[SURVPC] Swatch Time

1999-03-14 Thread Charles Dye

Ole Juul [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes re. Swatch Time:

  Besides, I don't know about the idea of changing to base
10 for time measurement. If it should be changed to fit in
better with computers and the internet, perhaps base 16
would be more practical. Anyway, I could rant for a long
time about the poor choice of base 10 for numbers in
general .. but I won't. VBG

Does that strange Swatch format remind anyone else of the
bizarre French Revolutionary calendar?

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[SURVPC] Perils of ScanDisk

1999-03-14 Thread Charles Dye

Bernie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes re: Disk compression trivia

The biggest problem with 6.0 (and all after) is that ScanDisk is included.
this has trashed several good working floppys for me, and even taken a
piece of my hardrive (w95 starts it every time that I have to close Win
with Crtl-Alt-Del or the power button)
Others might have diffrent things to complain about (or think that ScanDisk
is great) but I certainly don't think so.

Heh!  Flashback to one of the first Win95 OSR2 systems I ever worked on.
That damn machine would *never* shut down, no matter how long you waited
at the "Please wait while" screen.  Plug-and-Pray had automatically
installed the wrong IDE driver, but I didn't know that at the time.

I also didn't know the AutoScan=0 trick, and as the computer had thousands
upon thousand of files, it always took ten minutes to boot up.  I put up
with this nonsense through about five or six reboots, then decided I'd had
enough.

Renamed SCANDISK.EXE to something else.  Fired up DEBUG.  Created a one-
byte program (a single RET opcode) and named it SCANDISK.EXE.  Bootup was
a lot faster from then on.  End user was *amazed* at how quickly the new
ScanDisk did its job  :-)

Perhaps what you state about sartdrive is the reason I've never used it? I
heard that it wasn't good and i had never heard of it, so I removed it from
my autoexec.bat and it has never found it's way back unless I test it for
some reason (namely Arachne speed comparsions)

I use ScanDisk when I'm using MS/PC DOS.  The newer versions do make a
noticeable improvement.  But I never, ever install it as a write-back
cache.  The slight performance boost is not worth the risks to me.

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[SURVPC] Chips In Spaaaaaaace!

1999-03-14 Thread Charles Dye

Or Botton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes re: new box?

On 10 Mar 99 at 18:55, Bernie wrote:

 This is the reason that NASA aren't using any faster CPU than 386 in space,
 the newer will much more easily be destroyed while out there.

Actually, I heard it was a 486 laptop that serves as the main-computer
on space-station Mir.. or was it Sky-lab?

Skylab lost its happy thoughts and fell out of the sky long before there
was a 486.  As for Mir, I think the onboard computer is a vacuum-tube
clone of the Timex ZX-81.  :-)

(I am told, however, that early space shuttles used core-memory
computers.  I don't know this for a fact, but it's an... intriguing...
claim.)

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Re: [SURVPC] Disk compression trivia

1999-03-14 Thread Charles Dye

Ben A L Jemmett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

instead of pressing Control-Alt-Delete got nasty surprises.  (Yes, me too.)
Well I've always used INT 19h - or is it 18h? - which SmartDrive should hook.
Hopefully.

Ought to.  Still, I'd throw in an INT 21/.AH=0D just to be on the safe side.

MS-DOS 6.20 had the improved DoubleSpace.  6.21 didn't -- it was the post-
lawsuit, cover-our-butt release, and a funny DOS it was.  DoubleSpace was
not included, and the help files were changed to reflect its absence.
Ah.  This must have been what I was thinking of as MS-DOS 6.1...

Microsoft version numbering makes less and less sense to me with each
passing year.  Windows 95 OSR2 used MS-DOS 7.1, and Win98 uses a
different (larger) MS-DOS 7.1.  Huh?

And added a few disks to the diskset...  AFAIK PNW added 3 floppies to the
1.44Mb set - unless PNW shipped with DR DOS = 6...

(Digs through antiques box)  DR DOS 6:  Two 1.2M floppies.  Novell DOS 7:
Seven 1.44M floppies.  And they lost the ViewMax file manager, not that
it was anything to write home about.

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Re: [SURVPC] why a surv. PC?

1999-03-14 Thread Charles Dye

Or Botton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes re: why a surv. PC?

Well, I really do need the multi-tasking features..
About the windows multi-tasking, the bad side is that it will
multi-task better Windows programs. Unfortunatly, you cant run more
then one DOS programs in most Windows 95 installs i've seen. Normally
when you leave the DOS window it will freeze until you get back to
it.. and even in installs where for some reason the DOS window
kept running in the background, you still couldnt do more then
1 DOS window at the time. If you had 2, then only the current
one would keep on working. I wander why is that? Maybe windows
only got Task Switching for DOS tasks, or it just takes too
many resources?

