Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-07 Thread Michael Redler
Mike, I agree and certainly wouldn't rule anything out, especially with places like Berkley Labs developing PV with 50+ percent efficiencies.However, emerging energy storage technologies (like the supercap technology mentioned by Kirk), suggest a quick "fill up" and puts into question the need for

Re: [Biofuel] Why genetic engineering is dangerous

2006-08-07 Thread Guag Meister
Hi Keith ; -cut- These critical remarks should be read in light of growing evidence of extremely serious impacts on health, environment and the livelihoods of Third World farmers. A European regulatory requirement for genetic safety testing, which is not required in Canada or

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-07 Thread Mike Weaver
I don't know as I'd throw out either one. Even one high eff. PV on a sunny day would help. Man, I almost called you in Conn./NY. You should have seen me in the parking lot at Shaws making fuel! -Weaver Michael Redler wrote: Mike, I agree and certainly wouldn't rule anything out,

Re: [Biofuel] worth reading -an insight into politics and corporations - 4% of population is psychopathic

2006-08-07 Thread Mike Weaver
Or, it takes a certain degree of madness to be sane in this world. You have to be a touch crazy to be able to be happy and go on with your life given what's going on. -Weaver Kirk McLoren wrote: Of course there is a distribution but there is demarcation. A criteria is set and 4% +- some

Re: [Biofuel] Permits and lots of other problems

2006-08-07 Thread Mike Weaver
also look up reportable quantities in municode Gary Plencner wrote: Theo, I am also in the region you mentioned, here is a link that should help http://www.nonprofitfuel.ca/http://www.biodiesel.org/ the handling and use sections on the .org site should give you lots of help. There is

Re: [Biofuel] Permits and lots of other problems

2006-08-07 Thread Mike Weaver
Dunno whether you are commercial or not, but I can tell you that if you are, 1000 gallons a day won't sustain you. Your fuel must meet ASTM standards or you can't sell it. The ASTM test is very expensive. Piedmont biofuels provides fuel to its members, and buys what it sells commercially. I

Re: [Biofuel] Why genetic engineering is dangerous

2006-08-07 Thread lres1
Why not look at removing all left hands and genetically installing all right arms as most use right arms and thus they are stronger and more use in the work force. Why not remove and replace the nose so it does not pick up bad smells, surely the technology is there to GE the body of each

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-07 Thread lres1
Can anyone remember in the mid tolate sixties a conversion to flywheel energy in motor bikes and cars? The test bike was a tad hard to corner due to the Gyroscopic effects and did not "lay over" as a standard bike in cornering. Needed a hand brake to park as it would not lean onto a stand,

Re: [Biofuel] FFA Recovery

2006-08-07 Thread Thomas Kelly
Jan, Is one of the layers the mineral precipitate? Tom - Original Message - From: Jan Lieuwe Bolding To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 5:50 PM Subject: [Biofuel] FFA Recovery I have tried to seperate the FFA and Glycerine

Re: [Biofuel] Why genetic engineering is dangerous

2006-08-07 Thread Doug Foskey
On Monday 07 August 2006 8:39, Guag Meister wrote: I tend to agree with you. Imagine a simple molecule such as caused Thalidomide. Even worse imagine a molecule that affected a gene contained in a single racial type. (Maybe we should start looking for a distinct gene in crooked pollies! ..known

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-07 Thread Tom Irwin
Hello Doug and all, I remember looking into that technology years ago. The concept itself has a lot of merit but itwas a safety and materials nightmare. Imagine a very heavy flywheel spinning at very high RPM's. The energy storage capacity is great but what happens if something breaks. You

[Biofuel] BD at the pump

2006-08-07 Thread Thomas Kelly
A little help would be appreciated. I'm in the US and going from NY to Hendersonville, North Carolina. I'm leaving tomorrow (Tues 8/8). I'm trying to locate service stations that sell BD at the pump. I will be travelling West on Rt 78 past Allentown, PA. Rt 81 S past Harrisburh and

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-07 Thread Zeke Yewdall
The best PV cells you can buy commercially (at a reasonable price) are about 20% efficient... The 42% efficient ones are only that efficient under concentration, and I think they currently cost about 100 times as much as the commercial ones. It'll be a few years (Probably still sooner than we

Re: [Biofuel] {Disarmed} Re: Using biodiesel in newer truck-cars

2006-08-07 Thread Zeke Yewdall
A fuel dealer sound pretty unbiased. not. I had a diesel mechanic tell me that using biodiesel would ruin my injectors due to lack of lubricity... Uhhh?What US manufactures are you asking about specificially? I think Cummins is the only one left? Or is International still a US company?

