I just purchased some dipstick engine heaters. But I live in europe and
they came from america, so they are 120V.
Now, if I plug them in to the 220V plugs, I know that they will give
twice the heat. What I want to know is that does the heat dissipate off
these things fast enough for it not to
Some time ago ther was a thread about
producing bd in an alternative way, using electricity. Very high voltages were
necessary.
I
recently saw one of those electric zapper thingies. The ones used for self
protetction. Handheld device that gives 200.000 volts.
And it operates on 2 x 9V
I let some of my BD settle for about 2 months (indoors, 22 degrees
celcius) and by the time I got to the washing stage I noticed that it
was rather clear with some white sediment at the bottom. And when I
washed It I did not observe much soap formation. And the separation was
almost immediate like
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How would you react the solution with the gas?
Teoman Naskali wrote:
Just a thoght bu would
substitution
How would you react the solution with the gas?
Teoman Naskali wrote:
Just a thoght bu would it be possible to use methane or propane or
buthane instead of methanol? One would have to have some methanol for
the methroxide but still... that would save a lot of money.
Has anynone experimented
you mentioned do not have an alcohol group you could
not
use them doing the transesterification reaction.
if you could catalytically oxidize to form a alcohol ... (oxidize alkane
think explosion or fire) them maybe.
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The weather is starting to get colder here, and my test batch just
solidified.
Its only 5 degrees celcius outside,
Is this normal? I was using cooking oil from a university cantine, that
is normally solid at these temperatures.
Should I start tryin the 2 stage methods.
Teoman
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Just a thoght bu would it be possible to use methane or propane or
buthane instead of methanol? One would have to have some methanol for
the methroxide but still... that would save a lot of money.
Has anynone experimented? Any good reason why I shouldn't?
One of my friends heats his 3 story building with fossil diesel.
I have just agreed to sell him BD, (about one and a half tons)
Does such a system need conversion to BD? What could go wrong if he
stars usin bd instead of dinodiesel.
Would corrosion be a problem? Ill check his hoses.
Better
My engine is a 2.5 liter turbo charged Hyundai starex 98 engine ( I have
heard that the Mitsubishi 2.5 l engine is the same but without a turbo)
. It is rated at 85 hp.
The van itself weighs 2 tons, and can take up to 12 people. It usually
spits out more smoke when loaded.
Anyway, the smoke
worry about keeping up with the rest of
traffic, and that will cut the black smoke as well.
Greg H.
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Subject: [Biofuel] Putting O2 to the air input
Yet another of my
Yet another of my random and crazy questions,
It bothers me that my diesel puts out black smoke when it starts or is
going up a steep hill.
I recently discovered an oxygen tank in our basement probably for my
greatgrandfather.
The black smoke means that there is an incomplete reaction
My thinks the lye in the water as well as the methanol would not
fair well on the paint :) Although if you have any defoliating of
such things as Poison Ivy it works greeat for that.
L.
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I live in a large building
I live in a large building with a car park, the cars there are washed
almost every day, and the person washing then usually has a bucket full
of water detergent.
Could I use the wash water for washing cars? Or would there be any nasty
residue or other chemical that could stein or harm the car?
Did you by any chance get a vaccum in the washer? In one of my batches
where I probably had an incomplete reaction I got a vaccum while I tried
to wash it.
Teoman
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The reason im after chemical drying is because my friend said that it
would be a cheap way of drying methanol, the methanol I am buying at the
moment is 1$ per liter, and nobody knows the purity. Methanol that is
99+pure is about 6$ per liter making it too expensive.
What was the price of
A good chemist friend told me that calcium oxide (Cao) could be used to
dry WVO and methanol.
I searched the archives for this but couldn't find a satisfactory
answer.
Can anyone help?
I was thinking on filling a water filter with the stuff and adding it in
line with the pump.
Thanks,
That is a good idea but when using wvo, you might find that it
solidifies in the pump.
A better idea would be to make the level of the pump adjustable. Lift it
to a higher level once it starts going (don't get electrocuted) You
could always do it after but then one would probably end up
When I wash my test batch, it creates a vaccum in the container it is
washed in. Obviously some kind of chemical reaction takes place. What
could it be? And what does it absorb from the air??? I don't think it is
the Co2 or the O2, could it be the N2??
Please enlighten me, or have I bungled it
I need to measure a barrel that I have so I can mark the 110 L and 220L
levels. What do you advise? The precision lab equipment that is graded
up to 800ml.
I suppose 100 cups wont do the trick,
Probably filling a 5L water bottle precisely then using that 20 times
might be a good idea??
I have found some plastic barrels, unfortunately I cant cut or melt them
to make them bottom drainable.
What can I use to form a kind of cone inside the barrel? I think epoxy
would work but that might be a little expensive. Would gips work? Or
hardening clay???
Thanks Teoman
bottle) diminished.
Is there anythin wrong here?
I am a bit confused about the shake test, do you apply it to unwashed or
washed biodiesel.
Thank you,
Teoman Naskali
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I have just found 2 sources for my wvo, university cantines, they produce
quite a lot of wvo.
