I'm going to write up my promised response to Keith sometime tomorrow
when I get a chance.
Since there are several issues being, ahem, 'discussed', it's quite
likely to come in to the Biofuel list at the end of the day as several long
messages, with lots of quoting back and forth.
:
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:57:27 -0800 (PST)
From: girl Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Processor upload
To: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bravo, wonderful, release it. Yay, thank you! finally!
With a promise of more pics, no mention of veggieavenger, and no
reply to my question about
I'm reversing the order of messages here, so that it is obvious to everyone
what Im talking about in my reply. so the latest is at the bottom...
Mark
**
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, bioveging [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
All this came about by following your
Keith,
Actually, I can't say I've EVER spent any time reading online resources
about Netiquette, or have run into this 'dont' promote other forums' rule
anywhere.
Perhaps the [biofuel] list introductory file should include a link to your
online resources about Netiquette (since it's a large
Biodiesel Orientation, Portland Oregon
Presented by:
Loren Fennell Oregon Bio-Diesel Workshop
Tuesday Evening, Aug. 31st, 6:30-8:30 p.m.
2223 N. Randolph off Interstate Ave., Portland, OR
$5 - $15 donation
(based on ability to pay; no one turned away for lack of funds)
Learn about:
OREGON BIO-DIESEL WORKSHOP
Loren Fennell, Research Design, Facilitator, Workshop Co-founder
David McMahon, Cloudburst Recycling, Inc., Workshop Co-founder
Jim Mittelstedt, Diesel Mechanic, Consultant
Presents:
STRAIGHT VEGETABLE OIL (SVO) VEHICLE CONVERSION
BIO-DIESEL PRODUCTION WORKSHOP
At 06:10 AM 8/23/2004 +, you wrote:
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, josephputzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hello all,
I've just begun to build a processor out of two 55 gallon drums. I
am having a 1 bushing welded to the drum so that I can put a screw-
in heating element into the processor.
sorry, I realised I wrote gibberish and that it maybe didn't quite make sense:
exerpt:
the www.veggieavenger.com/media thread on the Appleseed (keith please
link this thread from the journeytoforever article it's derived from)
what I meant to say was:
Keith, please add to my Appleseed
Hi all,
there is someone posting on the tdiclub forum, who is looking for others to
purchase tote-quantities (275 gallon IBC containers) of B100.
I know that I have heard a few people grumbling in the past about the fact
that they didn't know any other biodieselers in Chicago but wanted to
Homebrew Biodiesel Comprehensive Workshop
Two evenings: September 1 and 2, 6-9 pm
Salt Lake City, Utah
for more information, to register, and for directions, please email
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cost: $20-$50 sliding scale of your choice. Can be paid at the door, or
to the instructor via PayPal
For a number of weeks, there's been a discussion at tdiclub about the
Biodiesel Solutions FuelMeister- the $3,000-$4,300 plastic processor
that's being foisted on newcomers with somewhat inaccurate (and
scaremongering) advertising.
A nice guy named Larry Larson in Illinois bought a FuelMeister
Biodiesel Appleseed Tour: Biodiesel Homebrewing and Equipment Building
Workshops:
I'm going on tour, teaching homebrew biodiesel classes in the next two
months, in the Midwest and East Coast US. Here's a quick writeup of the
confirmed or tentative dates.
For more info or to register, please
Please forward to any other relevant lists...
**
Biodiesel Homebrew Intensive Course
September 10-13, 2004
Pittsboro, North Carolina (near Chapel Hill)
$100
With Rachel Burton of Piedmont Biofuels and Maria 'Mark' Alovert of
www.LocalB100.com
For more information please email
I had a typo error on the Pittsboro NC class announcement. It is taking
place September 10-14th, not 13th. If you forward the original
announcement, please correct the date. Thank you!
mark
**
Biodiesel Homebrew Intensive Course
September 10-13, 2004
Pittsboro, North Carolina
Someone asked about svo versus biodiesel on another list so I took a crack
at answering...
