Hey guys, with one of the last gasps of RCSE, want to remind everyone about the
Mid Am that is being held at the Kentucky Horse Park on September 67. They
are flying seeded MOM, a first for BSS at the Mid Am, and we need to support
their efforts. The KHP has lots of things going on every
Well Mike, this is not a surprise in my book, but RCSE has been a great web
cornerstone for a lot of years for RC soaring. I will admit that I spend a
fair amount of time on RCGroups, and the pics and all are great. There is a
lot of gobbledygook there just like there has been the same here,
Here is the link if it comes through...
http://www.jrradios.com/Articles/Article.aspx?ArticleID=1822
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OVSS scores including Chicago have been posted
http://mvsaclub.com/mvsa/ovss/ovss08.htm
Thanks to Glauco and Chriss for updating the OVSS information.
See everyone at the Nats!
Marc
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Dam I'm an idiot
I think you pretty well hit it on the the head Craig, I could think of some
other thoughts too.
Happy 4th of July to all!
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The scores for the first OVSS contest in Cinci are up, and MVSA (Chris Lee and
Glauco Laugo) is being goods guys for posting n their site. The website we had
going has disappeared including the guy who ran it, not sure what happened.
Save this in your favorites and keep up all year.
Hey Ben, everyone is making over your appearance on History Channel, but you
made and interesting comment,
Under Larry's guidance and coaching, the Turkish Team is flying very well.
What is up about this, is Larry now part of Turkish F3J management or what?
Marc
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Hey Larry, had not seen that info on Groups, just was taken a bit by surprise.
Marc
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LOTS of energy on this slope.
For those that cannot get a heartbeat from this, you are dead. The scenes are
spectacular, and for the rule writers, I am sure you will be all bent out of
shape I would guess you could find some rule that is being broken I am sure.
Great stuff courtesy of Jim
Folks,
The LSF website has the 2008 Nats pages are updated including frequenies
allocated to certain events and the locations of each event. If you have any
questions, please contact me, Tom Kallevang, or Mike Stump.
http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2008/Nats2008.html
Thanks!
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Am not sure that this made it to the exchange, but this is the link for the
schedule thanks to Gordy.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82highlight=ovss+schedule
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The 2008 OVSS schedule is up on RC Groups, pretty much getting to be news
central for RC soaring.
Go to www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?+=82
Schedule has a nice spread of contests and time between each event, hope even
more fliers can make it.
Marc Gellart
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Tom, need to contact, Marc
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Tom,
Please ping me privately please.
Marc
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The Battle of Britain Memorial Flight 50th Anniversary flight.
If the mass formation fly-by doesn't give you goosebumps, well you must be a
jet guy!
http://www.airshowbuzz.com/videos/view.php?v=6fdfd0a0
A very cool video boys, makes your heart pound proud!
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I think it will be a while Dennis.
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Dennis,
The website says May 1, 2006 actually, the site is still active.
Marc
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Well Tim, you just lost me with your last comments. I guess the home town
crowd has gotten soft in Texas (was raised in Arlington). Here in OVSS land you
live and die to get the low save, downwind escape, faint read that no one else
gets. We are flying 6 to 7 rounds a day of 10-13 minute
I guess John, why sould there be a deduct if I still make my time with a lower
launch cause the WL gave?
WL's seem like a great idea, but have proved over time to not really work, I
would rather see us go to 200 pound line.
marc
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From what I have seen in this thread, the two real simple, straight forward
suggesions seem to be, lower capacity batteries like used in B, and lighter
line, like 200# (which the Dayton club already uses and it works just fine for
them except they have a great grass field and and no humps in
Hey Tony E., you are wrong about the largest ship to win the Nats. It was DP
with his Insanity, 3.7M.
And for the record, the line used at the Nats is 290# line from MT.
Marc
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After all this, this to me is just another reason to use FAI winches and thus
it would encourage FAI participation and encourge a bit of uniformity. Also,
they could just change F3J over to it too.
But none of this will probably happen since we are basically cheap and FAI sure
won't change
I wish someone would sell you something Mike. I am tired of you trying to buy
back to a Sharon after you sold yours and Joe who must have enough stuff to
sell that he will keep going for months ;.)
Just had to say it guys, you two have nearly been the entire show lately. Way
too much snow
Maybe distance and speed could be an evening task set? Oh, that sounds fun!
Looking forward to a great soaring contest in September. I am sure that some
will view this as just some east coast contest too, eh Chris?
Proud of the great soaring events held in the Ohio Valley!
Marc
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Guys, come back with email for me concerning calendar for 2008.