Re: [Biofuel] GeoExchange, on the cheap

2006-08-07 Thread Michael Redler
Nice.I'd be curious to see any documented changes in efficiency.- RedlerThomas Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike,When I installed an air conditioner a few weeks ago, I noticed that it didn't drip, and from outside I could hear a bubbling-popping sound. My father-in-law told me that a

[Biofuel] Fwd: UK Observer - Israeli pilots 'deliberately miss' targets

2006-08-07 Thread Michael Redler
I rec'd this on Sunday and thought some of you might be interested in it. I think it ties into an earlier thread "Israel Guilty of War Crimes" and how the Israeli government has their own version of "The Decider".- RedlerCraig Berman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject:

Re: [Biofuel] Permits and lots of other problems

2006-08-07 Thread Zeke Yewdall
You might check with a race track operator on the methanol storage. Since they are the sources where many people buy 55 gallon drums of methanol for making biodiesel, they obviously have to store 1,000's of gallons of methanol, or at least 100's. Is the location zoned for industrial/manufacturing

Re: [Biofuel] Why genetic engineering is dangerous

2006-08-07 Thread bob allen
Ah, the absolute Luddite. First we figure out how to use a rock, then somebody wants to kill us by clubbing us with a rock. We were better off running down the gazelles and ripping their throats out with our teeth. ;- Guag Meister wrote: Hi Keith ; -cut- These critical

Re: [Biofuel] worth reading -an insight into politics and corporations - 4% of population is psychopathic

2006-08-07 Thread Michael Redler
Crrraaazy!? What's that?Remember the movie One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest? It was actually dangerous to have your emotions (relatively) in balance.- RedlerMike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or, it takes a certain degree of madness to be sane in this world. You have to be a touch

Re: [Biofuel] worth reading -an insight into politics and corporations - 4% of population is psychopathic

2006-08-07 Thread Keith Addison
Crrraaazy!? What's that? Remember the movie One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest? It was actually dangerous to have your emotions (relatively) in balance. - Redler Emotional imbalance is not at all the same as being a psycho/sociopath. Psychopaths can't be described as emotionally imbalanced.

Re: [Biofuel] Stuck in Connecticut with no Diesel - impromptu blending

2006-08-07 Thread Zeke Yewdall
sorry, pushed send too soon. The problem that I've heard of from using the RUG/veggie oil mix is that over time is can lead to wax buildup in the tank, because the gasoline doesn't completely dissolve all components of the oil, but can leave the heaviest portions of it behind. This can also occur

Re: [Biofuel] Stuck in Connecticut with no Diesel - impromptu blending

2006-08-07 Thread Zeke Yewdall
That's basically what DSE is -- well, aside from being a pyramid scam too. I knew someone who ran his VW jetta (old one) for a year or more on a mixture of waste veggie oil and 15% unleaded gas, till he got a proper SVO setup. On 8/5/06, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: YupMarty Phee

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-07 Thread Kirk McLoren
The state of the art in flywheel storage is I think U of Texas. They have a railgun project there and have developed a "compulsator"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_Gun The United States military is funding railgun experiments. At the University of Texas at Austin Institute for Advanced

[Biofuel] interesting page

2006-08-07 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://theend.blog.hr/ They start out with an article re building your own H bomb but the video at (control F this and look for the youtube screen) Evo dajem vam video its just above the blackhawk comments. Mercedes Sedan -OMGKirkWashington DC is a little too small to be a state,but too