I have gleefully reformatted my last Win95 box.  However, I
distinctly remember a "Background" button, visible on the
upper toolbar when the DOS box was windowed (i.e., neither
minimized nor full-screen.)  If the button was "out" the
task would freeze any time the window lost focus; if "in"
the task would keep chugging along in the background.

I think the little picture on the button was something like
two overlapping rectangles.  (IMO this is a flaw in WIMP
environments generally.  You could spend hours trying to
figure out what some dinky icon means, when a well-chosen
word or two would make it obvious.)

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[SURVPC] now the dragon gets four heads

1999-03-14 Thread hammer

No doubt there will be enormous noise after that M$ announcement to
split up into 4 ...

What struck me as potentially a same kind of "classic" quote (and
newspeak) like the one of "640 KB should be enough for everybody", was
this tiny bit from what the BBC carried of Gates's OB sound in Tokyo
on friday:

"The Internet is a global standard !"

Now what does this mean, or signal ?

(a.) a Dole-like(*), deep insight ?
(b.) an announcement that M$ wants to buy it ?
(c.) an announcement that M$ already has bought it ?
(d.) Alzheimer ?

(Each "Yes" answer gives 1 point. Cumulation allowed. Most points win.)

Heimo Claasen/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Brussels 1999-03-13
HomePage of ReRead - and much to read == http://www.inti.be/hammer

(*) "The Internet is a great way to get on the net" - Bob Dole

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Re: [SURVPC] External dialing with Arachne

1999-03-14 Thread Lars-Einar Jansson

Hi!

The freeware dialler/packet-driver included in the Bobcat package,
Netdial/DOSPPPD, doesn't rewrite the wattcp-cfg-file everytime, but
instead sets the changing ip-addresses as environment values if you,
via a batch-file, choose to run the batch-file "ip-up.bat" which is
automatically generated by DOSPPPD every time you connect.

Wayne Buttles/John Lewis then choose to echo those values to a file
called "path.cfg", which is then included in "wattcp.cfg" via the
statement: "include=..\path.cfg". Another way of doing it is via the
"bootstrap protocol", by adding the line "my_ip=bootp" to wattcp.cfg.

They have written long, over 2k, and rather complex but elegant
batch-files to accomplish all this in a way which makes everything
very simple for the user. Setup is also automated via batch-files.

Earlier versions of the Bobcat-package included dialler-batch-files
and pre-prepared directory structures for future inclusion of Arachne.

Perhaps studying the Bobcat-package might bring you some ideas on how
to solve your problem. You can find Bobcat at http://www.fdisk.com

The version called "Bobcat 386" is based on a newer version of Lynx
and runs 32-bit DOS via DJGPP (?), and is much faster than the regular
Bobcat. Doesn't have it's out-of-memory problems either. The Bobcat
package also includes separate gopher, telnet and ftp-clients.

Lars-Einar Jansson
Stockholm, Sweden

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Re: [SURVPC] why a surv. PC?

1999-03-14 Thread Casper Gielen

 Y'know, the windows bashing and gates bashing has left the arena of
 intelligent complaints and gone into habitual rudeness.  We really wanna
 behave that way?  I do see good things about windows.  It has brought a lot
 more people into contact with each other, people who can't drive a computer
 themselves.  It has opened computing up to the ordinary man and woman.
I wasn't really serious on this one, but ok, I'll get along.
IMHO it's DOS (yes, especially MS-DOS which used to be the best) and
Apple who should be praised for opening up computing.
Windows should be blamed for destroying the picture. I admit Apple's
and (especially) DOS machines need more knowledge than Win machines
for basic operation. But that lack of basic knowledge shows up twice
as hard if something goes wrong. People make a little mistake (eg
a typo or "clicko") and something happens they didn't expect.
They don't know how to handle or even recognize there errors
and just blame it on the computer. For most people computers and
Windows are the same.  Thus they think all computers are only
good at crashing and trashing data. With the coming of Linux this
starts to change, but the image of computers most people have
is still very bad. This I blame MS-Windows for.
 Gates was raised common, poor maybe, though I'm not sure about that, and he
 used his talents, skills and wit to become wealthy and powerful.  He
 continues to do that to stay wealthy and powerful and there are few men who
 wouldn't fall into that trap.  "power corrupts, absolute power corrupts
 absolutely".  When you are standing on the mountain, you don't see the
 people anymore, just their works.  I don't respect what Gates does, but I
 admire how he did it!
I do note hate Bill Gates. Although his company did some rather
nasty thing in the last few years, I don't blame him personal for
this. As you do I admit he is a genius using his talents at bussiness
and marketing to become rich. If I had been in his position I probably
would have done the same (provided I was smart enough to make up his
moves). I admit he did some very good marketing, but I don't like it.
As I have to admit Hitler was very charismatic and good at PR, but I
still don't like his ways.
--
Casper Gielen
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.wxs.nl/~vcmeaned
--
The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the
day they start making vacuum cleaners.