Marc
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Lee,
You need to contact pat Crosby in Chicago, he has a window based program that
even allows a pilots pic to be on his score card. Really slick and way better
than any data base system. He can stay ahead of a contest so that after the
big boys fly, the special needs group is ready to go,
Wrong Gordy, there is a DLG Vandal, check out RCG and find out. There are pics.
Marc
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On RCGroups tonight I saw something that I thought I would never see for sale,
a $1K DLG, it is a Vandal fullhouse ship with RADS. Be the first to admit that
I have spent my fair share on ships, but a DLG for $1000? That environment is
way too tough on airframes for me to toss that amount up
The scarey part is that George Voss has the high bid at 107 bucks, that cheap
guy is even worse than me, I would at least bid $110
Marc
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Sent to me by Mark Nankavil, pretty exciting ride I would have guessed.
Here's the link on the Super Hornet spin out - pretty cool!http://www.fencecheck.com
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for faithfully scoring. The Fall Round Up was a
great success and it was great to have folks from six states there for the
great weather and fun.
Marc Gellart
OVSS Coordiantor
2007 Soaring Nationals Event Director
LSF LV #121
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Dyslexia has only one cure on the flying field, a cranial-anal retraction
dutifully done by John Diniz. That goes down in my top ten of dumb stunts.
Thank goodness it did not effect another flier.
Marc
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One addendum I have to add to my report of last night. I left out two names
that came to mind this AM I had left out, one, our CD and very good friend Mark
Nankavil who we are all glad is back in the fold, and Arend Borst, I had never
met Arend before, and he is a class act, and heh, he is a
What a three days of flying this was, if you blew it off and did not come out
you missed the toughest contest I have ever seen. Conditions ranged from just
plain ugly, to beautiful, to some mix in between. As the good press agent Ben
Wilson has portrayed, just being there to watch the finals
Wrong Pepper, Don Harris has done it three times, and mostly with either wood or bagged ships. He is working on it again, that what happens when you retire.
Marc
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For the purests that are discussing the LSF right now, sorry, I have to write
about this. For the rest of us that are bored stiff, something to read.
I work for a company that sells a lot of Klein Tools, like we are the
second/third largest distributors in the U.S. Well, if you have not seen
Ben,
Your Cheap Battery Pack info is right on, but one thing you have stated I would
take note of. I do not hardly know of anyone that does not fast charge their
batteries, most at the field. I use a Sirius(both charger and cycler) for
everything, and others use other products, but fast
But is she bringing you to Chicago for the Fred???
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got a email (below) from my significant other today from her work.
god bless her!
or maybe god blessed
Just to lighten the mood a bit, was at www.youtube.com last evening looking at
a video of a 3D ship flying and kind of started watching some other flying
stuff. Wow, there is some cool stuff there. Three personal favorites:
Goodbye Hero-F-14 driver I think that is expousing his displeasure at
Well, yes. Go to the Soar Minden or Hanggliding.Org and look it up.
Guess the Hawker was letting down for Reno over Carson City NV nearly had a
head on with an ASW 27? at about 16K AGL. Hawker is owned by NetJet which a
relation flies for. When you see the pics, it is a mild miracle that all
Marc
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Stan, I thought that everyone was using coupled A-F now a days. Dr. Drela has
made it pretty clear that it lowers drag and you have a lot more authority on
less total throw, whether it is a Supra or not.
Marc
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Learned that from JB...
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And that big plane was on the money, just wish everyday was that good with my
thumbs.
MG
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Must be that damn big plane. :-)
Guys, ping me please.
Marc
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. i would geuss
that pilot's meeting is about 9:15AM.
Marc Gellart
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Bob, ping me please...
The cells are CBP-750AA
Marc
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Here you
go. New leader in the club house.
http://www.mvsaclub.com/ovss/ovss06.htm
these up and spit them back at me, but oh
well, my skin is pretty tough now. I had a week of a life time and I thank
the Bubbas, Jim Deck, and especially Jo Ellen for all their help with my LV
XC flight. The Bubbas were about to give up on me if I did not get it done
sometime soon.
Marc Gellart
Just a couple of comments from Chucks post.
First, the landing spot was dangerously close to the safety line. There
is no reason for the spot to be closer than 25 feet from the safety line.
The distance use to be more and had been shortened a number of years ago,
three I think. Yours was
Tony,
I would take note that the Organic was the 2m ship prior to this year. At
the Nats, there has never been any ship with greater numbers than the 2M
Duck. The Organic in many areas holds sway cause of it's availablility, and
it is a decent ship, but Ducks have always had the numbers
ready to go
is in the $1000 range, kind of nuts, but for those of that taste, it works
well.