Re: [Biofuel] GeoExchange, on the cheap

2006-08-07 Thread Thomas Kelly
Mike, At the time I thought he was just kidding. Icouldn't find the owner's manual . but it's real hot in my attic right now, so I didn't look for long. I got a great deal on the AC. Someone had returned it to the store no box. They probably didn't like the sound it made

Re: [Biofuel] GeoExchange, on the cheap

2006-08-07 Thread Zeke Yewdall
The SEER should show whether it's more efficient or not. In general, current air conditioners are almost twice as efficient as ones from 10 or 15 years ago, so perhaps that's one thing they did to achieve that. On 8/7/06, Thomas Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike, At the time I thought he

Re: [Biofuel] Why genetic engineering is dangerous

2006-08-07 Thread Zeke Yewdall
So don't worry so much about the accidental sideeffects (which undoubtedly can be significant).Worry much more about the deliberate side effects frommilitaty usage where the goal is to kill people.Ifthe accidental side effects of GM are disastrous, howmuch more so will the results of deliberate

Re: [Biofuel] worth reading -an insight into politics and corporations - 4% of population is psychopathic

2006-08-07 Thread Kirk McLoren
Thats what the author said - that as a result American society has to be somewhat psychotic. Thus we will travel halfway round the world to kill someone but not across the street to vote.KirkMike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or, it takes a certain degree of madness to be sane in this

[Biofuel] was...worth reading -an insight into politics and corporations - 4% of population is psychopathic

2006-08-07 Thread AltEnergyNetwork
I've met and had work relations with 4 certifiable phycopaths in the corporate world as well, even scarier in non profit co's. A couple of classic signs; feigned empathy, skillfully manipulative using the old divide, conquer and allienating co workers, starting unfounded gossip, public

[Biofuel] power in Queens was out for almost 2 weeks last month - not newsworthy I guess lol

2006-08-07 Thread Kirk McLoren
The World's Largest Machine is Breaking Downby Tom Dyson Riker’s Island – home to 15,000 inmates - is running off back-up generators… Hundreds of elderly receive meals-on-wheels. Workers distribute ice at the corner of Ditmars Boulevard and Steinway Street. And pinned to the steel shutter on

Re: [Biofuel] was...worth reading -an insight into politics and corporations - 4% of population is psychopathic

2006-08-07 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Tallex knows my old boss?On 8/7/06, AltEnergyNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I've met and had work relations with 4 certifiablephycopaths in the corporate world as well, even scarier in non profit co's.A couple of classic signs;feigned empathy,skillfully manipulative using the old divide,

Re: [Biofuel] GeoExchange, on the cheap

2006-08-07 Thread Paul S Cantrell
Enthalpy, enthalpy, ENTHALPY!Water is often used to cool Condensers in industrial and commercial chillers. At the college I work for, we have several water-cooled and several air-cooled chillers. Water-cooled are more efficient at larger tonnages (100 tons) than air-cooled. (see

Re: [Biofuel] GeoExchange, on the cheap

2006-08-07 Thread Kirk McLoren
The big thing they did was add some coil. They used to act like it was made of gold. But then - who pays the electric bill? Most people just look at the cost of acquisition. Years ago I found the only people who bought efficiency were business people. Few exceptions. Now consumers look at it.

Re: [Biofuel] {Disarmed} Re: Using biodiesel in newer truck-cars

2006-08-07 Thread Will Kelleher
Zeke,By US manufacturers I was referring to auto manufacturers, not just diesel engines. I have an old Ford with an International engine. I'm sure the fuel system would dissolve after a few months of biodiesel. WillOn 8/7/06, Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A fuel dealer sound pretty

Re: [Biofuel] {Disarmed} Re: Using biodiesel in newer truck-cars

2006-08-07 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Don't know about international, but I have a friend running biodiesel in a 1985 GM 6.5 liter diesel, haven't heard of any problems yet. He did have international before that, but it was too hard to work on. glow plugs hidden inside the valve covers or something... My old VW fuel system is rapidly

Re: [Biofuel] was...worth reading -an insight into politics and corporations - 4% of population is psychopathic

