Re: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?

2010-04-13 Thread Dok Dallas
SECOND-POSTING First Time was Too-Long to Go...so, Trimmed it Back Some. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hi Dee, Annie, (...others Fearing; Body-Snatch/Brain-Drain, Alien-Invasionetc.) [IF NO

Re: CSwhere is everyone? now - serious CS questions

2010-04-13 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Me too, Del. dee On 12 Apr 2010, at 20:00, Del wrote: My understanding is that reflections of the laser light only come from silver particles, not from silver ions (ok, ions are particles too, but you know what I mean). So if your brew is highly ionic, you will have only a weak tyndall

Re: CSwhere is everyone? now - serious CS questions

2010-04-13 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Well this is the thing Lesley, mine doesn't usually--even in the severe cold weather, so I don't know why this has happened. Maybe it could be the water--although I distill my own under the same circumstances all the time. It does take about four to five hours though, because I have it on

Re: CSwhere is everyone? now - serious CS questions

2010-04-13 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Well the first brew I made - although pale - *was* perfectly clear. The second one was too - until I put in 1 drop of H202 then it went very slightly cloudy. When I put in another drop of H202 it went clear. The first one had a weak tyndall and the second one had a strong tyndall, and they

Re: CSwhere is everyone? now - serious CS questions

2010-04-13 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I think we realise this Neville vbg and I agree with you up to a point. However, I do like to know - if possible - *why* things happen differently at different times. It is just the way I am and quite honestly, I think this is the reason that science has progressed (or not) since time began.

Re: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?

2010-04-13 Thread Annie B Smythe
LMAO Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Dok Dallas wrote: SECOND-POSTING First Time was Too-Long to Go...so, Trimmed it Back Some. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hi Dee, Annie,

Re: CSChemical stabilizers in drug store H2O2

2010-04-13 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Its ok for topical use though. dee On 12 Apr 2010, at 23:52, Christina Mattson wrote: Did you know that the 3% H2O2 that is sold for topical use only at the grocery and discount stores has chemical stabilizers in it? Google Hydrogen Peroxide Therapy Drinking Hydrogen Peroxide or i think

Re: CSRe: CS Making Update

2010-04-13 Thread Ode Coyote
The gatoraide impregnated into the plastic made some photo reactive compounds with the silver. A 3 PPM difference isn't huge and PPM meters not exact nor is fresh CS very stable...and..the gen could be leaking a little power when off, electrodes not precisely in the same position, water

Re: CSwhere is everyone? now - serious CS questions

2010-04-13 Thread Ode Coyote
The laser just gives you some eyeball idea of particle density and size. If you filter by letting the bigguns settle, it'll tell you when it's ready to decant. Also good for playing with the cat while waiting, or shining on the local thugs chest at night for grins and giggles. You know...so

RE: CSwhere is everyone? now - serious CS questions

2010-04-13 Thread Neville Munn
OK, well seeing as I know you're fairly cluey on the subject g, praps you could answer me this then...How does one filter, or decant leaving bigguns behind when there's nothing in the container TO leave behind? What say you then about density and size if I don't have anything 'left behind'

RE: CSwhere is everyone? now - serious CS questions

2010-04-13 Thread Neville Munn
No worries Dee, It's just that EIS seems to have a mind of it's own and will occasionally throw the odd curve ball at you. You're right about the science thing of course, but my experience indicates THIS stuff is not a science, it's an art, and unless the researchers pick up the pace, I don't

Re: CSCS: NitrATE and NitrITE (And Migraines)

2010-04-13 Thread Del
I would just like to mention that I also get the occasional migraine, but that I have discovered taking twenty drops of Herb Farm Cayenne Tincture drives it off within minutes. I am now taking it daily to see if it will stop them from forming in the first place. My wife gets occasional

Re: CSRe: CS Making Update

2010-04-13 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Thanks, Dee. MA From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 9:00:33 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: CS Making Update The only time I got that MA was when I put in 3% H202, so I would guess that this has gotten

RE: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?