Marc
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From: Marc
Ya, one flew, it was Mike Lackowski's(sp), and it blew up about half way
through the event...
Marc
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not
been in there. Ask Jim Deck about the trip.
I am sure that more is to come from folks, will have more to say later myself.
Marc Gellart
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George is right, it has been hot around IN/OH the last few days, but the
start of the Soaring Nats looks great. Temps for Friday and the weekend are
forecast in the low 80's and under 10 winds. After the last attempt at XC
two years ago, this looks like paradise. Look forward to seeing
How many folks are going to need batteries for F3B at the Nats?
I am going to be seeing our battery guys next Monday and will set the
number, if any, are needed. Also, I need the spec for the battery as well.
Marc Gellart
Nats ED
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OVSS scores are updated from the Mid South, head to the MVSA website and check
it out.
http://www.mvsaclub.com/ovss/ovss06.htm
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Hey Todd, the 770 RX is just fine, I am flying 5 of them. Do not let one guy
with an issue make you change. Do your range check and it is good, you are
fine.
Marc Gellrt
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Jim,
Saw an XL, not sure but was bigger than original
Topaz, first flight was a pop off and he flew it out. Really a gas bag, is
much better to carry than an AVA, lays entirely flat. There are days for
this ship for sure.
Marc
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Donna
Atta Boy Rick, welcome to the dark side. This shakes em'up everywhere it is
tried. I am going to try to make it down there if possible, might be a long
shot, but I will try. Glad to see others making the move.
Marc Gellart
From the home of Seeded MOM, the OVSS!
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Thanks Glauco!!!
Marc
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is Mid South for OVSS and some more MOM soaring.
Marc Gellart
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, check out the Gateway Open info that is coming up on June 16-18 at the
club sod farm field.
Marc Gellart
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Was making a pass through RC Groups this AM and found a post concerning ARF
Sagitta 600 and 900's from Esprit Models. They look really sweet, but,
always a but, the 600 has a span of about 82 and they are both flapped
wings. Appear to be built very will , all wood, so woody legal, and
composite
If you go to the following link at RC Groups, a complete Ohio Valley Soaring
Series schedule is there. A website directory for each club involved is also
available for fliers to know what is going on at each stop.
www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=493734#post5204772
Just as in the
Hey Red, do you really call Man-on-Man, Person-on-Person in Seattle or was that
a typo? If you do, political correctness has really gone to far!
Marc
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Great day in Ft. Wayne, 18 guys, great contest, close to a LV but just
needed a couple or three more guys and it would have been a voucher filler
for someone. Too bad, someone missed out!
Marc Gellart, CD
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for that Nats plaque. Also, to back up what Barry has said, I know that
many schedules finalize in the last minute, but if you know you are coming
go ahead and help Barry out and get that entry in. That means you
Siebanaler, git-r-done!
Marc Gellart
Nats ED
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...Gives guys lots of after hours flying time and Gordy can shoot more
landing in preperation
for that Nats plaque...
You will notice Chuck, that the reference was for fun flying, not the
contest, Lord hope and the river does not rise, we will not go late this
year so you will not miss your
Go to www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthreads.php?t=493734 and the schedule is
listed and club websites available to go to and confirm when information is
posted for the contests.
Marc Gellart
Man it is pretty today, soaring cannot be far off...
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Pepperkay, try this one:
www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=493734#post5204772
Marc
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While on the mend, was at Jo Jo's pages and went to Phil Kolb's log on his test
flying of his Pike Perfect, had a launch on mono from a hand tow of ~5.5s tow
time, 95 meter release, 216 gross launch height. That is a 2.27 return on your
release, I am kind of impressed, guess this is why I got
Dr. Drela is mentioned in an article about runway conditions at CHI-MDW during
Southwest accident in December. Any comments Dr. Drela?
Marc
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Got a new Pike giant for sale, full carbon, orange over black W/yellow stripes.
You can go to see details and pics at:
wwwrcgroups.com/froum/showthreads.php?t=486502#post5121713
Just have enough, well maybe not, but have an issue coming up and probably just
need to move this ship. $1250 for
David,
I think that Mr. Hunt was working in generalities in his statement, not
smashing RC soaring; remember that a RC soaring club is an RC club. Whether
any of us like it or not, power RC flying is the backbone of RC flying and it
is where the $'s are in advertising and production. Have
I do not know about if it is perfect, but I have the JR Module and love it. In
OVSS land, it is really nice to go to a contest and know you are the only guy
on a frequency so you can fly whenever and hopefully there is no one to turn on
you during the event, and it has happened once or twice
!