2006-08-07 Thread Kirk McLoren
Amen brother. And they tend to gravitate to the top because they are free to do some cold blooded stuff. They need to be exposed, recognized and excluded. That means the sheeple have to open their eyes.KirkAltEnergyNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've met and had work relations with 4

Re: [Biofuel] was.. was...worth reading -an insight into politics and corporations - 4% of population is psychopathic

2006-08-07 Thread AltEnergyNetwork
Hey..funny..;-) Seriously, even if the percentage is 2 percent or even one percent it stands to reason that there are phycopaths that work in government and pretty well every other profession. You can't lock them up unless they commit crimes (or get caught), and most are very skillfull at

Re: [Biofuel] Stuck in Connecticut with no Diesel - impromptu blending

2006-08-07 Thread Mike Weaver
as it was close to 100 f that day I doubt I even needed much RUG! Zeke Yewdall wrote: sorry, pushed send too soon. The problem that I've heard of from using the RUG/veggie oil mix is that over time is can lead to wax buildup in the tank, because the gasoline doesn't completely dissolve

[Biofuel] was...was...worth reading -an insight into politics and corporations - 4% of population is psychopathic

2006-08-07 Thread AltEnergyNetwork
There was a Canadian phycologist or prison phychiatrist, I don't remember his name but he developed a standard test for evaluating prisoners that could be deemed phycopaths. It is now used as a standard test in many Canadian and most U. S. prisons to determine risk assessment of prisoners.

[Biofuel] Astroturf

2006-08-07 Thread Kirk McLoren
Not new though see Kuwait comment.The gvt isnt concerned about what you think. They have created what you think.Kirk++| PR Firm Behind Al Gore YouTube Spoof? || from the new-intarweb-trolls dept. || posted by ScuttleMonkey on

Re: [Biofuel] worth reading -an insight into politics and corporations - 4% of population is psychopathic

2006-08-07 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Kirk Thats what the author said - that as a result American society has to be somewhat psychotic. There's never been a phenomenon such as American society before, no society has ever been subjected to such intense manipulation as Americans have been especially over the last 30 years: More

[Biofuel] Production Trailer

2006-08-07 Thread Will Kelleher
Hello everyone,I'm starting college this August at the University of Illinois. I've been playing around with biodiesel for the past year and now I'm trying to set up a 200 gallon batch reactor. The only problem is, I have nowhere to do it. I've been collecting parts for a couple of months. I

Re: [Biofuel] worth reading -an insight into politics and corporations - 4% of population is psychopathic

2006-08-07 Thread Michael Redler
"Psychopaths can't be described as emotionally imbalanced."Sure. That makes sense. I think of a psychopath assomeone having a personality disorder which doesn't necessarily need to show any particular kind of emotion at all. Emotions aren't a prerequisite for amoral behavior (for example). Am

[Biofuel] Wolf attack near Grangeville

2006-08-07 Thread Kirk McLoren
If you think beef is expensive now wait till more of them start hunting cows instead of deer and elk. A wolf in Stanfield killed 8 steers in one night. So much for "they only kill for food". They started on sheep last year. Some ranchers are going out of business soon. One fellow lost over 60 ewes

Re: [Biofuel] {Disarmed} Re: Using biodiesel in newer truck-cars

2006-08-07 Thread Will Kelleher
When I was bubble washing a test batch I used a rubber band to tie something heavy to the end of the air house. When I took the hose out a few days later, the rubber band had basically melted. If I have problems with my Ford's fuel system, how difficult would it be to replace myself. I'm fairly

Re: [Biofuel] GeoExchange, on the cheap

2006-08-07 Thread Jason Katie
collect the condenser water in a bucket or start a bucket from the water mains , and put a small pump (wiper pump or other handy pumping device) and spill the collected water back over the exchanger coil, doesnt matter how much boils off or how hot it gets in the bucket, it will just evaporate

Re: [Biofuel] Astroturf

2006-08-07 Thread Logan vilas
I dont think Astroturf will work for biofuell production Logan Vilas From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirk McLoren Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 12:43 PM To: biofuel Subject: [Biofuel] Astroturf Not new though see Kuwait comment.The gvt isnt

Re: [Biofuel] Wolf attack near Grangeville

2006-08-07 Thread DHAJOGLO
Kirk, I can't tell from your comment on this article whether you feel issues with wolves are dealt with improperly or if you feel the meat industry is going to take a real beating from them. We have wolves here in Minnesota and the farmers truly hate them. However, seeing as how the

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: HSI e-Alert - On January 1st, the Area 181 oil boom begins...

