSRe: Dairy cows

2007-04-30 Thread Dee
Well, we do what we can with what we've got I suppose, and make the best of it. Dee ---Original Message--- From: sol Date: 04/30/07 19:27:28 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: metabolic typing, was Re: CSRe: Dairy cows No offense, but it makes me

RE: CSRe: veg diet

2007-04-30 Thread Dan Nave
You wrote: What are you talking about? TVP, Textured Vegetable Protein, is made by squeezing the soybeans to remove excess oil, then grinding to produce an appropriately sized flour, mixed with water and run through an Extrusion Cooker which is like a giant pressure cooker and the cooked soy

Re: CSRe: veg diet

2007-04-30 Thread Pat
It seems odd to me that vegetarians have so many pretend foods. I've seen fake burgers and various other things pretending to be meat. If they want meat, they should just go for the real thing.

Re: CSRe: veg diet

2007-04-30 Thread sol
That isn't quite the way the process is described in The Whole Soy Story. If you can get a copy, and read the pertinent section, I'd appreciate your comments on it. sol Dan Nave wrote: TVP, Textured Vegetable Protein, is made by squeezing the soybeans to remove excess oil, then grinding to

Re: CSRe: veg diet

2007-04-30 Thread Barbara
I agree with you Charles wholeheartedly. After reading The Secret Life of Plants I couldn't look at them the same any more and that was decades ago... Barbara Ain't gonna happen. I don't see what the fuss is about. Plants are living creatures too, and they also have an awareness of

Re: CSsilver in medicine

2007-04-30 Thread Hannah
Another not to be overlooked cause for MS mimicking symptoms is mercury poisoning (amalgams, vaccinations and possible other sources). Hanneke ~ Australia At 11:25 PM 30/04/2007, you wrote: I have heard of it helping true MS. However I believe most people who are now diagnosed with MS are

RE: CSRe: veg diet

2007-04-30 Thread jessie70
Doesn't the high pressure cooking kill nutrients? -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com] Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 2:00 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSRe: veg diet You wrote: What are you talking about? TVP, Textured Vegetable

Re: CSRe: veg diet

2007-04-30 Thread Clayton Family
Ain't gonna happen. I don't see what the fuss is about. Plants are living creatures too, and they also have an awareness of sorts - again, there is nothing morally superior about limiting your diet to plant based foods. **Nor is there anything superior about ovo-lacto vegetarianism, for

Re: CSDiatomaceous Earth

2007-04-30 Thread Roger Barker
Thanks for your input Marshall. If all else fails on the local scene I'll see about importing some from State side. Cheers, Roger B On 1 May, 2007, at 2:08 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote: I don't know what the pool grade looks like, but the good stuff is a fine white powder, like flour or

Re: CSMelatonin - OT: COMMENT

2007-04-30 Thread Brooks Bradley
Hello Marshall, L-Tryptophan powder may be purchased (no prescription required) from Beyond-a-century.com for $15.00 per 100 grams. An absolute BARGAIN when one considers such an amount would cost several hundred dollars in Europe (at present).provided one could

RE: CSMelatonin - OT

2007-04-30 Thread Deborah Gerard
Jess I take the whey in a smoothie in the morning I didn't know you could take it at night to help sleep...I take passionflower that helps alot to fall asleep...thanks debbie jessie70 jessi...@optonline.net wrote:v\:* {behavior:url (#default#vml);} v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url

Re: Fw: RE: CSalfalfa for mystery skin disease- Morgellons

2007-04-30 Thread Deborah Gerard
One more question if I may...what kind of alfalfa tablets were they? What brand..thanks debbie Dan Nave na...@comcast.net wrote: Did he use the Sun powdered laundry detergent with colorsafe bleach or did he only use the alfalfa? Dan mborg...@att.net wrote: More information on my friend

Re: CSNancy's journal

2007-04-30 Thread Carol Ann
Would be an honor to see how a woman such as she overcame such diversity. Boy did I ever admire her courage and tenacity. Smitty papad...@gmail.com wrote: For those of you whom I have not sent it to, I have a copy of her 2-year journal that she kept as she vanquished MS with CS. Contact me

CSLupus

2007-04-30 Thread Dave
BrooksMarshalTerry, or anyone else with some input. I have a good friend who's wife has lupus and was diagnosed six years ago and told she had probably eight years to live. There are a number of autoimmune diseases that have presented and I was wondering since it's autoimmune if CMO

Re: CSDiatomaceous Earth

2007-04-30 Thread Roger Barker
Thanks for the url - at least it's somewhere for the to start. Cheers, Roger B On 1 May, 2007, at 3:48 PM, Marjie wrote: If all else fails on the local scene I'll see about importing some from State side. * Hi Roger, I order mine (food grade) from Nitron. They are

CSMorgellons and alfalfa

2007-04-30 Thread Shirley Reed
Exactly what brand of alfalfa tablets are being used? The only alfalfa tabs I know of do not fit the description of 'large oblong' things, but are small regular tablet sized things for swallowing. So I need to know just what is being used. Will just 25 or so of the regular tablets be enough

Re: CSLupus

2007-04-30 Thread Denise Rollheiser
Interesting about how long people with lupus have to live. and yes, there are various types of lupus, some more virulent than others...BUT my Mom was diagnosed with lupus about 50 years agoshe's still going strong. I have a girlfriend who was diagnosed, in her early 20s...she has been

CSMorgellons again

2007-04-30 Thread Shirley Reed
Additional questions; How long does one need to stay in the 'treated' water? How hot does it need to be? Has anyone tried just washing for a length of time with the water? No tub is available here. tia pj

CSNancy DeLise

2007-04-30 Thread Shirley Reed
So sorry to learn of the passing of this fine lady. She was very forthcoming about her experience with MS and CS, and even now will be helping others. pj

CSDiatomaceous Earth

2007-04-30 Thread Marjie
If all else fails on the local scene I'll see about importing some from State side. * Hi Roger, I order mine (food grade) from Nitron. They are in Arkansas, don't know about shipping to New Zealand. Here is their link.

Re: CSLupus

2007-04-30 Thread Dave
She has ( I think)four other related illnesses and her husband says she is winding down rapidly. Dave Denise Rollheiser wrote: Interesting about how long people with lupus have to live. and yes, there are various types of lupus, some more virulent than others...BUT my Mom was diagnosed

Re: CS In memory of Nancy

2007-04-30 Thread dd611
Could this news in Chicago Tribune be about the Nancy DeLise that we knew? Dennis http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-0704271157apr28,1,1588694.story?track=rss ekowal...@aol.com wrote: I would appreciate this account too, thank you for the offer Terry. If I understand correctly that