Re: [biofuel] racecar methanol

2002-04-20 Thread Keith Addison
Peter, Racers blend oil with their alcohol, making it less than desireable as a component for manufacturing biodiesel. If the alcohol in question is purchased before anything is added, it should be fine. The racers probably get their alcohol in bulk. If you can find out where the bulk plant

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread Keith Addison
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for answering. I had thought it would stop war in the OPEC countries. THat one isn't clear to me. (snip) I would offer that as the OPEC nations melt down from the oil barons of the world of today, back to nomadic goat herders that the killing would be blood

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread glenne1949
Kirk, it appears to me that you are asking the wrong question. This is like asking what would happen if there were a free lunch, or if there were a perpetual motion machine. These are but dreams that will never happen. There isn't any such thing, and never can be. Every process has its

RE: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread kirk
Very mild on this list compared to others. When I replied to a post on another list that nothing had ever been contributed by Arabs I asked if the Alphabet and our system of numbers wouldn't be considered a contribution. The reply I got was the people are a different people now. There is a

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 08:37:04AM -0600, kirk wrote: I hate deception because manipulation is a form of witchcraft. Truly evil conduct. Hold on there -- what's evil about witchcraft, the craft of the wise? Wicca is an extremely benevolent and peaceful religion, unlike christianity. I'd

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread Paul Gobert
- Original Message - From: Harmon Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust Well said Harmon, I don't have your wealth of knowledge on this subject but I certainly

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread steve spence
and child molestation in the name of Catholicism? child molestation is not taught by Catholicism, war and evil are not taught by the founders of many religions. done in the name of is not the same thing as condoned and taught by. I can claim to be a wiccan, and eat someone's heart, but am I

[biofuel] Cultural Fax Paus (was Re: Huge Hydrogen Stores Found...)

2002-04-20 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 11:51:40AM -0400, steve spence wrote: and child molestation in the name of Catholicism? child molestation is not taught by Catholicism, No, but a good case can be made that the truly rampant mental illness in western culture (compared to most eastern and third world

Re: [biofuel] Re: Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread Kris Book
It is more likely that you would end up like Rudolf Diesel,an apparent suicide victim. I have a list somewhere in my files that describes what bad luck each of about 50 different inventors had in the last century after they made discoveries that could have benefited mankind. I'll post it if I

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread Kim Garth Travis
kirk wrote: There is a deliberate propaganda effort to demonize Arabic peoples and I loathe propaganda because it always presages violence. There is a plan afoot and it smells of blood. I hate deception because manipulation is a form of witchcraft. Truly evil conduct. Kindly re-read

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread George Wessel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very mild on this list compared to others. When I replied to a post on another list that nothing had ever been contributed by Arabs I asked if the Alphabet and our system of numbers wouldn't be considered a contribution. The reply I got was the people are a different

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread Monty Berg
Goerge, Here are a few things I've put together. Since we had breached the topic and gone into religon and politics I'll post this here. Off topic as all get out but don't think for a second the west is on any high moral ground. January 16, 1991, when then President Bush attacked Baghdad,

[biofuel] Re: Remember, here you have the freedom to write like this

2002-04-20 Thread Shukrainternationals
But, my friend, it the same US where you have the courage and rights to spill out your anger. Don;t forget THAT. Now, can you go to any place in mid east and write against a Government there? Com'on my friend, don't get carried away by false propaganda. See where your freedom and rights are

RE: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread kirk
They always convince the peasants they are doing God's work as they slaughter each other. There is a difference between Christianity and religion. Christ himself warned of this. He foretold that many would come in his name but be deceivers. Wolves in sheep's clothing. So what do you call

[biofuel] Re: Remember, here you have the freedom to write like this

2002-04-20 Thread Keith Addison
Shukrainternationals wrote: But, my friend, it the same US where you have the courage and rights to spill out your anger. Don;t forget THAT. Now, can you go to any place in mid east and write against a Government there? Com'on my friend, don't get carried away by false propaganda. See where

RE: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread kirk
I think the work on this group is doing more in the real world to bring peace than 99% of what is going on by politicians and military. The fighting is fueled by money and a perceived need to control oil. If we use home grown fuel then we keep the money at home and we don't need to mess with

RE: [biofuel] Re: Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread kirk
I would love to see that list. Kirk -Original Message- From: Kris Book [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 12:13 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust It is more likely that you would end up like

Re: [biofuel] Re: Remember, here you have the freedom to write like this

2002-04-20 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 07:17:28AM +0900, Keith Addison wrote: Are you saying, Chandra, that Monty is being dishonest? You think what he's said is false propaganda? It's all true, and rather more besides. Why not yourself have an honest look at what he's saying, then go back a bit in

RE: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread AOAR Welch B.
everybody thinks their religion is better than everyone else's (even if they're not religious). but that doesn't have anything to do with this group. -Original Message- From: Kim Garth Travis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 10:27 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread Keith Addison
Shukrainternationals wrote: - Original Kieth: when did you change the objectives of this site to hate mongaring? I was about to invoke Godwin's Law (let's drop this whole thread before we all end up calling each other Nazis), but it looks like I'm probably too late. So I'll thank you

RE: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread AOAR Welch B.
Christ is free energy! -Original Message- From: kirk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 2:09 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust They always convince the peasants they are doing God's work as they

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 04:09:02PM -0600, kirk wrote: They always convince the peasants they are doing God's work as they slaughter each other. There is a difference between Christianity and religion. Christ himself warned of this. He foretold that many would come in his name but be

[biofuel] religion and biofuel...