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Re: [SURVPC] Data monitors... (Slightly OT)

1999-03-14 Thread Pop

How simple would a data in one com port, data out another program be?
You could set up another PC like my wooden 386 (which I'm typing this
on now) which has the modem plugged in to the com port it needs to
be. You connect your 'usage' PC to the the input COM port (which has a
different irq) with a nul modem cable, and write the program to relay
the data sent between the ports. The extra PC with the modem (and
UART capable of the desired speed) acts as the modem, but logs
everything to a file.

Much better than the way it was done in the book "The Cuckoos Egg"
where he used a printer and a few trees worth of paper.

I wonder if this is possible, and maybe someone with a good comms
library could whip it up?

On 12 Mar 99 at 11:18, Peter Torrano punched in:

 Does anybody know of an application that can tell me the data flux and
 rate coming in and out of my PC via ethernet or PPP?

 Where can I find such a beas?

 My interest is mainly in preventing unnauthorised hackers etc. , so, If i
 see activity that I don't expect I know to suspect something.

 KnowwhatImean?

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[SURVPC] External dialer program for Internet

1999-03-14 Thread Will Baldwin

   Date:Sat, 13 Mar 1999 23:54:50 +0200
   I am going to start selling old computers for low prices for
   people who cannot afford new expensive computers. mainly by
snip...

   I want to be able to use the Arachne dialer to connect to the
   internet, but without actually running Arachne. This is because
   of a program-menu I will put in the computer. I want to put
   a "dial to the internet" option in it, which will use the
snip...

Funny you should ask.  I wrote my own dialer program. Basically, it
will dial the ISP, execute a logon script, then set DTR high before
exiting, letting your applications take over the Comm port. It is
extremely stable, easy to cancel if necessary, returns 6 different
logical Errorlevels, and even plays some musical notes once it
connects, to alert you in case you've gone into the next room, or are
otherwise occupied.  It can also 'WaitFor' any of 10 different
'Receive' strings from the ISP, and then jump to any point in the
script, depending on the string it receives.  The user can also easily
insert a delay for re-dialing at reasonable intervals, in case the ISP
is busy.

I use it as a replacement for the 'Chat.exe' program bundled with
DOSPPPD.

Here is the File_id.diz file:

DialPC V1.00.  Freeware!  MS-DOS. DialPC is
an easy to use software tool for use with
your modem.  One example of DialPC's use is
to call your ISP, then exit, leaving DTR high
to allow a packet driver to immediately latch
the same comm port.  DialPC features a
comprehensive script command set, the ability
to 'jump to' any label, to delay  re-dial in
case of 'Busy' signal, etc.  Returns logical
Errorlevels for testing in *.bat files.

It is freeware, and very extensively documented.  I would be happy to
email you the program, or any lurkers, as well.

Also, I've been looking for an FTP repository where I could place this
program.  Does anyone know of a good place?

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DOS = Your PC.  Windows = Your PC on drugs.  Any questions?

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[SURVPC] freeware networking

1999-03-14 Thread ejvdwp

Could anyone point me toward free networking software? I'd like to play
with my home systems and see what I can set up. Any other resources for
networking on the cheap would be appreciated as well. I am working with 386 and 486 
machines running MSDOS 6.22 and windows 3.1
though I may soon convert one machine to linux as I'd like to investigate it.

DriftwoodDave




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Re: [SURVPC] Disk compression trivia

1999-03-14 Thread Bjorn Simonsen

On 13 Mar 99, Charles Dye wrote :

 There was no MS-DOS 6.1x.  There was an IBM DOS 6.1, which included a
 *coupon* for SuperStor/DS (which eventually was included with IBM DOS
 6.3.)

You are wrong, but you could still be right. I've got PC-DOS 6.1 here,
and it came with SuperStore/DS! No coupons, it came included on the
original install disks.

This is the Norwegian version though, so you could be right as far
as the US version goes. If my notes are correct the US/English version
of PC-DOS 6.1 first came out in June 1993, and version 6.3 followed in
November same year, while Norwegian ver. 6.1 have file dates of 19
November 93. In other words; the Norwegian ver. 6.1 was released about
the same time the new US ver. 6.3, which could explain why SuperStore/DS
came included with the Norwegian 6.1 but (maybe) not the US 6.1.