***
At 07:24 AM 8/14/2004 -0600, you wrote:
I have run across a few people that have modified their vehicles to run on
straight vegetable oil, at about $800, as opposed to converting it
' processor plumbing kits in the next few weeks
(something I really encourage)- for a similar labor cost (ie parts plus
$200). Once you have a plumbing assembly, it's easy to attach to a tank. So
if you miss the Girl Mark Fundraising Fire Sale, someone else should be
able to provide you a similar
After much online speculation about Acusorb beads and the overblown
advertising they were hawked with, I finally met someone who bought the
package- and it didn't work at all. Acusorb was the company that claimed
that you only need to run oil through their magic beads and it'll turn into
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have recently increased methanol to 25 percent by volume
and have had an easier time with the wash, it cleared in three
washes. I used to use about 20 percent methanol. I hate to
waste the methanol but it seems to have improved fuel
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
Hello Friends, farmers, permies, and alternative energy colleagues!
As many of you may know, I have been working hard since 1993 heading up
the International Institute for Ecological Agriculture (IIEA), a
non-profit based in Aptos, California. Our
following message is from our local small-business biodiesel
distributor- who only sells B100, not diesel blends.
- Forwarded message follows -
Jennifer myself have been in conversation with the Berkeley fire dept.
for 7 months or more. Following local practices we
following message is from our local small-business biodiesel
distributor- who only sells B100, not diesel blends.
- Forwarded message follows -
Jennifer myself have been in conversation with the Berkeley fire dept.
for 7 months or more. Following local practices we
Comprehensive Homebrew Biodiesel Workshop with Maria 'Mark' Alovert
Sunday, August 15th, Mill Valley, California, 10 am -5 pm
sliding scale $20-$50, your choice.
Come learn a wide range of techniques to make homebrew biodiesel fuel, with
hands-on practice, and an opportunity to see a
I just had a talk with a public information officer from a fire department
in Washington who has been assigned to write a press release on biodiesel
homebrewers and on any safety issues that we present to fire fighting
personnel.
She researched the topic extensively on the internet and came
reply direct, he's probably not on this list.
Mailing-List: list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; contact
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
List-Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 09:37:04 -
Subject: [wastewatts] Planning a Trade show.
Reply-To:
OREGON BIODIESEL WORKSHOP, LLC, Portland, OR
Loren Fennell, Biodiesel Producer, Fabricator, Co-founder
David McMahon, Cloudburst Recycling, Inc., Workshop Co-founder
Jim Mittelstedt, Diesel Mechanic Consultant
Presents:
STRAIGHT VEGETABLE OIL (SVO) VEHICLE CONVERSION,
BIODIESEL PRODUCTION
I was surprised that there wasn't more discussion of the new NBB small
producer membership policy. Here's the two places where the commentary I
got is found:
http://www.forums.biodieselnow.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3030
also Lyle wrote up his journalistic version and it's inspired some
Hello,
I'm traveling across country this month, 'by accident'- I really didn't
intend to take this trip!, and I'll be going from DC to Maine and then back
to California, taking Interstate 80 back. My partner and I are driving a
couple of vans back here which he and another friend had
Just re-posting some info about the homebrew class four of us are doing
next weekend near DC, and also an invite to meet the next day:
There's still space in the class, so any of you who can make it 'at the
last minute' are welcome to come- just drop me an email so I can keep track
of how
The Berkeley Biodiesel Co-op is organizing an evening presentation in San
Francisco at the end of the month, entitled Greasing the Wheels: Firing Up
San Francisco's Biodiesel Movement'.
The event will be an evening of presentations about the Northern
California biodiesel movement, where we
Apologies for the big crosspost, and for the size of this email.
I'm teaching or co-teaching a few biodiesel classes coming up on the East
Coast, and have dates for a few of them set. I am working on a few other
class dates in the Midwest as well, which is why this got posted to some
Midwest
Subject: [Biodieselcouncil] Greasing the Wheels, SF,
June 30
Greasing the Wheels
Firing up San Francisco's Biodiesel Movement
Wednesday, June 30th
6:00 9:00 p.m. In San Francisco.
The Berkeley Biodiesel Collective, and the Ecology
Center, along with
several San Francisco
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 22:10:07 -0700
Subject: [local-b100-biz] Membership Coordinator Needed For New Biodiesel
Nonprofit
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Membership Coordinator Needed For New Biodiesel Nonprofit
The Biodiesel Council of California is in need of a membership
coordinator /
Hi, I know this got posted here last week already, but anyone in the Bay
Area should come check out this amazing presentation!