2010-04-13 Thread Neville Munn
Now you're touching on a subject that I've been pondering for a while but can't seem to find anything of value to read in the public domain. You mentioned red laser becoming less apparant, but 405nm blue DOES show up. I'm still curious to know if there are any methods of home determination

Re: CSAdding hydrogen peroxide to CS

2010-04-13 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Hi sol, I think you could be right about the rods, because I used a melamine pad and am wondering if some of the melamine stuck to the rods. I've always only used paper towels so as this has happened, I'm thinking that this could be the reason. I will not clean them in future and see what

Re: CSwhere is everyone? now - serious CS questions

2010-04-13 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
It was sitting for 48 hours sol when I noticed it had gone yellow (the 2nd batch) I put in one drop of H202 and thats when it went cloudy. It cleared after adding another drop though, and the ppm went up from 8 to 10ppm. I've noticed that after another day sitting, that the tyndall is now

Re: CSwhere is everyone? now - serious CS questions

2010-04-13 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
So after I put in the second drop of H202 this would have made the particles smaller because I now have a weaker tyndall effect? dee On 12 Apr 2010, at 21:56, Marshall Dudley wrote: Since Tyndall only show up on particles, I would expect any sample with similar ppms to have more tyndall for

Re: CSRe: CS Making Update

2010-04-13 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Thanks, Ode. MA From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, April 13, 2010 3:18:36 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: CS Making Update   The gatoraide impregnated into the plastic made some photo reactive compounds with the silver. A

CSLaser testers

2010-04-13 Thread MaryAnn Helland
LMAO MA From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net Also good for playing with the cat while waiting, or shining on the local thugs chest at night for grins and giggles. You know...so the cat will attack him while he's on edge thinking about

Re: CSwhere is everyone? now - serious CS questions

2010-04-13 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
You're right of course, and I don't think I would have if the status quo hadn't changed. If I get it back to the way it was then I won't need to, but I am hoping that the rod cleaning thing was what caused it ... if not, then its back to the drawing board! dee PS I do miss Wayne and his

RE: CSAdding hydrogen peroxide to CS

2010-04-13 Thread Neville Munn
Try using a taller glass or jar, or incorporate stirring method. Electrodes too close to the bottom. I get that if using a small glass non stirred, don't get it with stirring or taller containers and stirring. N. Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:35:56 -0700 From: chemtrail_...@yahoo.com To:

Re: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?

2010-04-13 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Hi Dok, thanks for the info (when I worked it all out vbg) I found that when I used store bought 3% HP it went a horrible smog grey - but this time I used the 35% and it cleared it up nicely. dee On 13 Apr 2010, at 08:44, Dok Dallas wrote: SECOND-POSTING First Time was Too-Long to Go...so,

Re: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?

2010-04-13 Thread Dave Darrin
Dee Since one drop of 35% is roughly ten times as much as one drop of 3% do you suppose you might have the same results by putting enough of the 3% in to equalize the difference? Dave On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.orgwrote: Hi Dok, thanks for the info (when

Re: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?

2010-04-13 Thread Richard Goodwin
Depends on what else is in the 3% stuff -- if there are stabilizers or any other chemicals, that would really screw things up. Dick From: Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, April 13, 2010 11:37:31 AM Subject: Re: CSwhere is

Re: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?

2010-04-13 Thread Dave Darrin
The way I do it there is no need for such methods but I'm just curious. Mine is always clear without any added protocols. I use a sun tea jar and decant through the spigot so that a good amount is left in the jar for seeding the next batch. I use polarity switching for the stiring (set it and

Re: CSwhere is everyone? now - serious CS questions

2010-04-13 Thread Marshall Dudley
Neville Munn wrote: You'll have silver in the solution with OR without Tyndall. We know they're colloids, but what size are those colloids? OK, let's seriously look at particle size for a moment. Question 1 would be...At what *minimum* size do particles have a tendancy to fall out of

Re: CSAdding hydrogen peroxide to CS

2010-04-13 Thread Sunny
Thank YOU all. I get so many emails, from this list and two others as prolific, that I just cant read them all. But the hand of God, fate, the force, whatever you call it, made me open one mail... which was titled originally 'where is everybody' which led tothis one..and I got the answer to my

Re: CSwhere is everyone? now - serious CS questions

2010-04-13 Thread sol
Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: It was sitting for 48 hours sol when I noticed it had gone yellow (the 2nd batch) I put in one drop of H202 and thats when it went cloudy. It cleared after adding another drop though, and the ppm went up from 8 to 10ppm. I've noticed that after another day

Re: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?

