RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

2005-12-27 Thread Barry@Declude
Customers who purchased Sniffer via Declude can look on their Host Records
and the dates should be there.


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Subject: Re: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

How can I tell when my subscription expires?


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RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

2005-12-27 Thread Fox, Thomas
I said the same thing, and the response was, basically,
We haven't raised the price in a long time, we need
the money, like it or lump it. 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Koontz
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:57 PM
 To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
 Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
 
 Pete, why over a 50% increase?  That seems rather drastic
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Pete McNeil
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 12:42 PM
 To: sniffer@sortmonster.com
 Subject: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
 
 Hello Sniffer folks,
 
   This is just a friendly reminder that prices will be going up
   January 1.
 
   You can add a year to your SNF subscription at the current price if
   you renew before January 1.
 
   Details are here:
 https://www.armresearch.com/message-sniffer/forms/form-renewal.asp
 
 Thanks,
 _M
 
 Pete McNeil (Madscientist)
 President, MicroNeil Research Corporation Chief SortMonster
 (www.sortmonster.com) Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com)
 
 
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RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

2005-12-27 Thread Michael Murdoch
Hi Folks,

Actually, here is some more detail as to the reasons for the price
increase.  In addition, please bear in mind that that prices haven't
been raised in approximately 2 years and even with this increase we are
priced very competitively. 

The new feature/benefits and more to come are as follows:

* In the past 6 months we have more than doubled the number of updates
per day and we will continue to increase our bandwidth and the speed of
our updates.  

* We have more than tripled our staff to improve our monitoring,
support, and rule generation capabilities.  Come January, we are again
doubling this staff as the black-hats have gotten much more
sophisticated and this has become a 24x7 battle.  Even Pete needs to
sleep sometimes. :-)

* We are adding new RD programs for AFF/419 spam and Malware mitigation
(many of the results from these projects have already been implemented).

* During this next year as part of our continuous improvement policy we
will continue to roll out new features and enhancements such as fully
automated reporting, in-band real-time updates, an optimized message
processing pipeline, image and file attachment tagging, advanced header
structure analysis, enhanced adaptive heuristics, improved machine
learning systems, real-time wave-front threat detection, and many
more...

It's important to recognize that many of our improvements don't require
new software to be installed on the client side since they are delivered
through rulebase enhancements. Though this often causes our work to go
unnoticed, it is actually a design feature since it means that your
installation requires very little maintenance. This translates to
lowered administration costs and higher reliability.

As a result of this reliability-first design strategy, it may not
always be obvious that our service is constantly being improved and
enhanced - we never stand still ;-)

We'd hate to see any of you go, but please do compare us with other
services.
I'm sure that you'll find we're well worth the money, but it's always
good to keep your options open. In fact, best practice these days for
spam filtering is to use a blended approach that leverages many
services. We personally encourage that for best results.

Please let me know if you have any questions.  Thank you for your
feedback and business!

Sincerely

Michael Murdoch
The Sniffer Team 
ARM Research Labs, LLC
Tel. 850-932-5338 x303 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fox, Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:03 PM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

I said the same thing, and the response was, basically,
We haven't raised the price in a long time, we need
the money, like it or lump it. 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Koontz
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:57 PM
 To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
 Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
 
 Pete, why over a 50% increase?  That seems rather drastic
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Pete McNeil
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 12:42 PM
 To: sniffer@sortmonster.com
 Subject: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
 
 Hello Sniffer folks,
 
   This is just a friendly reminder that prices will be going up
   January 1.
 
   You can add a year to your SNF subscription at the current price if
   you renew before January 1.
 
   Details are here:
 https://www.armresearch.com/message-sniffer/forms/form-renewal.asp
 
 Thanks,
 _M
 
 Pete McNeil (Madscientist)
 President, MicroNeil Research Corporation Chief SortMonster
 (www.sortmonster.com) Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com)
 
 
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RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

2005-12-27 Thread Tech Support
We've already renewed this morning.  

From our point of view even at the $170 per year more would still be far
less costly than the cost of finding, evaluating and implementing another
solution.  Not to mention the potential loss of business if our customers
were not happy with the replacements results. 

Just 2 cents from a guy that rarely says anything :)



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Michael Murdoch
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 2:14 PM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Cc: Pete McNeil
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
Importance: High

Hi Folks,

Actually, here is some more detail as to the reasons for the price
increase.  In addition, please bear in mind that that prices haven't
been raised in approximately 2 years and even with this increase we are
priced very competitively. 

The new feature/benefits and more to come are as follows:

* In the past 6 months we have more than doubled the number of updates
per day and we will continue to increase our bandwidth and the speed of
our updates.  

* We have more than tripled our staff to improve our monitoring,
support, and rule generation capabilities.  Come January, we are again
doubling this staff as the black-hats have gotten much more
sophisticated and this has become a 24x7 battle.  Even Pete needs to
sleep sometimes. :-)

* We are adding new RD programs for AFF/419 spam and Malware mitigation
(many of the results from these projects have already been implemented).

* During this next year as part of our continuous improvement policy we
will continue to roll out new features and enhancements such as fully
automated reporting, in-band real-time updates, an optimized message
processing pipeline, image and file attachment tagging, advanced header
structure analysis, enhanced adaptive heuristics, improved machine
learning systems, real-time wave-front threat detection, and many
more...

It's important to recognize that many of our improvements don't require
new software to be installed on the client side since they are delivered
through rulebase enhancements. Though this often causes our work to go
unnoticed, it is actually a design feature since it means that your
installation requires very little maintenance. This translates to
lowered administration costs and higher reliability.

As a result of this reliability-first design strategy, it may not
always be obvious that our service is constantly being improved and
enhanced - we never stand still ;-)

We'd hate to see any of you go, but please do compare us with other
services.
I'm sure that you'll find we're well worth the money, but it's always
good to keep your options open. In fact, best practice these days for
spam filtering is to use a blended approach that leverages many
services. We personally encourage that for best results.

Please let me know if you have any questions.  Thank you for your
feedback and business!

Sincerely

Michael Murdoch
The Sniffer Team 
ARM Research Labs, LLC
Tel. 850-932-5338 x303 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fox, Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:03 PM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

I said the same thing, and the response was, basically,
We haven't raised the price in a long time, we need
the money, like it or lump it. 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Koontz
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:57 PM
 To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
 Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
 
 Pete, why over a 50% increase?  That seems rather drastic
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Pete McNeil
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 12:42 PM
 To: sniffer@sortmonster.com
 Subject: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
 
 Hello Sniffer folks,
 
   This is just a friendly reminder that prices will be going up
   January 1.
 
   You can add a year to your SNF subscription at the current price if
   you renew before January 1.
 
   Details are here:
 https://www.armresearch.com/message-sniffer/forms/form-renewal.asp
 
 Thanks,
 _M
 
 Pete McNeil (Madscientist)
 President, MicroNeil Research Corporation Chief SortMonster
 (www.sortmonster.com) Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com)
 
 
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RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

2005-12-27 Thread Dan Horne
We've been using Sniffer for almost 5 years now and the price hasn't
increased in that time.  It's overdue, really.