Mark
OAKLAND to ARGENTINA on VEGETABLE OIL:
5 months, 11,000 miles via a 1980 VW Dasher running on
veggie oil with a DIY 2-tank conversion
Tuesday, June 15th at
I posted this a while ago at veggieavenger but I don't think I announced it
here (I apologise for double posting if I did).
a link to the how-to-
http://www.veggieavenger.com/avengerboard/viewtopic.php?t=403
It's a photo how-to on mixing up methoxide using the passive carboy
methoxide
to collectively
write something that would at least give Fryer to the Fuel Tank a run
for its money.
'specially considering your background in journalism.
And it would be a great way to help support the work you guy are
doing at JTF.
What say we all? :o)
I said to girl mark before I went
Biodiesel Equipment Class
May 30, 12-6
At Tinkers Workshop Shorebird facility, 80 Bolivar Dr, Berkeley
(please note: this is not the Tinkers' Workshop better-known main site)
No pre-registration needed, please come!
Cost: $20-$50 sliding scale
Optional 85-page homebrew biodiesel guidebook
Homebrew Biodiesel Equipment Building and Design Class
May 30, 12-6
Berkeley CA
email me for directions to the workshop site:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
$20-$50 sliding scale
optional 80-page biodiesel homebrewing guidebook available $8
I am teaching a one-day biodiesel equipment building workshop
Here is an article I just wrote for my zine, trying to make sense of the
standard US lab method for testing for soap in oils (I Am Not A Chemist).
A couple of years ago a bunch of us were looking pretty hard at the
Leonardo european vocational training website (
Typo:
I wrote this and it's wrong:
To convert from the weight measurements above to volume measurements that
we use, use the following: Biodiesel: approx .97 kg/liter (I'm not sure if
this applies to unwashed though) Glycerol: approx 1.26 kg per liter (not
sure if this applies to glycerol
Here are the classes and biodiesel events (mostly in northern California)
that I know about in the next few months. This listing is from the
california biodiesel events list,
www.groups.yahoo.com/group/norcal-biodiesel-events . More details will be
posted there for some of these events.
If
Here are the details of the two Biodiesel workshops in Tucson this month:
May 22- Homebrew Biodiesel Comprehensive Workshop, 10-5
Wear closed toe shoes and long pants, bring safety glasses if you have
them, and be prepared for being in a no-air-conditioning building most of
the day (the
offtopic:
Does anyone on these lists in the US have for sale:
any of the following Volkswagen diesel engines or engine parts from the
Rabbit/Jetta/Golf family:
1. functioning (or at least not cracked) 1.6L, non-turbo cylinder head (12
mm bolts),
2. or a 1.6 turbodiesel motor in any condition
County's first biodiesel station cooks up alternative to gasoline
Berkeley venture offers vegetable oil recycled as environmentally friendly
fuel
By Kristin Bender, STAFF WRITER
BERKELEY -- BioFuel Oasis, the first biodiesel station in Alameda County,
doesn't have a pump or those handy
Real Women Make Biodiesel: Women's Homebrew Biodiesel Workshop
Thursday, May 6 and Friday, May 7th, 6-9 pm
(On May 7th, come with snack food at 5:30, for an optional question and
answer discussion on topics from the previous day)
With Maria 'Mark' Alovert and Pamela Beitz
Space limits the
Hi,
As some of you know, we have a homebrew biodiesel equipment photo and plans
archive at www.veggieavenger.com/media - the home of the 'water
heater'-based reactor as well as many others.
If you have any photos of your biodiesel gear (or svo or waste oil burners
for that matter!) and
Hello all,
Biodiesel homebrewing Class, Tucson, May 22:
I'm doing a homebrew biodiesel class in Tucson Arizona on May 22nd, and
will be sending out more info about this workshop in a couple of days. The
homebrew class will be a 10-5 event, and will cover basics of biodiesel
process. I will be
two more things,
1. the biodiesel homebrew reactor system I'm proposing for the equipment
building class below can be seen at www.veggieavenger.com/media under $150
fumeless reactor plans and Sean Parks' Standpipe Wash Tank' threads
2. I am also planning on coming to Albuquerque New Mexico
We are hosting an intensive biodiesel equipment building class/workparty in
April in Santa Cruz, California, aiming to make homebrew systems for
several people by the end of the two-day class/workparty. Additionally,
there'll be a showing of some biodiesel documentaries and a barbeque
potluck
Sorry about the somewhat redundant info, but here's a coops-only version of
my solicitation to join the local-b100-biz list.
mark
Hi all,
I've had the busiest winter of my life, learning all sorts of annoying
lessons by making a 200 gallon per day plant in my
::**::**::Biodiesel Car Show::**::**::
Saturday March 27, 2004 10 am- 3 pm - FREE!