2010-04-13 Thread sol
Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi Dok, thanks for the info (when I worked it all out vbg) I found that when I used store bought 3% HP it went a horrible smog grey - but this time I used the 35% and it cleared it up nicely. dee Have you taken into account that the 35% is over 10 times more

Re: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?

2010-04-13 Thread sol
Dave Darrin wrote: Dee Since one drop of 35% is roughly ten times as much as one drop of 3% do you suppose you might have the same results by putting enough of the 3% in to equalize the difference? Dave I can't believe it, LOL. I waited and waited for someone else to mention the strength

Re: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?

2010-04-13 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I did put in three drops of the 3% Dave and when it went grey, I put in some more but it went nearly black! I assumed it was because there is something else in the 3%. dee On 13 Apr 2010, at 16:37, Dave Darrin wrote: Dee Since one drop of 35% is roughly ten times as much as one drop of

Re: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?

2010-04-13 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Me too Davenormally. This has only happened the last two batches. Usually I have no residue in the jar - which stays clean, and I only wipe the electrodes with a tissue as they have some grey mainly on one. I too use reverse polarity. dee On 13 Apr 2010, at 18:00, Dave Darrin wrote:

Re: CSwhere is everyone? now - serious CS questions

2010-04-13 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Golly, I wish I was brainier! dee On 13 Apr 2010, at 18:19, Marshall Dudley wrote: Neville Munn wrote: You'll have silver in the solution with OR without Tyndall. We know they're colloids, but what size are those colloids? OK, let's seriously look at particle size for a moment. Question 1

Re: CSAdding hydrogen peroxide to CS

2010-04-13 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I am happy for you Sunny - not the bad part - the good part! dee On 13 Apr 2010, at 18:21, Sunny wrote: Thank YOU all. I get so many emails, from this list and two others as prolific, that I just cant read them all. But the hand of God, fate, the force, whatever you call it, made me open

Re: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?

2010-04-13 Thread Richard Goodwin
Exactly what happened to me. Dick - Original Message From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, April 13, 2010 1:58:29 PM Subject: Re: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF? I did put in three drops of the 3% Dave and when it went grey, I put in

Re: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?

2010-04-13 Thread Dave Darrin
Dee Apparently the tissue is your problem, as the making of paper products uses many unknown (to me) chemicals that could leave some residual contamination. Also a grey color on an electrode is a plus as it shows a roughness of the electrode which promotes better removal of the silver by having

Re: CSwhere is everyone? now - serious CS questions

2010-04-13 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Well I was the same sol--but for these two batches! I just couldn't figure out what had gone wrong! I make my own water which always reads 000 on the TDSand have done for months with no problems at all. The only difference is.cleaning those electrodes - so I'm not going to do that

Re: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?

2010-04-13 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
No I didn't sol. It just went darker each time I added a drop, but I didn't add anywhere near that amount. I just assumed it had contaminants in it. dee On 13 Apr 2010, at 18:36, sol wrote: Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi Dok, thanks for the info (when I worked it all out vbg) I found that

Re: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?

2010-04-13 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
But I didn't have a problem when I used the tissue Dave--only when I used the melamine pad! I'm not going to clean them at all now though! dee On 13 Apr 2010, at 19:15, Dave Darrin wrote: Dee Apparently the tissue is your problem, as the making of paper products uses many unknown (to me)

RE: CS Successful Tooth Tubule Disinfection In Vivo??

2010-04-13 Thread Norton, Steve
What do you mean by an infection in tooth tubules? Tooth tubules are very small. Are you talking about an infection within individual tooth tubules? Does the person with the infection have a problem with missing tooth enamel or exposed tooth roots? Thanks, Steve N From:

Re: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?