Fox, Thomas  wrote on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 2:03 PM:

 I said the same thing, and the response was, basically, We haven't
 raised the price in a long time, we need the money, like it or lump
 it.  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Koontz
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:57 PM
 To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
 Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
 
 Pete, why over a 50% increase?  That seems rather drastic
 
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Pete McNeil
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 12:42 PM
 To: sniffer@sortmonster.com
 Subject: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
 
 Hello Sniffer folks,
 
   This is just a friendly reminder that prices will be going up  
 January 1. 
 
   You can add a year to your SNF subscription at the current price
 if   you renew before January 1. 
 
   Details are here:
 https://www.armresearch.com/message-sniffer/forms/form-renewal.asp
 
 Thanks,
 _M
 
 Pete McNeil (Madscientist)
 President, MicroNeil Research Corporation Chief SortMonster
 (www.sortmonster.com) Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com)
 
 
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RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

2005-12-27 Thread Rick Robeson
We've always paid under the 'monthly' plan.
How will this be affected?
Should we switch to the yearly plan?

Rick Robeson
getlocalnews.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael Murdoch
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 11:14 AM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Cc: Pete McNeil
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
Importance: High


Hi Folks,

Actually, here is some more detail as to the reasons for the price
increase.  In addition, please bear in mind that that prices haven't
been raised in approximately 2 years and even with this increase we are
priced very competitively.

The new feature/benefits and more to come are as follows:

* In the past 6 months we have more than doubled the number of updates
per day and we will continue to increase our bandwidth and the speed of
our updates.

* We have more than tripled our staff to improve our monitoring,
support, and rule generation capabilities.  Come January, we are again
doubling this staff as the black-hats have gotten much more
sophisticated and this has become a 24x7 battle.  Even Pete needs to
sleep sometimes. :-)

* We are adding new RD programs for AFF/419 spam and Malware mitigation
(many of the results from these projects have already been implemented).

* During this next year as part of our continuous improvement policy we
will continue to roll out new features and enhancements such as fully
automated reporting, in-band real-time updates, an optimized message
processing pipeline, image and file attachment tagging, advanced header
structure analysis, enhanced adaptive heuristics, improved machine
learning systems, real-time wave-front threat detection, and many
more...

It's important to recognize that many of our improvements don't require
new software to be installed on the client side since they are delivered
through rulebase enhancements. Though this often causes our work to go
unnoticed, it is actually a design feature since it means that your
installation requires very little maintenance. This translates to
lowered administration costs and higher reliability.

As a result of this reliability-first design strategy, it may not
always be obvious that our service is constantly being improved and
enhanced - we never stand still ;-)

We'd hate to see any of you go, but please do compare us with other
services.
I'm sure that you'll find we're well worth the money, but it's always
good to keep your options open. In fact, best practice these days for
spam filtering is to use a blended approach that leverages many
services. We personally encourage that for best results.

Please let me know if you have any questions.  Thank you for your
feedback and business!

Sincerely

Michael Murdoch
The Sniffer Team
ARM Research Labs, LLC
Tel. 850-932-5338 x303


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fox, Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:03 PM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

I said the same thing, and the response was, basically,
We haven't raised the price in a long time, we need
the money, like it or lump it.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Koontz
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:57 PM
 To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
 Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

 Pete, why over a 50% increase?  That seems rather drastic


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Pete McNeil
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 12:42 PM
 To: sniffer@sortmonster.com
 Subject: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

 Hello Sniffer folks,

   This is just a friendly reminder that prices will be going up
   January 1.

   You can add a year to your SNF subscription at the current price if
   you renew before January 1.

   Details are here:
 https://www.armresearch.com/message-sniffer/forms/form-renewal.asp

 Thanks,
 _M

 Pete McNeil (Madscientist)
 President, MicroNeil Research Corporation Chief SortMonster
 (www.sortmonster.com) Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com)


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RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

2005-12-27 Thread Michael Murdoch
Hi Rick,

Yes, you can convert your monthly license payment to a yearly
subscription and at the current yearly rate of $ 325.00 by going to: 

https://www.armresearch.com/message-sniffer/forms/form-renewal.asp

This is the recommendation that we are making to all monthly customers
so that you can be grandfathered in at the current price.

Please give a day or two to email you your PAID COPY of your invoice
with the effective subscription dates.  Thank you for your business!

Mike
The Sniffer Team 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Robeson
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:29 PM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

We've always paid under the 'monthly' plan.
How will this be affected?
Should we switch to the yearly plan?

Rick Robeson
getlocalnews.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael Murdoch
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 11:14 AM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Cc: Pete McNeil
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
Importance: High


Hi Folks,

Actually, here is some more detail as to the reasons for the price
increase.  In addition, please bear in mind that that prices haven't
been raised in approximately 2 years and even with this increase we are
priced very competitively.

The new feature/benefits and more to come are as follows:

* In the past 6 months we have more than doubled the number of updates
per day and we will continue to increase our bandwidth and the speed of
our updates.

* We have more than tripled our staff to improve our monitoring,
support, and rule generation capabilities.  Come January, we are again
doubling this staff as the black-hats have gotten much more
sophisticated and this has become a 24x7 battle.  Even Pete needs to
sleep sometimes. :-)

* We are adding new RD programs for AFF/419 spam and Malware mitigation
(many of the results from these projects have already been implemented).

* During this next year as part of our continuous improvement policy we
will continue to roll out new features and enhancements such as fully
automated reporting, in-band real-time updates, an optimized message
processing pipeline, image and file attachment tagging, advanced header
structure analysis, enhanced adaptive heuristics, improved machine
learning systems, real-time wave-front threat detection, and many
more...

It's important to recognize that many of our improvements don't require
new software to be installed on the client side since they are delivered
through rulebase enhancements. Though this often causes our work to go
unnoticed, it is actually a design feature since it means that your
installation requires very little maintenance. This translates to
lowered administration costs and higher reliability.

As a result of this reliability-first design strategy, it may not
always be obvious that our service is constantly being improved and
enhanced - we never stand still ;-)

We'd hate to see any of you go, but please do compare us with other
services.
I'm sure that you'll find we're well worth the money, but it's always
good to keep your options open. In fact, best practice these days for
spam filtering is to use a blended approach that leverages many
services. We personally encourage that for best results.

Please let me know if you have any questions.  Thank you for your
feedback and business!

Sincerely

Michael Murdoch
The Sniffer Team
ARM Research Labs, LLC
Tel. 850-932-5338 x303


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fox, Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:03 PM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

I said the same thing, and the response was, basically,
We haven't raised the price in a long time, we need
the money, like it or lump it.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Koontz
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:57 PM
 To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
 Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

 Pete, why over a 50% increase?  That seems rather drastic


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Pete McNeil
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 12:42 PM
 To: sniffer@sortmonster.com
 Subject: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

 Hello Sniffer folks,

   This is just a friendly reminder that prices will be going up
   January 1.

