Re: [Biofuel] Wind Turbines

2005-01-20 Thread Jerry T Van Horn
The number of makes of small turbines selling into the U.S. market, which have a good track record for reliability and low maintenance costs, is small (I would say 2). Doug, which 2? Jerry, Wi. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] Wind Turbines

2005-01-20 Thread dwoodard
Greg, I'm not exactly sure what you're driving at here. It is not the case that small wind turbines generally use lower windspeeds than large ones. In any case there is relatively little energy in the lower windspeeds. Remember that power in the wind varies as the cube of the windspeed, as well

[Biofuel] Tsunami Water Effort

2005-01-20 Thread Peggy
Water Consortium Unites For Tsunami Effort 1/11/2005 A group of international nongovernmental organizations and water industry professionals convened last week to share expertise and minimize duplication of effort in working with the tsunami crisis. The water industry will work together and

RE: [Biofuel] Wind Turbines

2005-01-20 Thread Ken Gotberg
Hi Peggy Ethanol is a high value fuel to make for the farm. Anaerobic digestion to methane would be a better choice with higher yield. From lignocellulose feed stock to ethanol the maximum yield is ~40% with actual yields being lower than this depending on the pretreatment (half of the mass

Re: [Biofuel] Wind Turbines

2005-01-20 Thread Hakan Falk
Doug, The Danes have done a good job with wind, but it was not as well planned as many now want to describe it. The Danish wind industry grow out of a crisis and the heavy design was natural. It was built as alternative job creation for a ship building industry in a downward spiral. Hakan

[Biofuel] Gasoline Additives Not Needed

2005-01-20 Thread MH
Gasoline Additives Not Needed With Ethanol Mix Jan 14, 2005 http://wcco.com/localnews/local_story_014064308.html St. Paul (AP) The Minnesota Department of Agriculture says motorists don't need to put gasoline additives into their gas tanks during cold weather if their gasoline has ten

[Biofuel] ethanol from wood

2005-01-20 Thread MH
SUNY researchers find way to make ethanol from wood By WILLIAM KATES Associated Press Writer Jan 13, 2005 SYRACUSE, N.Y. -- Using nothing more than water, State University of New York researchers have devised a method for removing energy-rich sugars from wood that can be used to produce

[Biofuel] biofuel-books

2005-01-20 Thread Stelios Terzakis
Good day everbody, I found these books with a simple search. Does anyone knows if books below are worth buying? Regards, Stelios 1)From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank: The Complete Guide to Using Vegetable Oil as an Alternative Fuel by Joshua Tickell, Kaia Roman, Kaia Tickell

patents, biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood

2005-01-20 Thread Dave Shaw
Hello, Thanks for posting this. What do you think about the patenting of this technology? Seems to me that by patenting cellulosic ethanol, we run into the same problems as with many other renewable energy technology. That is, it may be controlled and owned by private corporations. So the

Re: patents, biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood

2005-01-20 Thread Andrew Cunningham
I think that if the people who came up with technology deserve to make money off of it. Compare the future for bioethanol with this technology vs if it were never disclosed. Patents requires disclosing how it works and they do expire. If anything will give people time to find a similar way of

Re: patents, biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood

2005-01-20 Thread aleksander . kac
Dave, snip As it has been explained to me, it is a matter of getting the enzymes cheap enough to make it cost effective--one cannot make the enzymes themselves, they are a product of biotech. Am I mistaken? What are the enzymes and where do they come from? snip Enzymes are a product of nature,

RE: patents, biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood

2005-01-20 Thread Peggy
Thank you Aleks for your explanation, I might add a couple of additional comments. Many current practices are combining enzymes or adding different enzymes at different stages of a process. Several tried-and-true cultures have become industry standards and this applies to the small brewer/

RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood

2005-01-20 Thread Peggy
Please consider the following when evaluating the article about ethanol from wood: The notice about the research in New York did explain the process. Because a university in New York has a history of experimenting with irradiation to breakdown lignin and release glucose, this article might also

[Biofuel] First successful batch question

2005-01-20 Thread Todd Hershberger
washed it 3 times and the water was nearly clear with no milky white soap. I think I may have a clarity problem. I read that the biodiesel will be translucent when held to the light and that heating it to 90 F will clear up any haziness, but my fuel is still hazy even after heating. Does

Re: patents, biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood

2005-01-20 Thread Greg Harbican
Did I understand this ( and the process in general ) properly? You can eat your mushrooms and then turn what is left into alcohol? Greg H. - Original Message - From: Juan Boveda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 09:10 Subject: RE: patents,

[Biofuel] settling tanks continued-thanks Andrew

2005-01-20 Thread mark rose
Hey Andrew,thanks for the reply.(just got computer back from repairs).We have set up two tanks ( 200 gal and 100 gal fuel tanks).The first 200 gal tank will be our primary settling tank.We cut a cover in the top of the tank and installed a gasketed 1 inch gate valve in the center of tank

[Biofuel] Fw: One last way to express your rage against the Bush victory

2005-01-20 Thread Erika Davis
I know this is a little bit short notice, but please read this and if at all possible, take this actions today...--erika - Original Message - From: Wilson, Rachel To: Greg Duffy (Greg Duffy) ; Barb Duffy (comcast.net) Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 1:59 PM Subject: FW: One last way

