Re: Permanent DST

2016-11-26 Thread Richard Langley
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Re: Permanent DST

2016-11-25 Thread Frank King
Dear John, You are right to point out the error of Doug's ways. I have been known to do this myself :-) That said, this isn't quite right either... > It is only the benighted people who > are forced to live in the northern > hemisphere who persist with the > belief of a southerly sun. I have

Re: Permanent DST

2016-11-25 Thread John Pickard
, John John Pickard john.pick...@bigpond.com Sydney, Australia 33o 39.5’S 151o 06.4’E From: Douglas Bateman Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 5:31 AM To: Barbara and Augustine McCaffrey Cc: Sundial list Subject: Re: Permanent DST Dear Barbara and Augustine, I am flattered that you

Re: Permanent DST

2016-11-25 Thread Douglas Bateman
Dear Barbara and Augustine, I am flattered that you are following this dialogue, and I’m sure Frank is too. Frank wishes to wind up the discussion, and this can be my final, and personal, contribution. First of all, it is obvious that Frank is both happy to be a very early riser and is

Re: Permanent DST

2016-11-25 Thread Frank King
Dear Doug, It is probably time to conclude this fascinating discussion so this will be my final public offering (for a while). > A significant part of my note is > reporting the work of others... Indeed so. I am familiar with most of your citations, especially, the report by the Cambridge

Re: Permanent DST

2016-11-23 Thread Douglas Bateman
Dear Frank, You have done me the honour of at least reading my attachment, and in your reply I will gloss over the comment where you seem to imply that I am deliberately telling lies. A significant part of my note is reporting the work of others such as our former Government agency, the

Re: Permanent DST

2016-11-23 Thread Frank King
Dear Doug, I read your message and your attachment. There are so many flaws in your analysis that it is difficult to know where to begin. Since you find road accident statistics so compelling I shall confine myself to demolishing all you have to say there... There is a wonderful book by

Re: Permanent DST

2016-11-22 Thread Douglas Bateman
Dear Tony, Your ‘natural geometry of daylight’ is an interesting concept, and more useful than the frequent rants by those who I am going to call the ‘blanket botherers’. (As inspired the oft quoted: Only a white man could possibly believe that by cutting a foot off one end of a blanket and

Re: Permanent DST

2016-11-22 Thread Tony Finch
Frank King wrote: > > You can get out of bed whenever you wish on any day of the year > so it is... Well, lucky people can, but many people have externally imposed constraints on their timetables - school times, shop opening times, working shift times, delivery restriction

Re: Permanent DST

2016-11-21 Thread Frank King
Dear John, You reply... > I have to take issue with your notion > that God ... handed us a 24 hour clock. I suggest you read my message a little more carefully. a) I didn't mention God at all. b) I was exceptionally careful to spell out that the 24-hour clock was irrelevant. I was

Re: Permanent DST

2016-11-20 Thread John Pickard
...@bigpond.com -Original Message- From: Frank King Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 4:02 AM To: sundial@uni-koeln.de Subject: Re: Permanent DST Dear All, John Pickard notes... As a consequence in summer you can meet more than five different times in Australia which means that on a long

Re: Permanent DST

2016-11-20 Thread John Pickard
Hi Kevin, You have made my day with the Churchill quote. Brilliant. Cheers, John John Pickard john.pick...@bigpond.com From: Kevin Karney Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 9:20 PM To: John Pickard Cc: sundial@uni-koeln.de Subject: Re: Permanent DST Nothing much changes! UK Daylight

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2016-11-20 Thread Frank King
Dear All, John Pickard notes... > As a consequence in summer you can > meet more than five different times > in Australia which means that on a > long trip you can spend a lot of > time changing the clocks in cameras, > etc. So why bother? The clock in my camera stays at UTC whether I am in

Re: Permanent DST

2016-11-20 Thread Kevin Karney
does show that "time" as shown on a clock > face is often irrelevant. > > > Cheers, John > > John Pickard > john.pick...@bigpond.com > > -Original Message- From: Isabella McFedries > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 4:02 PM > To: sundial@un

Re: Permanent DST

2016-11-20 Thread Donald Christensen
easible in high > latitudes in summer with very extended daylight hours. But it does show > that "time" as shown on a clock face is often irrelevant. > > > Cheers, John > > John Pickard > john.pick...@bigpond.com > > -Original Message- From: Isabella McFed

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2016-11-19 Thread John Pickard
y extended daylight hours. But it does show that "time" as shown on a clock face is often irrelevant. Cheers, John John Pickard john.pick...@bigpond.com -Original Message- From: Isabella McFedries Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 4:02 PM To: sundial@uni-koeln.de Subjec

Re: Permanent DST

2016-11-19 Thread Isabella McFedries
In message Dan-George Uza wrote: > Dear group, > > We are witnessing a few interesting developments! After Turkey decided a > few months ago to remain on Daylight Saving Time all year round,