When I collect the wvo can I put it all in one tank (after it has been
filtered ofcourse)and then titrate it? (since I get like 10 kg at a time).
The first sample that I have received (3 liters) has
I have just bought some phosphoric acid which is rated at 87%, and the
foolproof method says that it should be 10%, what should I do? Use less or
dilute it (with what)
8. Mix gently at LOW rpm (don't splash!) while keeping the temperature at 35
deg C. The rotation of your stirrer should not
Just another ramdom thought,
Couldn't you freeze the water out of the oil? Or rather freeze the oil out
of the water?? In places like finland all you have to do is leave it out
overnight and then pour out the oil, or water, whichever one is frozen.
Or maby an ammonium system like previously
Is ther a more effective way of searching the archives? It seems like when I
search it searches only the mails displayed on the page, so for older
messages I have to keep pressing the next page button.
Just my ignorance :-(
Thanks
Teoman
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Sorry, just trying to avoid purchansing titration equipment. And get a
good unerstanding of the processes before I start anything.
I just got access to a highschool lab, if I bring my own chemicals and
wash after I have used the equipment.
I also had bought some isopropanol (%99 pure) with
Just wondering will it help the dehumidifying or methanol recovery
processes at all if the input of the aquarium pump was set up in a
manner as to suck air through a cooled copper coil from the top of the
processor and then pump it to the bottom of the processor?
Theoretically methanol can get
I just changed the oil to my Hyundai Starex 2.5L van
and on the oil it said that 75 % engine wear happens
while the engine is warming.
Would it do any good if the water in the engine was
heated with a kettle resistance or some other device?
Or is the wear caused more by the the fact that the
I cant remember now but i think read that uv light
helps the biodiesel production process, so would it do
any good if the methanol wvo mix was passed between 2
piesecss of glass (2 old windows with a twisting path
to lengthen the journey).
Just a thought.
Oh and another thought while i am at
I added the methoxide to a Liter of oil heated to
55 C, mixed and maintained the temp for 30 minutes;
let sit for 15 hrs.
Result: Thin 2-3mm. layer of yellow on top of a
murky red-brown liquid containing yellow and white
gobs.
Could the white globs mean that you had an excess of
In my first batch there is a very thin reddish layer
on top, if there is about 12 cm in the jar 2mm of it
is the layer on top and 1 - 2 cm of it is the
glycerine at the bottom.
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Can PVC plastic be used for processor material?
Wouldnt PVC pipes make the perfect processors? I think
that they had about 40 cm diameter pipes, one meter of
this would hold about 120 litres. And for washing one
could use many very thin and tall pipes.
The thing that interests me more is that
Why not use a washing machine as a processor? It has
everything you need. Resistance, mixer... you could
even select a program that does the whole process for
you. It even empties out the biodiesel to your
settling tank. And im shure once you are in to it you
can use the washingliquid inputs for
I just did a test wash on 25 ml of my first batch and
25 ml of water in a jar. I mixed the 2 together by
violently shaking the jar for about 30 seconds. The
whole thing turned in to a white foam. And it took
about 5 - 10 mins for the white stuff to separate from
my biodiesel. Is there anything
I have a thin red layer on top? What is that??
I went to mcdolanlds an burgerking, tey sell their
used oil to a soap company.
A) Should i give a higher price to mcdonalds and buy
some of their oil
or
B) Should i go to the soap company and try to figure
something out with them. Maby they
Its just a silly thought but, would it be possible to
use electrolyse to get rid of the water in the oil?
And more unlikely, could I use electrolyse to get rid
of the water in my methanol?? Or would i be
electrolysing the oil and alcohol? If so what comes
out of the electrolyse?
Electrolyse
I just received the methanol that i had ordered.
the ayre in 10 liter containers and the label says
Metanol
CH3OH
1l = 0,80kg
MW = 32,04
what does the las thing indicate? And do I have any
way of figuring out if this stuff is good. Of course i
will do a test batch in a couple of hours.
Some
My first batch looks like it is fairly successfull, I
found an old scale purely mechanical. With which i
managed to measure the NaOH.
I mixed it with the methanol in a jar, it took about
25 mins to mix, and in the end result one could almost
see very very tiny particles floating.
I heated the
Is it posiible to use aquariums or glass tanks for the
process, acid eats the metal and alcohol can do damage
to the plastics but none of them can harm glass
bu ofcourse then the problem would be silicone used to
stick seal the glass.
I didnt like the idea of processor where you cant see
I am just wondering, if we had a lot of time would it
not be possible to determine te amount of lye in a mix
and try method?
If you have a good methanol recovery system you colud
just preapare say 5g/l methanol mix and then add wait,
then check add a little more then check...??
Just my 2cent
Hi, im a beginner in biodiesel and have some
questions.
I am at the stage where im checking feasability and
availability of materials.
The methanol i have found is very expensive about 4.68
euros + tax per liter (99.5) which makes biodiesel
more expensive than normal diesel.
There is a cheaper
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