 As I understand it, at the time when Microsoft was telling the world
 that DoubleSpace compression was "integrated" and "built into" MS-DOS
 6, they were also telling IBM that DoubleSpace was a competely
 separate product from MS-DOS 6, and therefore not included in IBM's
 license of Microsoft DOS source.  DoubleSpace doublethink!

Doublethink and doublespeak doubles the moneyg

 (Web browser parallels left as an exercise for the student.)

Good point! To bIE or not to bIE,  that's the question!

Btw: I never used SuperStore/DS. Purchased Stacker 4.0 instead
(w/upgrade 4.1 for WfW 32BFA support). Never experienced a problem with
it, no data loss at all, runs smoothly, maybe since I perform weekly
check and de-fragmentation, and monthly full re-compression. Found a
rebuild utility on Stac's site. Never used it. Assume it works
something like fdisk /mbr. To the original question that triggered this
thread, don't know if it will also rebuild a Dblspaced vol file. Only
one way to find out I guess.

Ps: Thanks for *Locate*, a real power utility! :-)
http://www.highfiber.com/~raster/locate.zip
For those not yet familiar with it, nice review found
here: http://home.sprynet.com/~rlgreen/filefind.htm#locate

All the best,
Bjorn

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Re: [SURVPC] Disk compression trivia

1999-03-14 Thread Bernie

Does any one know how to format a flopy disk whith ms dos 622 or higher
so that drvspace.bin wont automatically be included in the system transfer?
As well as be loaded, wheather you use it or not.

removing it afterwards shouldn't make a problem occour. you could also try:
format a:
sys c: a:
will that copy the doublespace file to the floppy?

Oh, yah, what about pressing control C when the press any key to run
scandisk comes up?

Interesting idea, but I would have to do it again the next time the PC
starts wouldnt I?
Also if I turn the PC on and go do something else in the mean time (ex.
answering the phone, searching CDs etc.) scandisk will start after a time
interval (30 sec?) I find this very strange and really annoying since I
can't leave the PC when it boots W95.

Now there isn't ay problems with this anymore since I only get an error
stating that I need M$-DOS 6 to run D:\Dod\ScanDisk.Exe since it still can
find it in my path.
Another boring thing is if I leave my modem on and reboot and start
Windows, then it tries to "install it". (I thought I did that when I
plugged it in?)

I'll add the line autoscan=0 to msdos.sys later (when I feel an urge to see
the Star Wars trailer)

BTW: All of you that don't have W95 (with QuickTime 3) and want to see
something from the trailer for Episode I: "The Phantom Menace" can visit my
homepage I put some images up there (28 to be exact). Now I need to find
out how to copy the sound from the movie file (a conversion to a more
normal codec would also be nice so QV could show it to me). Any help will
be apriciated.
(I also got the poster in a diffrent JPEG format then on the official site
so ex. Arachne users can see it.)
My homepage: http://hem1.passagen.se/bernie/
//Bernie

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Re: [SURVPC] new box?

1999-03-14 Thread Chad A. Fernandez

On 1999-03-13 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
   Actually, I heard it was a 486 laptop that serves as the
   main-computer on space-station Mir.. or was it Sky-lab?
   Or Botton

Not Sky-Lab..Sky-Lab was back in the 70's, Waaayyy, before the 486
came out.

Chad A. Fernandez
Battle Creek, MI



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Re: [SURVPC] converting msworks database file

1999-03-14 Thread Bernie

 I haven't used Works since 89 or something like that so I don't know how
 Snip!
 But why not get a copy of your colleagues M$Works? That should be the
 easiest soluttion for everyone (but not the most legal).

Hm.. you just said you didnt used it since 89, which means its an
over 10 years old program. Wouldnt that make MSWorks an abandonware
by now?..

Probably, but I just keep it around in case I want to install my (also
original) M$ Works 3.0 for Windows upgrade.
Funny, most of the programs I use aren't illegally copied. Shareware/PD and
the few that my father has got from his work are working great. (The (M$)
licenses from my fathers work makes it possible for me to use any of the
programs that he has there on my own computer, but I have only the older
versions that I've even been able to get original floppies and/or books for
installed on my PC.)
I still use the same M$-DOS that came with my first (own) PC 5 years ago.

I even think that swedish law says that I can't save a file for more than 5
years or something equaly stupid ;)
(Or atleast this was the case a few years back)
//Bernie

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