Marc Gellart
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Many thanks to George, and his dear wife, for putting up with us talking
soaring. We went back to the hotel after dinner and I showed him some videos
that were around the web on full size soaring. Really good time by all.
Goerge is a great host, just wished he was able to get out more and fly
Just a question here, your club buys the stopwatches? Never seen that before.
Marc
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Daryl,
Yopu need to watch a movie called Men With Brooms. Funnier than hell,
and you could learn some of the finer points of curling, including woman,
booze, wild living in Canada, and a beaver stampede, really.
Marc
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Anyone have some virgin servo arms for those red servos?
Marc
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Steve,
Do you read AMA's Model Aviation? There was an article showing Steve
Kaluf flying a big aero ship with the radio and talks about the fact that no
one needs pins with it and that it would not cause problems at the normal
flying field. Not sure which issue, but it was in the last two
Steve,
Do you read AMA's Model Aviation? There was an article showing Steve
Kaluf flying a big aero ship with the radio and talks about the fact that no
one needs pins with it and that it would not cause problems at the normal
flying field. Not sure which issue, but it was in the last two
After all this today, I want to thank Jim Deck and his student Richard, Jim
taught him the realities of RC soaring, and really any activity that takes
practice, patience, and some effort. I think all of us are very cognizant of
helping students and folks who walk out on our flying fields to
After all this today, I want to thank Jim Deck and his student Richard, Jim
taught him the realities of RC soaring, and really any activity that takes
practice, patience, and some effort. I think all of us are very cognizant of
helping students and folks who walk out on our flying fields to
Jim Monaco so aptly noted:
Dont forget the JR support they deserve a lot of credit for their continuing
support of soaring in the US aswell. Their gracious financial contribution is
greatly appreciated by theentire team!
Be sure to support those that support oursport as generously and as
Paul Naton had listed this website on RC Groups and it has some plainly
stunning pics of full scales, like multiple ships on landing and flybys in the
same pass. Really neat things to look at in your liesure.
www.gp06.com/gallery.php
Marc
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Jim,
You are correct, June 1-4, not sure what happened to John's note, but that
is what I have on the calendar.
Marc
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No, that is not a gadget, that is called insurance.
Marc
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Subject: [RCSE] You think a variometer is too much...what about this?
We have a guy that has
Wow, first time I have gotten to see the online RCSD, but Tom, you have to
give folks in the U.S. more stimulating stuff than the history of
Groveport.I woke up after paragraph three and had a drewl spot on
the desk. You got to get a life and get out of Ohio once in a while
man. Travel with
Imagine if your glider could sense thermals by onboard electronics and
actually soar them by itself.
Heck JB, I thought that was using a piccolario? I realize that it does not fly
for you, but throw an FMA Co-Pilot in and you darn near have it. Pretty much
takes all the fun out of it then I
Under the title of, Stupid People Trick please read below.
http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/World/2006/01/16/1396184-sun.html
Marc
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not after HL
on Friday. If you look to the right you will see HL Golf and the Banquet and
that is what is being refernced by this line, Tom could not make the title
outside the chart I would guess.
Hope that answers your questions.
Marc Gellart
2006 Soaring Nationals Event Director
From: Tom
The altitude question is not really a matter of fair but safety and contest
flow concerning the tows ships, that 2M span tow ship is mighty small at 4K.
This a soaring contest too, towing to unlimited height on a good day at Muncie
would put a ship so high in the column that it would be locked
But there was hell of a B-1 fly by in full burner, too bad the camera just
about missed it.
Too bad those darn tea-sipps won that football game, I am not an USC fan, but
the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Marc
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Go to Jo's website, www.grini.no and give his Nats video a look (in hi sidary
section). It is 12+ minutes but is great to bring some warm memories of
Muncie. Very good job Jo.
Marc
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Try this Jim, www.workflow.as/jogrini/diary/index.htm
Go to December 25, and it is below his pics for the X-Mas day fun fly. I tried
to pull an immediate address and could not find one.
You know you are there when you see Gordy, you are prominate in there at a spot.
Marc
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Damn Daryl, are you that bored on New Years Eve that you had time to write
this all down? I do not feel that bad, at least I was somewhere warm for
the week.
Happy new Years to all, '06 is looking really good!
Marc
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Jim,
I have heard of some gluttens for punishment, but this project wins the award.
Marc
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