Re: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood

2005-01-20 Thread bob allen
a little more efficiently, the soluble sugars which are already present, rather than hydrolyzing significant amounts of cellulose. Note that the residue can be burned or gasified for combined heat and power use the residue is the wood chips sans sugars. On the Net: Peggy wrote:

RE: patents, biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood

2005-01-20 Thread Juan Boveda
Hello Dave. An application of cellulases is in the denim blue (jeans) laundery shop or factory to make the stone washed effect on denim with dimished amout or without stones, you might find global cheap providers of cellulases for the textile sector. A problem arises when they might ask you

RE: patents, biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood

2005-01-20 Thread Peggy
Hello Greg, The smallest volume in a mushroom complex can be the fruiting head. Mycelia (projections similar to our ideas of roots) can extend for miles and it is the mycelia that can be one of nature's greatest assets un filtration and healthy biomass: forest maintenance, and good soil. And

Re: [Biofuel] First successful batch question

2005-01-20 Thread Ken Provost
on 1/20/05 6:30 AM, Todd Hershberger at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I may have a clarity problem. I read that the biodiesel will be translucent when held to the light and that heating it to 90 F will clear up any haziness, but my fuel is still hazy even after heating. My biodiesel

Re: [Biofuel] First successful batch question

2005-01-20 Thread Phillip Wolfe
Todd, I plan to start making my first too so thanks for your posting. I plan to get a hold of part of that 150 lbs of WVO at my local resturant and start brew'n...and lern'ing. I'm still looking at that small gas station down from my house. I walked into the local assistant City Manager of my

[Biofuel] ethanol from wood

2005-01-20 Thread MH
Whether wood provides ethanol or methanol the State University of New York College of Environmental Science and Forestry is looking into it -- [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/39606/ [Biofuel] ethanol from wood

Re: [Biofuel] biofuel-books

2005-01-20 Thread Keith Addison
Good day everbody, I found these books with a simple search. Does anyone knows if books below are worth buying? Regards, Stelios 1)From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank: The Complete Guide to Using Vegetable Oil as an Alternative Fuel by Joshua Tickell, Kaia Roman, Kaia Tickell

[Biofuel] RE: appleseed processor and PVC

2005-01-20 Thread Dana Knight
Ken, et al; So from all the submission on the question of using PVC pipe rather than iron in the appleseed processor it seems that the failures are due more to UV than the chemicals in the process. If that is true, then PVC should work fine. Is that the case in your professional opinion? I

[Biofuel] RE: patents, biotech Was cellulosic ethanol

2005-01-20 Thread Phillip Wolfe
As it relates to biotech: Orion Genomics Donates Sorghum Sequence to Public Domain; Sequence Expected to Help Researchers Develop New BioFuels http://www.oriongenomics.com/ St. Louis, MO--Orion Genomics, announced that it is donating to public researchers all of its proprietary gene-enriched

Re: [Biofuel] Wind Turbines

2005-01-20 Thread dwoodard
I would say Bergey http://www.bergey.com and African Windpower. Bear in mind that I have no personal experience, and I am speaking merely from reading comments on the internet. There may be one or two other small-volume NA makes, and some rather expensive Europeans on whose records I haven't

[Biofuel] 30% Na-methylate in methanol

2005-01-20 Thread Gregory Petit
Hello everybody, I was wondering if somebody already did some tests with Na methylate? In the document on http://www.asa-europe.org/pdf/ta_biodiesel.pdf (bottom of page 5) you can find the advantages of using it. Today I got an email from a chemical company and, here in Belgium, I can get a

Re: patents, biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood

2005-01-20 Thread Greg Harbican
I guess what I am asking ( but doing poorly at ) is, would this be a viable small industry? Cultivate edible mushrooms, then process what is left of the woody material, into alcohol? Just one or the other, might be feasible and even economically sound, but, to be able to recover food and fuel

RE: patents, biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood

2005-01-20 Thread Juan Boveda
Hello Greg H. Some wood rooting fungus are eaten since early times, like the shiitake mushroom Pleurotus with a good maket in Asia, but not all mushrooms are safe or non toxic to eat them. A simple proccess description to get extracelular enzymes like cellulases is to grow an previously

RE: [Biofuel] RE: appleseed processor and PVC

2005-01-20 Thread Tim Ferguson
Dana, PVC does have adverse effects when exposed to some chemicals. I know from working with Poly (unsaturated-monomers) that the PVC will in very short order begin disolving and gumming-up (so to speak) making the valves difficult to turn until they finally break. This is evident not only in

[Biofuel] Keith? Query about WVO refining and Glycerin Purifying

2005-01-20 Thread Phillip Wolfe
Kieth/Luc/Todd/Kron/Martin/Peggy/Et.al./Professor Allen and Biofuel Readers: When I start my homebrew biodiesel refining with that 150 lbs of WVO I've been discussing, I would to circulate the byproduct crude glycerin into distillation and purify it to about 90% purity or better. The reason is