I think the work on this group is doing more in the real world to bring peace than 99% of what is going on by politicians and military. The fighting is fueled by money and a perceived need to control oil.
If we use home grown fuel then we keep the money at home and we don't need to mess with their politics. A win win situation. Anything to reduce fuel consumption is a plus as well. Insulating shutters on windows are one of the best things you can make for the cost/benefit ratio. They have to be used, of course, and that is a problem. Most people will not be diligent in closing them. Make sure they don't block fire egress when you install them. Kirk -----Original Message----- From: George Wessel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 1:47 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Very mild on this list compared to others. When I replied to a post on >another list that nothing had ever been contributed by Arabs I asked if the >Alphabet and our system of numbers wouldn't be considered a contribution. >The reply I got was the people are a different people now. There is a >deliberate propaganda effort to demonize Arabic peoples and I loathe >propaganda because it always presages violence. There is a plan afoot and it >smells of blood. > (snip) When Saddam Husseim, sorry for the spelling, gased the Curds in Northern Iarqi was that propaganda. I would have to bet that the Curds didn't think so, it was plan genocide to them. When the Kuwaits excuted the Iarqi soldiers by beheading after the US forced Saddam to pull back his army, was that propaganda. I bet the Iarqi soldiers who got caught and was about to be murdered didn't think so. Or when Osama blew up the Marine barracks in Saudia Arabia was that propaganda. I could go on and on. Their actions are not exceptable by Western standards. If this is offensive to them then let them learn and change. The killing has to stop and they have to start with their own people in case Saddam is listening. If they don't like it then why don't they change. They are forceing this world into a war they cannot win. Yet a very large group, and growing, 65% of the Arabs poled by NBC, support the terrorist action of al queda against the US. When the World Trade Center was attacked on 9\11 the Arab students attending the Oklahoma State University cheered openly in front of the rest of the student body when the towers collapased. We were offended then, horribly insulated would be a better word, and they didn't give a damn about our feeling then. I hope being murdered by the thousands isn't to offensive to them but it is coming if they don't stop with the terrorism. It has all ready started in Afganhistan. Your right, their is a plan afoot and it does smell of blood, one on each side and blood from both. Arafat could denounce terrorism and stop a lot of it right now. But he won't, he don't want his Hamas and Juduid buddies to kill him for giving in to the west. I know their is a lot of good Arab people out their and they are being sucked into the beast just like the rest of us. We will all pay for the murderous actions of a few. The Arab's have the power to stop this now. To work out a peaceful deal with the US and Israel but they won't because the terrorist group that they finance won't let them. Anybody who tries dies. I would have to wonder if their feeling are hurt as they are being executed by their own people for wanting peace. I agree we cannot stereotype all arab into one group of murdering cowards. From another view, isn't all American's placed into one group of fat, lazy morons who drive big expensive cars that guzzle gasoline and pollute the air by some if not most of the rest of the world. Throw our money around and offend the world by our fragent acts. I don't drive a big, gas guzzling car. I do everything I can to cut my fuels costs every way I can and I most certainly don't throw my money around. So this puts me into the same group as the arabs that don't support the murdering of innocent people by cowards. Yet I take this insult with grace, then let the arabs take their insults with grace as well. I read once that 99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name. So it is with the Arab world, the only way it will stop is when they clean up the small percent that is giving the rest of them a bad name. SAudia Arabia and the US are having some hard feelings because they refuse to help seize the assets of terroriest who operate in and out of Saudia Arabia. Why, because the majority of the Saudia people support the terrorists, that's why. Not a small percent but enough to threaten King Faud's government if he helps the US to much. Sorry in advance for blowing off, it isn't all propganda, their is a real problem out their and it has to be dealt with or it will only get worst. And a lot of people are going to get far worst than hurt feeling. I wish I could say it wasn't true but I'm afraid this is just getting started. If the Arabs don't like it then they should offer a little more support to stop the terrorist. Nothing that the US has ever done will justifie the blowing up of the WTC and the murder of thousands of innocent people. The real propagand is where we are being blamed for forceing the terrorist to blow it up. George --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.350 / Virus Database: 196 - Release Date: 4/17/2002 ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/k6cvND/n97DAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. 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