2002-04-20 Thread ntesla
I don't know why potentially interesting email lists degenerate - or esculate (depending on your bias) into discussions of religion. I hope this list can get back on point. There is MUCH I want to learn about biofuel. Anyone specialize in hemp as the basis for biofuel? Dick. On Sat, Apr

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread Mike Frieders
Kirk, I don't know where you get off knocking witchcraft, the wicken religion was a very peaceful religion and harmonious with nature. The very demonizing you say is being applied to the Arabs, you are applying to the Wickens. Mike kirk wrote: Very mild on this list compared to others. When

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread Steven-Lee Craig
Harmon, Sounds like you have really studied. In fact if you know as much about religion as you say, I would say you are an expert on the subject. Too bad you didn't realize that study of religion is as a potent poison as one can ingest. After all, look what conclusion you came to. You dumped the

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread Mike Frieders
Perhaps we could get back to the subject of bio-diesel. Someone was experimenting with electricity in seperating out the glycerin. Did you have any luck? What about temperature, will cold for example cause the glycerin to seperate out of solution? Does glycerin freeze before BD or the other

Re: [biofuel] hydraulic system lubrication

2002-04-20 Thread George Wessel
You don't mention what kind of hydraulic system your using. In my machinery I have to change the hydraulic oil on a annual basis because the additives in the oil break down, not the oil. After the additives break down the system is only about half as effective as before. I just got to

Re: [biofuel] Re: Remember, here you have the freedom to write like this

2002-04-20 Thread steve spence
How much do you need? ;-) Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/2000/humanpower.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[biofuel] great inventions...

2002-04-20 Thread ntesla
I have to agree with [EMAIL PROTECTED] that such a system could not be stopped by governments or large corporations. The only thing that could stop its spread would be the philosophy/greed/secrecy of the inventor. If he had such a system and was more interested in a dollar in his pocket than

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread steve spence
Nice fantasy. No truth to it, but what the hell. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport -

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 08:04:24PM -0400, Steven-Lee Craig wrote: Harmon, Sounds like you have really studied. In fact if you know as much about religion as you say, I would say you are an expert on the subject. That's correct -- I not only have a degree from the Univ. of Wisc. that

RE: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread kirk
I believe the practice of witchcraft involves love potions etc. does it not? So the free will of another is fair game? Hm. . . Manipulation for gain. You see nothing wrong with that? Kirk -Original Message- From: Mike Frieders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 07:37:17PM -0600, kirk wrote: I believe the practice of witchcraft involves love potions etc. does it not? So the free will of another is fair game? Hm. . . Manipulation for gain. You see nothing wrong with that? Hoboy! Where do you get that stuff from, Kirk?

RE: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread AOAR Welch B.
I just released some hydrogen sulfide gas.Is this free energy? just trying to get back on subject. -Original Message- From: Harmon Seaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 5:37 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below

[biofuel] perpetual motion machine for sale

2002-04-20 Thread Martin Klingensmith
I'll show you how my perpetual motion machine works, for $20 all you need is a hamster, and a hollow wheel supported above the ground. and for only $20 I'll draw you a picture! = -Martin Klingensmith http://archive.nnytech.net/ http://devzero.ath.cx/ http://www.nnytech.net/

Re: [biofuel] religion and biofuel...

2002-04-20 Thread Appal Energy
Specialize? No. But we've made ~1,200 gallons of methyl cannabate. It's as good as any other fuel fresh out of the tank, from the energy output and functionality perspectives. One small problem with both it and methyl linate (linseed biodiesel). Both oils are drying oils. That's why they work

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 06:10:29AM +0400, AOAR Welch B. wrote: I just released some hydrogen sulfide gas.Is this free energy? Absolutely the most erudite and enlightened statement of the evening. Is your real name Ikkyu? OTOH, how is it free? Mine is produced at a significant cost of

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread robert luis rabello
Harmon Seaver wrote: You see, that's just what the problem is, the concept that christians have that theirs is the only true way, and so that gives them the right to torture, burn heretics and witches at the stake, destroy temples and sacred literature, and imprison or even kill

Re: [biofuel] Cultural Fax Paus (was Re: Huge Hydrogen Stores Found...)

2002-04-20 Thread MH
Harmon Seaver wrote: Actually it was on topic, as the thread had changed to cultural fax paus. Sorry, my undergraduate degree from the UW was in religious studies (in fact I'm seriously considering going back for a Ph.D in Shinto and other earth religions), so I'm acutely aware of

Re: [biofuel] Re: Remember, here you have the freedom to write like this

2002-04-20 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 08:36:59PM -0400, steve spence wrote: How much do you need? ;-) That depends. Right now I'd need enough to buy an equivalent house in, say, Costa Rica, and enough cash to live there a couple years at least, if I couldn't work for whatever reasons. OTOH, if times get

Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust

2002-04-20 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 08:42:07PM -0400, steve spence wrote: Nice fantasy. No truth to it, but what the hell. No truth, eh? Gee, looked exactly like my kid's history books. Did they change them again? -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com