2006-08-07 Thread bob allen
To put the AREA 181 in perspective, the estimated 1.3 billion barrels of oil represent about two months supply in the US, based on current consumption of about 20 million barrels of oil per day. Reality doesn't square with the statement below that Kirk McLoren wrote: snip There’s

Re: [Biofuel] Wolf attack near Grangeville

2006-08-07 Thread Kirk McLoren
I lived in Montana for many years and some people still remember the effort and expense we went to to remove them. Just remember those midwest feedlots often fatten calves from Montana Dakota Idaho Wyoming. They would be hard pressed to find stock without those producers. That is what will happen

Re: [Biofuel] Why genetic engineering is dangerous - technology.

2006-08-07 Thread bob allen
Howdy Peter, I am sorry if I came off as flippant. I just was pointing out the obvious- technology is a double-edged sword. It is not technology itself that gets us in trouble, but rather the application. Guag Meister wrote: Hi Bob ; We were better off running down the gazelles and

Re: [Biofuel] Why genetic engineering is dangerous - technology.

2006-08-07 Thread Guag Meister
Hi Bob ; We were better off running down the gazelles and ripping their throats out with our teeth. ;- Ha, don't laugh. Where I have my farm in Cambodia, the local poeple have no running water, no electricity, almost no roads. They manage to live without most of the modern conveniences

[Biofuel] the tax man cometh

2006-08-07 Thread bob allen
I recently received a letter from the Arkansas Department of finance. I am to herewith submit 22.5 cents per gallon of biodiesel produced. I guess that this happened because of an article that appeared in a statewide newspaper, concerning my manufacture of biodiesel as a student project.

Re: [Biofuel] Wolf attack near Grangeville

2006-08-07 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Somehow, I doubt the wolves posess much danger to the elk and deer populations long term, as they evolved together. They weren't a problem for thousands and thousands of years. Putting domestic animals that were relatively easy to kill, and that we owned in place of the native game was when the

Re: [Biofuel] Astroturf

2006-08-07 Thread Zeke Yewdall
well, I bet you could melt it down into fuel, but it's probably petroleum based to begin with, so it wouldn;t really be a biofuelOn 8/7/06, Logan vilas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think Astroturf will work for biofuell production Logan Vilas From: [EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] Why genetic engineering is dangerous - technology.

2006-08-07 Thread Guag Meister
Hi Bob ; No problem at all. It is not technology itself that gets us in trouble, but rather the application. Yes this is true. You know when I am editing a Word document I am amazed at how long it takes to create the document from scratch, but I can delete it almost instantly. The point

Re: [Biofuel] the tax man cometh

2006-08-07 Thread Ken Provost
On Aug 7, 2006, at 2:13 PM, bob allen wrote: I recently received a letter from the Arkansas Department of finance. I am to herewith submit 22.5 cents per gallon of biodiesel produced. I guess that this happened because of an article that appeared in a statewide newspaper, concerning

Re: [Biofuel] Wolf attack near Grangeville

2006-08-07 Thread JJJN
We had a single (or pair of them, the feds could not be sure) Wolf Kill well over 100 Sheep. Over 50 in one night. When the Federal Fish and Wildlife finally authorized Federal trappers to Kill one Wolf They hunted it for 6 months in the badlands using an airplane and 4X4 with no success.