   You can add a year to your SNF subscription at the current price if
   you renew before January 1.

   Details are here:
 https://www.armresearch.com/message-sniffer/forms/form-renewal.asp

 Thanks,
 _M

 Pete McNeil (Madscientist)
 President, MicroNeil Research Corporation Chief SortMonster
 (www.sortmonster.com) Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com

RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

2005-12-27 Thread Rick Robeson
I'm curious.

If it get's shot down by your management what will you replace it with
that's equivalent?

Rick Robeson
getlocalnews.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Koontz
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 11:42 AM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Cc: 'Pete McNeil'
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!


Thanks for the explaination.  While this is all fine and good, the reality
is that many IT shops are on fixed budgets outside of their control.  I can
justify a 10-15% increase to our CFO, but over 50% will get shot down
immediately.

The fact that you haven't raised prices in years is noble, but if you need
additional revenue, you should phase the increases in over a period of time,
or a modest increase each year.  Some customers simply can not turn up the
cash buckets into over-drive whenever you deem you need a substantial cash
influx.

You've got a great product, and I would really hate to lose it as a tool.
What will the Educational Institution pricing look like?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Michael Murdoch
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 2:14 PM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Cc: Pete McNeil
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
Importance: High

Hi Folks,

Actually, here is some more detail as to the reasons for the price increase.
In addition, please bear in mind that that prices haven't been raised in
approximately 2 years and even with this increase we are priced very
competitively.

The new feature/benefits and more to come are as follows:

* In the past 6 months we have more than doubled the number of updates per
day and we will continue to increase our bandwidth and the speed of our
updates.

* We have more than tripled our staff to improve our monitoring, support,
and rule generation capabilities.  Come January, we are again doubling this
staff as the black-hats have gotten much more sophisticated and this has
become a 24x7 battle.  Even Pete needs to sleep sometimes. :-)

* We are adding new RD programs for AFF/419 spam and Malware mitigation
(many of the results from these projects have already been implemented).

* During this next year as part of our continuous improvement policy we will
continue to roll out new features and enhancements such as fully automated
reporting, in-band real-time updates, an optimized message processing
pipeline, image and file attachment tagging, advanced header structure
analysis, enhanced adaptive heuristics, improved machine learning systems,
real-time wave-front threat detection, and many more...

It's important to recognize that many of our improvements don't require new
software to be installed on the client side since they are delivered through
rulebase enhancements. Though this often causes our work to go unnoticed, it
is actually a design feature since it means that your installation requires
very little maintenance. This translates to lowered administration costs and
higher reliability.

As a result of this reliability-first design strategy, it may not always
be obvious that our service is constantly being improved and enhanced - we
never stand still ;-)

We'd hate to see any of you go, but please do compare us with other
services.
I'm sure that you'll find we're well worth the money, but it's always good
to keep your options open. In fact, best practice these days for spam
filtering is to use a blended approach that leverages many services. We
personally encourage that for best results.

Please let me know if you have any questions.  Thank you for your feedback
and business!

Sincerely

Michael Murdoch
The Sniffer Team
ARM Research Labs, LLC
Tel. 850-932-5338 x303


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fox, Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:03 PM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

I said the same thing, and the response was, basically,
We haven't raised the price in a long time, we need
the money, like it or lump it.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Koontz
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:57 PM
 To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
 Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

 Pete, why over a 50% increase?  That seems rather drastic


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Pete McNeil
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 12:42 PM
 To: sniffer@sortmonster.com
 Subject: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

 Hello Sniffer folks,

   This is just a friendly reminder that prices will be going up
   January 1.

   You can add a year to your SNF subscription at the current price if
   you renew before January 1.

   Details are here:
 https://www.armresearch.com/message-sniffer/forms/form

RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

2005-12-27 Thread NetEase Operations Manager
No complaints from here.  We have only been using sniffer a couple of months
and it has already cut my tech workload about 8-10 hours per day in dealing
with spam.

DustyC

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Dave Koontz
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:42 PM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Cc: 'Pete McNeil'
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

Thanks for the explaination.  While this is all fine and good, the reality
is that many IT shops are on fixed budgets outside of their control.  I can
justify a 10-15% increase to our CFO, but over 50% will get shot down
immediately.

The fact that you haven't raised prices in years is noble, but if you need
additional revenue, you should phase the increases in over a period of time,
or a modest increase each year.  Some customers simply can not turn up the
cash buckets into over-drive whenever you deem you need a substantial cash
influx.

You've got a great product, and I would really hate to lose it as a tool.
What will the Educational Institution pricing look like?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Michael Murdoch
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 2:14 PM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Cc: Pete McNeil
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
Importance: High

Hi Folks,

Actually, here is some more detail as to the reasons for the price increase.
In addition, please bear in mind that that prices haven't been raised in
approximately 2 years and even with this increase we are priced very
competitively. 

The new feature/benefits and more to come are as follows:

* In the past 6 months we have more than doubled the number of updates per
day and we will continue to increase our bandwidth and the speed of our
updates.  

* We have more than tripled our staff to improve our monitoring, support,
and rule generation capabilities.  Come January, we are again doubling this
staff as the black-hats have gotten much more sophisticated and this has
become a 24x7 battle.  Even Pete needs to sleep sometimes. :-)

* We are adding new RD programs for AFF/419 spam and Malware mitigation
(many of the results from these projects have already been implemented).

* During this next year as part of our continuous improvement policy we will
continue to roll out new features and enhancements such as fully automated
reporting, in-band real-time updates, an optimized message processing
pipeline, image and file attachment tagging, advanced header structure
analysis, enhanced adaptive heuristics, improved machine learning systems,
real-time wave-front threat detection, and many more...

It's important to recognize that many of our improvements don't require new
software to be installed on the client side since they are delivered through
rulebase enhancements. Though this often causes our work to go unnoticed, it
is actually a design feature since it means that your installation requires
very little maintenance. This translates to lowered administration costs and
higher reliability.

As a result of this reliability-first design strategy, it may not always
be obvious that our service is constantly being improved and enhanced - we
never stand still ;-)

We'd hate to see any of you go, but please do compare us with other
services.
I'm sure that you'll find we're well worth the money, but it's always good
to keep your options open. In fact, best practice these days for spam
filtering is to use a blended approach that leverages many services. We
personally encourage that for best results.

Please let me know if you have any questions.  Thank you for your feedback
and business!

Sincerely

Michael Murdoch
The Sniffer Team
ARM Research Labs, LLC
Tel. 850-932-5338 x303 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fox, Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:03 PM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

I said the same thing, and the response was, basically,
We haven't raised the price in a long time, we need
the money, like it or lump it. 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Koontz
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:57 PM
 To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
 Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
 
 Pete, why over a 50% increase?  That seems rather drastic
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Pete McNeil
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 12:42 PM
 To: sniffer@sortmonster.com
 Subject: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
 
 Hello Sniffer folks,
 
   This is just a friendly reminder that prices will be going up
   January 1.
 