2010-04-13 Thread Marshall Dudley
The strength of the Tyndall I, that is the intensity of the scattered light to the light beam is given by the following equation: I = kNV^2/w^4 where N is the number of particles, V is the volume of each particle, and w is the wavelength of the light. From this we can see the following: If

Re: CSwhere is everyone? now - serious CS questions

2010-04-13 Thread Marshall Dudley
When you started you had particles of 40 to 50 nm in size, and a concentration over 20 ppm of silver. When you added the H2O2 it immediately broke up the big particles producing silver oxide and silver hydroxide, but before it could convert most of that to 2 atom particles it was used up, so

Re: CSwhere is everyone? now - serious CS questions

2010-04-13 Thread Marshall Dudley
It is possible you still had some large particles that had not gotten broken down with the first drop, but I would guess what you really had was ionic silver precipitate because it exceeded the solubility limit, and the second drop converted some of that to 2 atom colloid. Or you might have

Re: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?

2010-04-13 Thread sol
Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: I did put in three drops of the 3% Dave and when it went grey, I put in some more but it went nearly black! I assumed it was because there is something else in the 3%. dee Despite claims of the purity of 35% peroxide, there ARE also other substances in it,

CS

2010-04-13 Thread ROBERT SMITH
I just returned to the list to get advise for someone I know that is in need of a plan for a home made generator. Due to medical expenses the SG6 or SilverPuppy is not an option for them. IMHO, this might not be true for them today had they been on EIS. Bob Smith

Re: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?

2010-04-13 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I intend to make some 3% from my 35% sol, so do you know how I do that? I mean, how much water would I put in to HP and do I need distilled water or would tap do? Thanks. dee On 13 Apr 2010, at 20:39, sol wrote: Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: I did put in three drops of the 3% Dave and when

Re: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?

2010-04-13 Thread sol
- Original Message From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org I did put in three drops of the 3% Dave and when it went grey, I put in some more but it went nearly black! I assumed it was because there is something else in the 3%. dee I only ever had one batch do that, it went

Re: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?

2010-04-13 Thread sol
Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: But I didn't have a problem when I used the tissue Dave--only when I used the melamine pad! I'm not going to clean them at all now though! dee Now another question I just thought of: did you rinse the electrodes with distilled water after using the melamine pad

Re: CSwhere is everyone? now - serious CS questions

2010-04-13 Thread cking001
We love you as you are Dee... What about Neville, who can't decant??? Chuck Back Up My Hard Drive? I Can't Find The Reverse Switch! On 4/13/2010 2:08:19 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote: Golly, I wish I was brainier! dee On 13 Apr

Marshall's explanations of tydall and particle size, was Re: CSwhere is everyone? now - serious CS questions

2010-04-13 Thread sol
Marshall Dudley wrote: When you started you had particles of 40 to 50 nm in size, and a concentration over 20 ppm of silver. When you added the H2O2 it immediately broke up the big particles producing silver oxide and silver hydroxide, but before it could convert most of that to 2 atom

Re: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?

2010-04-13 Thread sol
Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: I intend to make some 3% from my 35% sol, so do you know how I do that? I mean, how much water would I put in to HP and do I need distilled water or would tap do? Thanks. dee I'd use distilled water. 1 part 35% peroxide to 9 parts distilled water will give

Re: CS

2010-04-13 Thread Garrick
Get a three volt DC wall adapter or tape two batteries together to equal 3 volts. Silver wires (electrodes) two inches apart. Use distilled water and no additives. Let it run 24 hours. Would be very helpful if you get a cheap ppm meter from ebay for $17. Because your end result will be colorless

RE: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?

2010-04-13 Thread Neville Munn
Just a quick reply to say Thanks for *both* your responses Marshall. I'll break them down when I've gone through them and may get back to you at a later date. Cheers N. Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 15:26:10 -0400 From: mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re:

Re: CS

2010-04-13 Thread ZZekelink
In a message dated 4/13/2010 7:53:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, zzen...@gmail.com writes: I just returned to the list to get advise for someone I know that is in need of a plan for a home made generator. Due to medical expenses the SG6 or SilverPuppy is not an option for them. IMHO,

RE: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?

2010-04-13 Thread David Bearrow
Oy. Look at it like this: 35% = 100, divide both by 2 17.5% = 50, divide both by 2 8.75% = 25, divide both by 2 4.375% = 12.5 What that mean? You take the 35% peroxide and mix in an equal amount of water and it divides it in half making it 17.5%. If you started with 1/4 cup of 35% peroxide mix in