Re: [Biofuel] Wolf attack near Grangeville

2006-08-07 Thread Mike Weaver
Just out of curiosity, was this on public or private land? JJJN wrote: We had a single (or pair of them, the feds could not be sure) Wolf Kill well over 100 Sheep. Over 50 in one night. When the Federal Fish and Wildlife finally authorized Federal trappers to Kill one Wolf They hunted it for

Re: [Biofuel] Why genetic engineering is dangerous

2006-08-07 Thread Juan Carlos Aguilar
We must stop de use of GM products now not tomorrow, and promove the ecological agriculture, here in south america (Argentina) the people have a lot of problems with GM soja, the fields of the owner´s don´t produce any more when GM soja is used. its a great problem. peace Juan Carlos from lima

Re: [Biofuel] GeoExchange, on the cheap

2006-08-07 Thread Mike Redler
Agreed. Good idea. - Redler Jason Katie wrote: collect the condenser water in a bucket or start a bucket from the water mains , and put a small pump (wiper pump or other handy pumping device) and spill the collected water back over the exchanger coil, doesnt matter how much boils off or

Re: [Biofuel] Production Trailer

2006-08-07 Thread Thor Burfine
Watch your DOT regs.Any fuel container that has a total weight of 600 pounds or more including the storage vessel is required to have plackards and you have to have a hazmat on your license to move it unless it is hooked into your primary fuel system.In other words, Diesel at 7.0 to 7.3

Re: [Biofuel] Wolf attack near Grangeville

2006-08-07 Thread Mike Weaver
Yeah, whatever. Can you make biodiesel out of them? Zeke Yewdall wrote: Somehow, I doubt the wolves posess much danger to the elk and deer populations long term, as they evolved together. They weren't a problem for thousands and thousands of years. Putting domestic animals that were

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: HSI e-Alert - On January 1st, the Area 181 oil boom begins...

2006-08-07 Thread Mike Redler
(IMO) it looks like a numbers game. They mention the number of barrels and how long it would power every bus, van, car and SUV but neglected to mention everything that consumes that 20 million barrels. Is this possible or are they just lying? - Redler bob allen wrote: To put the AREA 181

Re: [Biofuel] Wolf attack near Grangeville

2006-08-07 Thread JJJN
There were several kill sites in this the two Counties invloved. at the time I understand the killing was on Private land. but that is not to say that there is not some public land involved. Jim Mike Weaver wrote: Just out of curiosity, was this on public or private land? JJJN wrote: We

Re: [Biofuel] Wolf attack near Grangeville

2006-08-07 Thread JJJN
Zeke Yewdall wrote: Somehow, I doubt the wolves posess much danger to the elk and deer populations long term, Actually they help restore balance to the areas, to a more natural existence when they evolved together this is true, But when you take wolves away for a hundred years then spring

Re: [Biofuel] Wolf attack near Grangeville

2006-08-07 Thread Kirk McLoren
pyrolytic distillation. Drive the steam off and cap it.KirkMike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, whatever. Can you make biodiesel out of them?Zeke Yewdall wrote: Somehow, I doubt the wolves posess much danger to the elk and deer populations long term, as they evolved together. They

Re: [Biofuel] Wolf attack near Grangeville

2006-08-07 Thread Zeke Yewdall
well there was the thread a while ago about making biodiesel from cats, and I recall we were going to turn Keith into biodiesel, so I imagine you could use wolves too.On 8/7/06, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, whatever.Can you make biodiesel out of them?Zeke Yewdall wrote:

Re: [Biofuel] Wolf attack near Grangeville

2006-08-07 Thread Paul S Cantrell
Oh wait, now I'm confused...I thought you were making BD from the sheep, but now it is the wolves??? Little Red Riding Hood couldn't keep up.On 8/7/06, Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:well there was the thread a while ago about making biodiesel from cats, and I recall we were going to

Re: [Biofuel] Wolf attack near Grangeville

2006-08-07 Thread Mike Weaver
Keith is too skinny Paul S Cantrell wrote: Oh wait, now I'm confused...I thought you were making BD from the sheep, but now it is the wolves??? Little Red Riding Hood couldn't keep up. On 8/7/06, *Zeke Yewdall * [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well there

[Biofuel] {Disarmed} Fw: Life in Hell: A Baghdad Diary

2006-08-07 Thread D. Mindock
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