   You can add a year to your SNF subscription at the current price if
   you renew before January 1.
 
   Details are here:
 https://www.armresearch.com/message-sniffer

RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

2005-12-27 Thread Fox, Thomas
Yeah, what he said! 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Koontz
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 2:42 PM
 To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
 Cc: 'Pete McNeil'
 Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
 
 Thanks for the explaination.  While this is all fine and 
 good, the reality
 is that many IT shops are on fixed budgets outside of their 
 control.  I can
 justify a 10-15% increase to our CFO, but over 50% will get shot down
 immediately.
 
 The fact that you haven't raised prices in years is noble, 
 but if you need
 additional revenue, you should phase the increases in over a 
 period of time,
 or a modest increase each year.  Some customers simply can 
 not turn up the
 cash buckets into over-drive whenever you deem you need a 
 substantial cash
 influx.
 
 You've got a great product, and I would really hate to lose 
 it as a tool.
 What will the Educational Institution pricing look like?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Michael Murdoch
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 2:14 PM
 To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
 Cc: Pete McNeil
 Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
 Importance: High
 
 Hi Folks,
 
 Actually, here is some more detail as to the reasons for the 
 price increase.
 In addition, please bear in mind that that prices haven't 
 been raised in
 approximately 2 years and even with this increase we are priced very
 competitively. 
 
 The new feature/benefits and more to come are as follows:
 
 * In the past 6 months we have more than doubled the number 
 of updates per
 day and we will continue to increase our bandwidth and the 
 speed of our
 updates.  
 
 * We have more than tripled our staff to improve our 
 monitoring, support,
 and rule generation capabilities.  Come January, we are again 
 doubling this
 staff as the black-hats have gotten much more sophisticated 
 and this has
 become a 24x7 battle.  Even Pete needs to sleep sometimes. :-)
 
 * We are adding new RD programs for AFF/419 spam and Malware 
 mitigation
 (many of the results from these projects have already been 
 implemented).
 
 * During this next year as part of our continuous improvement 
 policy we will
 continue to roll out new features and enhancements such as 
 fully automated
 reporting, in-band real-time updates, an optimized message processing
 pipeline, image and file attachment tagging, advanced header structure
 analysis, enhanced adaptive heuristics, improved machine 
 learning systems,
 real-time wave-front threat detection, and many more...
 
 It's important to recognize that many of our improvements 
 don't require new
 software to be installed on the client side since they are 
 delivered through
 rulebase enhancements. Though this often causes our work to 
 go unnoticed, it
 is actually a design feature since it means that your 
 installation requires
 very little maintenance. This translates to lowered 
 administration costs and
 higher reliability.
 
 As a result of this reliability-first design strategy, it 
 may not always
 be obvious that our service is constantly being improved and 
 enhanced - we
 never stand still ;-)
 
 We'd hate to see any of you go, but please do compare us with other
 services.
 I'm sure that you'll find we're well worth the money, but 
 it's always good
 to keep your options open. In fact, best practice these days for spam
 filtering is to use a blended approach that leverages many 
 services. We
 personally encourage that for best results.
 
 Please let me know if you have any questions.  Thank you for 
 your feedback
 and business!
 
 Sincerely
 
 Michael Murdoch
 The Sniffer Team
 ARM Research Labs, LLC
 Tel. 850-932-5338 x303 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fox, Thomas
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:03 PM
 To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
 Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
 
 I said the same thing, and the response was, basically,
 We haven't raised the price in a long time, we need
 the money, like it or lump it. 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Koontz
  Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:57 PM
  To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
  Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
  
  Pete, why over a 50% increase?  That seems rather drastic
   
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Pete McNeil
  Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 12:42 PM
  To: sniffer@sortmonster.com
  Subject: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
  
  Hello Sniffer folks,
  
This is just a friendly reminder that prices will be going up
January 1.
  
You can add a year to your SNF subscription at the 
 current price if
you renew before January 1.
  
Details are here:
  https

RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

2005-12-27 Thread Michael Murdoch
Hi Dave,

Your license is set to expire on 01/26/2006, so if receive the renewal
before the end of the year.  Your cost will be the same as your last
renewal.  Again, we are grandfathering and giving consideration to our
existing clients.  If you wait until after the 1st, your educational
cost will be 10% off the new retail of $ 495.00.

Again and finally, this increase is needed if we are to remain a viable
business that is able to provide you with a quality product/service and
enhancements.  And, just to clarify the percentage of the price
increase, it is actually a 34% increase in retail or $ 170.00 per year.
I know that they may still seem like a lot to some of you, but it is
either this or get out of the business.  

I trust and hope you will all understand.  That's all that I have left
to say as we have to get back to work keeping your in-boxes clean. ;-)  

Thank you all for your business and support.  Have a great New Year!

Best wishes,
Mike Murdoch
ARM Research Labs, LLC
The Sniffer Team
Tel. 850-932-5338 x303



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Koontz
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:42 PM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Cc: 'Pete McNeil'
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

Thanks for the explaination.  While this is all fine and good, the
reality
is that many IT shops are on fixed budgets outside of their control.  I
can
justify a 10-15% increase to our CFO, but over 50% will get shot down
immediately.

The fact that you haven't raised prices in years is noble, but if you
need
additional revenue, you should phase the increases in over a period of
time,
or a modest increase each year.  Some customers simply can not turn up
the
cash buckets into over-drive whenever you deem you need a substantial
cash
influx.

You've got a great product, and I would really hate to lose it as a
tool.
What will the Educational Institution pricing look like?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Michael Murdoch
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 2:14 PM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Cc: Pete McNeil
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
Importance: High

Hi Folks,

Actually, here is some more detail as to the reasons for the price
increase.
In addition, please bear in mind that that prices haven't been raised in
approximately 2 years and even with this increase we are priced very
competitively. 

The new feature/benefits and more to come are as follows:

* In the past 6 months we have more than doubled the number of updates
per
day and we will continue to increase our bandwidth and the speed of our
updates.  

* We have more than tripled our staff to improve our monitoring,
support,
and rule generation capabilities.  Come January, we are again doubling
this
staff as the black-hats have gotten much more sophisticated and this has
become a 24x7 battle.  Even Pete needs to sleep sometimes. :-)

* We are adding new RD programs for AFF/419 spam and Malware mitigation
(many of the results from these projects have already been implemented).

* During this next year as part of our continuous improvement policy we
will
continue to roll out new features and enhancements such as fully
automated
reporting, in-band real-time updates, an optimized message processing
pipeline, image and file attachment tagging, advanced header structure
analysis, enhanced adaptive heuristics, improved machine learning
systems,
real-time wave-front threat detection, and many more...

It's important to recognize that many of our improvements don't require
new
software to be installed on the client side since they are delivered
through
rulebase enhancements. Though this often causes our work to go
unnoticed, it
is actually a design feature since it means that your installation
requires
very little maintenance. This translates to lowered administration costs
and
higher reliability.

As a result of this reliability-first design strategy, it may not
always
be obvious that our service is constantly being improved and enhanced -
we
never stand still ;-)

We'd hate to see any of you go, but please do compare us with other
services.
I'm sure that you'll find we're well worth the money, but it's always
good
to keep your options open. In fact, best practice these days for spam
filtering is to use a blended approach that leverages many services. We
personally encourage that for best results.

Please let me know if you have any questions.  Thank you for your
feedback
and business!

Sincerely

Michael Murdoch
The Sniffer Team
ARM Research Labs, LLC
Tel. 850-932-5338 x303 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fox, Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:03 PM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

I said the same thing, and the response was, basically,
We haven't raised the price in a long time, we

RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

2005-12-27 Thread Darrell LaRock
One thing to note it would have been nice to know this sooner.  Many of us
that have budgets did them months ago for 2006..  It would have been nice to
know ahead of time so I don't have to explain why we budgeted $325.00
instead of $500.00.  When you have multiple copies like we do (3) - your
talking about $500+ unbudgeted dollars that will end up having to come out
of expense.

Darrell

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Dave Koontz
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 2:42 PM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Cc: 'Pete McNeil'
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

Thanks for the explaination.  While this is all fine and good, the reality
is that many IT shops are on fixed budgets outside of their control.  I can
justify a 10-15% increase to our CFO, but over 50% will get shot down
immediately.

The fact that you haven't raised prices in years is noble, but if you need
additional revenue, you should phase the increases in over a period of time,
or a modest increase each year.  Some customers simply can not turn up the
cash buckets into over-drive whenever you deem you need a substantial cash
influx.

You've got a great product, and I would really hate to lose it as a tool.
What will the Educational Institution pricing look like?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Michael Murdoch
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 2:14 PM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Cc: Pete McNeil
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
Importance: High

Hi Folks,

Actually, here is some more detail as to the reasons for the price increase.
In addition, please bear in mind that that prices haven't been raised in
approximately 2 years and even with this increase we are priced very
competitively. 

The new feature/benefits and more to come are as follows:

* In the past 6 months we have more than doubled the number of updates per
day and we will continue to increase our bandwidth and the speed of our
updates.  

* We have more than tripled our staff to improve our monitoring, support,
and rule generation capabilities.  Come January, we are again doubling this
staff as the black-hats have gotten much more sophisticated and this has
become a 24x7 battle.  Even Pete needs to sleep sometimes. :-)

* We are adding new RD programs for AFF/419 spam and Malware mitigation
(many of the results from these projects have already been implemented).

* During this next year as part of our continuous improvement policy we will
continue to roll out new features and enhancements such as fully automated
reporting, in-band real-time updates, an optimized message processing
pipeline, image and file attachment tagging, advanced header structure
analysis, enhanced adaptive heuristics, improved machine learning systems,
real-time wave-front threat detection, and many more...

It's important to recognize that many of our improvements don't require new
software to be installed on the client side since they are delivered through
rulebase enhancements. Though this often causes our work to go unnoticed, it
is actually a design feature since it means that your installation requires
very little maintenance. This translates to lowered administration costs and
higher reliability.

As a result of this reliability-first design strategy, it may not always
be obvious that our service is constantly being improved and enhanced - we
never stand still ;-)

We'd hate to see any of you go, but please do compare us with other
services.
I'm sure that you'll find we're well worth the money, but it's always good
to keep your options open. In fact, best practice these days for spam
filtering is to use a blended approach that leverages many services. We
personally encourage that for best results.

Please let me know if you have any questions.  Thank you for your feedback
and business!

Sincerely

Michael Murdoch
The Sniffer Team
ARM Research Labs, LLC
Tel. 850-932-5338 x303 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fox, Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:03 PM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

I said the same thing, and the response was, basically,
We haven't raised the price in a long time, we need
the money, like it or lump it. 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Koontz
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:57 PM
 To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
 Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
 
 Pete, why over a 50% increase?  That seems rather drastic
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Pete McNeil
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 12:42 PM
 To: sniffer@sortmonster.com
 Subject: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
 
 Hello Sniffer folks,
 
   This is just a friendly

RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

2005-12-27 Thread Fox, Thomas
See, like I said: We haven't raised prices in a long time,
we need the money, like it or lump it.

We like the product, and will probably keep using it, but
I'll be sure to extract my 34% price increase through
inane tech support requests, phone calls, e-mails, etc.

If there really hasn't been a price increase in 5 years,
a six or seven percent increase per year makes more sense 
to me than 34% all at once. 

Such a huge increase, in such a short period of time, 
smacks of Someone needs a new Lexus much more than it does
we need to remain a viable business.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Murdoch
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 3:02 PM
 To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
 Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
 
 Hi Dave,
 
 Your license is set to expire on 01/26/2006, so if receive the renewal
 before the end of the year.  Your cost will be the same as your last
 renewal.  Again, we are grandfathering and giving consideration to our
 existing clients.  If you wait until after the 1st, your educational
 cost will be 10% off the new retail of $ 495.00.
 
 Again and finally, this increase is needed if we are to 
 remain a viable
 business that is able to provide you with a quality 
 product/service and
 enhancements.  And, just to clarify the percentage of the price
 increase, it is actually a 34% increase in retail or $ 170.00 
 per year.
 I know that they may still seem like a lot to some of you, but it is
 either this or get out of the business.  
 
 I trust and hope you will all understand.  That's all that I have left
 to say as we have to get back to work keeping your in-boxes 
 clean. ;-)  
 
 Thank you all for your business and support.  Have a great New Year!
 
 Best wishes,
 Mike Murdoch
 ARM Research Labs, LLC
 The Sniffer Team
 Tel. 850-932-5338 x303
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Koontz
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:42 PM
 To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
 Cc: 'Pete McNeil'
 Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
 
 Thanks for the explaination.  While this is all fine and good, the
 reality
 is that many IT shops are on fixed budgets outside of their 
 control.  I
 can
 justify a 10-15% increase to our CFO, but over 50% will get shot down
 immediately.
 
 The fact that you haven't raised prices in years is noble, but if you
 need
 additional revenue, you should phase the increases in over a period of
 time,
 or a modest increase each year.  Some customers simply can not turn up
 the
 cash buckets into over-drive whenever you deem you need a substantial
 cash
 influx.
 
 You've got a great product, and I would really hate to lose it as a
 tool.
 What will the Educational Institution pricing look like?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Michael Murdoch
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 2:14 PM
 To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
 Cc: Pete McNeil
 Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
 Importance: High
 
 Hi Folks,
 
 Actually, here is some more detail as to the reasons for the price
 increase.
 In addition, please bear in mind that that prices haven't 
 been raised in
 approximately 2 years and even with this increase we are priced very
 competitively. 
 
 The new feature/benefits and more to come are as follows:
 
 * In the past 6 months we have more than doubled the number of updates
 per
 day and we will continue to increase our bandwidth and the 
 speed of our
 updates.  
 
 * We have more than tripled our staff to improve our monitoring,
 support,
 and rule generation capabilities.  Come January, we are again doubling
 this
 staff as the black-hats have gotten much more sophisticated 
 and this has
 become a 24x7 battle.  Even Pete needs to sleep sometimes. :-)
 
 * We are adding new RD programs for AFF/419 spam and Malware 
 mitigation
 (many of the results from these projects have already been 
 implemented).
 
 * During this next year as part of our continuous improvement 
 policy we
 will
 continue to roll out new features and enhancements such as fully
 automated
 reporting, in-band real-time updates, an optimized message processing
 pipeline, image and file attachment tagging, advanced header structure
 analysis, enhanced adaptive heuristics, improved machine learning
 systems,
 real-time wave-front threat detection, and many more...
 
 It's important to recognize that many of our improvements 
 don't require
 new
 software to be installed on the client side since they are delivered
 through
 rulebase enhancements. Though this often causes our work to go
 unnoticed, it
 is actually a design feature since it means that your installation
 requires
 very little maintenance. This translates to lowered 
 administration costs
 and
 higher reliability.
 
 As a result of this reliability-first design strategy, it may not
 always

RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

2005-12-27 Thread Michael Murdoch
1) The monthly rate is going to $ 45.00.

2) It would be a one year extension to your current subscription and
then your next renewal would be at the new price.  For example, if your
license expires 02/08/2006, your next renewal would be on 02/08/2007.  

This is offer is completely optional and is available to all existing
customers.  

Thanks,
MM

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 2:47 PM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Subject: Re: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

1) what will the monthly rate be after 2005?

2) If we where to renew at the current rate, how long will that rate be
good 
for?  As you mentioned grandfathered - is this forever or just one year.






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Re: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

2005-12-27 Thread Darin Cox
Hi Michael,

How about false positive processing?  That's our biggest headache, but it
would be drastically reduced by faster processing than the 3-5 days we
currently see.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Michael Murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Cc: Pete McNeil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 2:13 PM
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!


Hi Folks,

Actually, here is some more detail as to the reasons for the price
increase.  In addition, please bear in mind that that prices haven't
been raised in approximately 2 years and even with this increase we are
priced very competitively.

The new feature/benefits and more to come are as follows:

* In the past 6 months we have more than doubled the number of updates
per day and we will continue to increase our bandwidth and the speed of
our updates.

* We have more than tripled our staff to improve our monitoring,
support, and rule generation capabilities.  Come January, we are again
doubling this staff as the black-hats have gotten much more
sophisticated and this has become a 24x7 battle.  Even Pete needs to
sleep sometimes. :-)

* We are adding new RD programs for AFF/419 spam and Malware mitigation
(many of the results from these projects have already been implemented).

* During this next year as part of our continuous improvement policy we
will continue to roll out new features and enhancements such as fully
automated reporting, in-band real-time updates, an optimized message
processing pipeline, image and file attachment tagging, advanced header
structure analysis, enhanced adaptive heuristics, improved machine
learning systems, real-time wave-front threat detection, and many
more...

It's important to recognize that many of our improvements don't require
new software to be installed on the client side since they are delivered
through rulebase enhancements. Though this often causes our work to go
unnoticed, it is actually a design feature since it means that your
installation requires very little maintenance. This translates to
lowered administration costs and higher reliability.

As a result of this reliability-first design strategy, it may not
always be obvious that our service is constantly being improved and
enhanced - we never stand still ;-)

We'd hate to see any of you go, but please do compare us with other
services.
I'm sure that you'll find we're well worth the money, but it's always
good to keep your options open. In fact, best practice these days for
spam filtering is to use a blended approach that leverages many
services. We personally encourage that for best results.

Please let me know if you have any questions.  Thank you for your
feedback and business!

Sincerely

Michael Murdoch
The Sniffer Team
ARM Research Labs, LLC
Tel. 850-932-5338 x303


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fox, Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:03 PM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

I said the same thing, and the response was, basically,
We haven't raised the price in a long time, we need
the money, like it or lump it.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Koontz
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:57 PM
 To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
 Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

 Pete, why over a 50% increase?  That seems rather drastic


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Pete McNeil
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 12:42 PM
 To: sniffer@sortmonster.com
 Subject: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

 Hello Sniffer folks,

   This is just a friendly reminder that prices will be going up
   January 1.

   You can add a year to your SNF subscription at the current price if
   you renew before January 1.

   Details are here:
 https://www.armresearch.com/message-sniffer/forms/form-renewal.asp

 Thanks,
 _M

 Pete McNeil (Madscientist)
 President, MicroNeil Research Corporation Chief SortMonster
 (www.sortmonster.com) Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com)


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Re: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

2005-12-27 Thread Darin Cox
Wow... last minute notice.  It's difficult to budgets for these things with
so little notice.  Please consider a couple month's notice the next time.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Pete McNeil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sniffer@sortmonster.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 12:42 PM
Subject: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!


Hello Sniffer folks,

  This is just a friendly reminder that prices will be going up
  January 1.

  You can add a year to your SNF subscription at the current price if
  you renew before January 1.

  Details are here:
https://www.armresearch.com/message-sniffer/forms/form-renewal.asp

Thanks,
_M

Pete McNeil (Madscientist)
President, MicroNeil Research Corporation
Chief SortMonster (www.sortmonster.com)
Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com)


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RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

2005-12-27 Thread Michael Murdoch
Hi Darin,

I know we are working on that as well.  I'll defer to Pete to fill out
those details.  He'll be back online shortly and will respond.  

Thanks,
MM

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 3:01 PM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Subject: Re: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

Hi Michael,

How about false positive processing?  That's our biggest headache, but
it
would be drastically reduced by faster processing than the 3-5 days we
currently see.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Michael Murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Cc: Pete McNeil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 2:13 PM
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!


Hi Folks,

Actually, here is some more detail as to the reasons for the price
increase.  In addition, please bear in mind that that prices haven't
been raised in approximately 2 years and even with this increase we are
priced very competitively.

The new feature/benefits and more to come are as follows:

* In the past 6 months we have more than doubled the number of updates
per day and we will continue to increase our bandwidth and the speed of
our updates.

* We have more than tripled our staff to improve our monitoring,
support, and rule generation capabilities.  Come January, we are again
doubling this staff as the black-hats have gotten much more
sophisticated and this has become a 24x7 battle.  Even Pete needs to
sleep sometimes. :-)

* We are adding new RD programs for AFF/419 spam and Malware mitigation
(many of the results from these projects have already been implemented).

* During this next year as part of our continuous improvement policy we
will continue to roll out new features and enhancements such as fully
automated reporting, in-band real-time updates, an optimized message
processing pipeline, image and file attachment tagging, advanced header
structure analysis, enhanced adaptive heuristics, improved machine
learning systems, real-time wave-front threat detection, and many
more...

It's important to recognize that many of our improvements don't require
new software to be installed on the client side since they are delivered
through rulebase enhancements. Though this often causes our work to go
unnoticed, it is actually a design feature since it means that your
installation requires very little maintenance. This translates to
lowered administration costs and higher reliability.

As a result of this reliability-first design strategy, it may not
always be obvious that our service is constantly being improved and
enhanced - we never stand still ;-)

We'd hate to see any of you go, but please do compare us with other
services.
I'm sure that you'll find we're well worth the money, but it's always
good to keep your options open. In fact, best practice these days for
spam filtering is to use a blended approach that leverages many
services. We personally encourage that for best results.

Please let me know if you have any questions.  Thank you for your
feedback and business!

Sincerely

Michael Murdoch
The Sniffer Team
ARM Research Labs, LLC
Tel. 850-932-5338 x303


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fox, Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:03 PM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

I said the same thing, and the response was, basically,
We haven't raised the price in a long time, we need
the money, like it or lump it.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Koontz
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:57 PM
 To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
 Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

 Pete, why over a 50% increase?  That seems rather drastic


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Pete McNeil
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 12:42 PM
 To: sniffer@sortmonster.com
 Subject: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

 Hello Sniffer folks,

   This is just a friendly reminder that prices will be going up
   January 1.

   You can add a year to your SNF subscription at the current price if
   you renew before January 1.

   Details are here:
 https://www.armresearch.com/message-sniffer/forms/form-renewal.asp

 Thanks,
 _M

 Pete McNeil (Madscientist)
 President, MicroNeil Research Corporation Chief SortMonster
 (www.sortmonster.com) Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com)


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RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

2005-12-27 Thread Jim Matuska Jr.
Is it possible to pay low price extend your subscription more than one year
at the current price or would you only be able to get 1 more year at the low
price and have to pay later years at the full rate?  

Jim Matuska Jr.
Computer Tech2, CCNA
Nez Perce Tribe
Information Systems
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 


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Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 12:57 PM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

1) The monthly rate is going to $ 45.00.

2) It would be a one year extension to your current subscription and
then your next renewal would be at the new price.  For example, if your
license expires 02/08/2006, your next renewal would be on 02/08/2007.  

This is offer is completely optional and is available to all existing
customers.  

Thanks,
MM

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Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 2:47 PM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Subject: Re: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

1) what will the monthly rate be after 2005?

2) If we where to renew at the current rate, how long will that rate be
good 
for?  As you mentioned grandfathered - is this forever or just one year.






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RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

2005-12-27 Thread Fox, Thomas
Might I suggest a visit to: http://www.lexus.com/cpo/ 
and a graduated price increase over the next two years?
A one or two year old Lexus is just as nice as a brand
new one, and would be a lot easier on our already
strained IT budgets.

Thanks,
--tlf


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 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 3:57 PM
 To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
 Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
 
 1) The monthly rate is going to $ 45.00.
 
 2) It would be a one year extension to your current subscription and
 then your next renewal would be at the new price.  For 
 example, if your
 license expires 02/08/2006, your next renewal would be on 
 02/08/2007.  
 
 This is offer is completely optional and is available to all existing
 customers.  
 
 Thanks,
 MM
 
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 1) what will the monthly rate be after 2005?
 
 2) If we where to renew at the current rate, how long will 
 that rate be
 good 
 for?  As you mentioned grandfathered - is this forever or 
 just one year.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

2005-12-27 Thread Jonathan Hickman
[ROTFL]

- Original Message - 
From: Fox, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 4:14 PM
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!


 Might I suggest a visit to: http://www.lexus.com/cpo/
 and a graduated price increase over the next two years?
 A one or two year old Lexus is just as nice as a brand
 new one, and would be a lot easier on our already
 strained IT budgets.

 Thanks,
 --tlf


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  Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 3:57 PM
  To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
  Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
 
  1) The monthly rate is going to $ 45.00.
 
  2) It would be a one year extension to your current subscription and
  then your next renewal would be at the new price.  For
  example, if your
  license expires 02/08/2006, your next renewal would be on
  02/08/2007.
 
  This is offer is completely optional and is available to all existing
  customers.
 
  Thanks,
  MM
 
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  1) what will the monthly rate be after 2005?
 
  2) If we where to renew at the current rate, how long will
  that rate be
  good
  for?  As you mentioned grandfathered - is this forever or
  just one year.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

2005-12-27 Thread J.D. Springer




The short notice is a little disappointing. 
However it is the justifications that are indicating that the provider
of this solution is may no longer a viable business that really
concerns me. 
Sounds like we need to start looking for Plan "B" today.

J.D.

Michael Murdoch wrote:

  Hi Dave,

Your license is set to expire on 01/26/2006, so if receive the renewal
before the end of the year.  Your cost will be the same as your last
renewal.  Again, we are grandfathering and giving consideration to our
existing clients.  If you wait until after the 1st, your educational
cost will be 10% off the new retail of $ 495.00.

Again and finally, this increase is needed if we are to remain a viable
business that is able to provide you with a quality product/service and
enhancements.  And, just to clarify the percentage of the price
increase, it is actually a 34% increase in retail or $ 170.00 per year.
I know that they may still seem like a lot to some of you, but it is
either this or get out of the business.  

I trust and hope you will all understand.  That's all that I have left
to say as we have to get back to work keeping your in-boxes clean. ;-)  

Thank you all for your business and support.  Have a great New Year!

Best wishes,
Mike Murdoch
ARM Research Labs, LLC
The Sniffer Team
Tel. 850-932-5338 x303



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dave Koontz
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:42 PM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Cc: 'Pete McNeil'
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

Thanks for the explaination.  While this is all fine and good, the
reality
is that many IT shops are on fixed budgets outside of their control.  I
can
justify a 10-15% increase to our CFO, but over 50% will get shot down
immediately.

The fact that you haven't raised prices in years is noble, but if you
need
additional revenue, you should phase the increases in over a period of
time,
or a modest increase each year.  Some customers simply can not turn up
the
cash buckets into over-drive whenever you deem you need a substantial
cash
influx.

You've got a great product, and I would really hate to lose it as a
tool.
What will the Educational Institution pricing look like?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Michael Murdoch
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 2:14 PM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Cc: Pete McNeil
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
Importance: High

Hi Folks,

Actually, here is some more detail as to the reasons for the price
increase.
In addition, please bear in mind that that prices haven't been raised in
approximately 2 years and even with this increase we are priced very
competitively. 

The new feature/benefits and more to come are as follows:

* In the past 6 months we have more than doubled the number of updates
per
day and we will continue to increase our bandwidth and the speed of our
updates.  

* We have more than tripled our staff to improve our monitoring,
support,
and rule generation capabilities.  Come January, we are again doubling
this
staff as the black-hats have gotten much more sophisticated and this has
become a 24x7 battle.  Even Pete needs to sleep sometimes. :-)

* We are adding new RD programs for AFF/419 spam and Malware mitigation
(many of the results from these projects have already been implemented).

* During this next year as part of our continuous improvement policy we
will
continue to roll out new features and enhancements such as fully
automated
reporting, in-band real-time updates, an optimized message processing
pipeline, image and file attachment tagging, advanced header structure
analysis, enhanced adaptive heuristics, improved machine learning
systems,
real-time wave-front threat detection, and many more...

It's important to recognize that many of our improvements don't require
new
software to be installed on the client side since they are delivered
through
rulebase enhancements. Though this often causes our work to go
unnoticed, it
is actually a design feature since it means that your installation
requires
very little maintenance. This translates to lowered administration costs
and
higher reliability.

As a result of this "reliability-first" design strategy, it may not
always
be obvious that our service is constantly being improved and enhanced -
we
never stand still ;-)

We'd hate to see any of you go, but please do compare us with other
services.
I'm sure that you'll find we're well worth the money, but it's always
good
to keep your options open. In fact, best practice these days for spam
filtering is to use a blended approach that leverages many services. We
personally encourage that for best results.

Please let me know if you have any questions.  Thank you for your
feedback
and business!

Sincerely

Michael Murdoch
The Sniffer Team
ARM Research Labs, LLC
Tel. 850-932-5338 x303 


-Original Messa

RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

2005-12-27 Thread Michael Murdoch
Thanks - Actually, I drive a Cadillac and it's just fine.  Good luck!
:-)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fox, Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 3:15 PM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

Might I suggest a visit to: http://www.lexus.com/cpo/ 
and a graduated price increase over the next two years?
A one or two year old Lexus is just as nice as a brand
new one, and would be a lot easier on our already
strained IT budgets.

Thanks,
--tlf


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Murdoch
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 3:57 PM
 To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
 Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
 
 1) The monthly rate is going to $ 45.00.
 
 2) It would be a one year extension to your current subscription and
 then your next renewal would be at the new price.  For 
 example, if your
 license expires 02/08/2006, your next renewal would be on 
 02/08/2007.  
 
 This is offer is completely optional and is available to all existing
 customers.  
 
 Thanks,
 MM
 
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 2) If we where to renew at the current rate, how long will 
 that rate be
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RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

2005-12-27 Thread Dave Koontz
Ah-ha!  I think I see now.  They need the money to buy new calculators for
their staff! (see below).  That said, even if they are right and it's a 34%
price increase, it is still unheard of from any company I've ever dealt
with.


Michael Murdoch's Calculator:
$325 x 1.34 (34% increase) = $435

My GOOD Calculator Says:
$325 x 1.5231 (53% increase) = $495


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Fox, Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 3:06 PM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

See, like I said: We haven't raised prices in a long time, we need the
money, like it or lump it.

We like the product, and will probably keep using it, but I'll be sure to
extract my 34% price increase through inane tech support requests, phone
calls, e-mails, etc.

If there really hasn't been a price increase in 5 years, a six or seven
percent increase per year makes more sense to me than 34% all at once. 

Such a huge increase, in such a short period of time, smacks of Someone
needs a new Lexus much more than it does we need to remain a viable
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RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

2005-12-27 Thread Fox, Thomas
Yeah, I figured it at about a 50% increase,
but I'm not that good at math and figured 
they were right Goes to show what I know. 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Koontz
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 4:55 PM
 To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
 
 Ah-ha!  I think I see now.  They need the money to buy new 
 calculators for
 their staff! (see below).  That said, even if they are right 
 and it's a 34%
 price increase, it is still unheard of from any company I've 
 ever dealt
 with.
 
 
 Michael Murdoch's Calculator:
 $325 x 1.34 (34% increase) = $435
 
 My GOOD Calculator Says:
 $325 x 1.5231 (53% increase) = $495
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Fox, Thomas
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 3:06 PM
 To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
 Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
 
 See, like I said: We haven't raised prices in a long time, 
 we need the
 money, like it or lump it.
 
 We like the product, and will probably keep using it, but 
 I'll be sure to
 extract my 34% price increase through inane tech support 
 requests, phone
 calls, e-mails, etc.
 
 If there really hasn't been a price increase in 5 years, a 
 six or seven
 percent increase per year makes more sense to me than 34% all 
 at once. 
 
 Such a huge increase, in such a short period of time, smacks 
 of Someone
 needs a new Lexus much more than it does we need to remain a viable
 business.
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

2005-12-27 Thread Darrell LaRock
Dave,

Ouch - bitter -

But in all fairness for the sake of math how can you round up from 1.5231
to 53%.  Should you have rounded down to 52%.

Darrell

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On Behalf Of Dave Koontz
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 4:55 PM
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Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

Ah-ha!  I think I see now.  They need the money to buy new calculators for
their staff! (see below).  That said, even if they are right and it's a 34%
price increase, it is still unheard of from any company I've ever dealt
with.


Michael Murdoch's Calculator:
$325 x 1.34 (34% increase) = $435

My GOOD Calculator Says:
$325 x 1.5231 (53% increase) = $495


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On Behalf Of Fox, Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 3:06 PM
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Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

See, like I said: We haven't raised prices in a long time, we need the
money, like it or lump it.

We like the product, and will probably keep using it, but I'll be sure to
extract my 34% price increase through inane tech support requests, phone
calls, e-mails, etc.

If there really hasn't been a price increase in 5 years, a six or seven
percent increase per year makes more sense to me than 34% all at once. 

Such a huge increase, in such a short period of time, smacks of Someone
needs a new Lexus much more than it does we need to remain a viable
business.





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RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

2005-12-27 Thread Michael Murdoch
Yep, you're right.  My mistake on the math, but the product/service is
worth every dollar of it.  If you don't feel that's the case, then you
are free to decide if you think otherwise.  Thanks and take care! 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell LaRock
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 4:02 PM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

Dave,

Ouch - bitter -

But in all fairness for the sake of math how can you round up from
1.5231
to 53%.  Should you have rounded down to 52%.

Darrell

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Dave Koontz
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 4:55 PM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

Ah-ha!  I think I see now.  They need the money to buy new calculators
for
their staff! (see below).  That said, even if they are right and it's a
34%
price increase, it is still unheard of from any company I've ever dealt
with.


Michael Murdoch's Calculator:
$325 x 1.34 (34% increase) = $435

My GOOD Calculator Says:
$325 x 1.5231 (53% increase) = $495


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Fox, Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 3:06 PM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

See, like I said: We haven't raised prices in a long time, we need the
money, like it or lump it.

We like the product, and will probably keep using it, but I'll be sure
to
extract my 34% price increase through inane tech support requests, phone
calls, e-mails, etc.

If there really hasn't been a price increase in 5 years, a six or seven
percent increase per year makes more sense to me than 34% all at once. 

Such a huge increase, in such a short period of time, smacks of Someone
needs a new Lexus much more than it does we need to remain a viable
business.





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RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!

2005-12-27 Thread Fox, Thomas
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Murdoch

 If you don't feel that's the case, then you
 are free to decide if you think otherwise.  Thanks and take care! 

EASY FOX TRANSLATION:

Like it, or lump it.


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