Downtown Berkeley Farmer's Market
Allston Way between Milvia Street and Martin Luther
King Jr. Way
Get inspired to end your petroleum addiction! Say goodbye to foreign oil
dependence and spewing
greenhouse gases
Hi folks,
I post photos and plans for various biodiesel equipment over on the
www.veggieavenger.com/media forum and encourage any of you to post photos
or diagrams of their biodiesel or SVO equipment there as well.
If you register as a user to the veggieavenger forum, there's a handy
'topic
I'm running a biodiesel equipment building Intensive class two days- April
10th and 11th, 10 am-5 pm, Santa Cruz.
To register and for location, please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
this is a hands-on class where we'll build:
-A `fumeless' enclosed processor which can be converted to a
methanol
I was planning on dismantling two of my old reactors and wash tanks
because
I am now using bigger equipment, but I thought I'd offer them for sale
first before scrapping (and reusing) the parts.
They're built from an upside down barrel, with a heating element, drain
and separate dip tube
I'm flirting with the idea of doing a Biodiesel Homebrew Education tour
this summer. It's still in the 'whim' stage and Im not completely committed
to doing this- I might try and find a real job instead, or intensify my
search for a sailboat, or something similar that might take up my summer
here are the classes and biodiesel events (mostly in northern California)
that I know about in the next few months. There are several more 'in the
works' which I don't have exact dates for yet, please keep checking at
www.groups.yahoo.com/group/norcal-biodiesel-events for more details.
If you
Comprehensive Homebrew Biodiesel Class
March 13, 2004
At Biofuel Station, Laytonville, CA
instructor: Maria Mark Alovert
Biodiesel is a renewable fuel made from any plant oil and other fats.
It can be used in any diesel engine without modifications, and can be made
easily in your
Here's the background to the upcoming California B100 ban. Yes, its coming
in response to commentary from oil companies.
the following is commentary submitted to the CDFA Division of Measurement
Standards , from several months ago during the public comment period.
here's a link to a photo log of another reactor I just built with some
Biofuel list members.
It also contains a (perhaps confusing?) description of some pressure issues
I've had with sealed reactors:
http://www.veggieavenger.com/avengerboard/viewtopic.php?t=377
[Non-text portions of this
(Apologies for the crossposting and apologies if you've gotten this message
multiple times in your inbox)
Sales of all B100 biodiesel are about to be banned in California, on the
technicality that the biodiesel specification, ASTM D-6751, is technically
entitled a biodiesel 'blendstock'
(crossposted from the US small producers list)
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], skillshare [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
(quoting Keith Addison):
Highlights included a plant tour at Imperial Western
Products' (www.biotanefuels.com) biodiesel plant
hi folks,
Keith Addison is deleting his Yahoogroups Biofuels-biz discussion list
shortly, with the hope that the relevant discussion continues on Biofuel.
I am starting a new discussion list for small producers/small
distributors in the US. I was hoping to start this and to actually give
hi folks,
Keith Addison is deleting his Yahoogroups Biofuels-biz discussion list
shortly, with the hope that the relevant discussion continues on Biofuel.
I am starting a new discussion list for small producers/small
distributors in the US. I was hoping to start this and to actually give
I looked at the NBB's fee structure a little more closely, and some
interesting things came up. (where I looked was the
www.me.iastate.edu/biodiesel 'online course', to be fair, rather than the
NBB website)
We keep quoting a $5,000 fee plus a royalty on every gallon produced. This
is
OOPS!
It got pointed out to me that I put a dollar sign in the wrong place in the
NBB fee structure post, though I think it was fairly obvious what the real
numbers should have been.
Everywhere I said something like:
.01 cents per gallon produced (one hundredth of a cent)
it actually should
(apologies for the crossposting..)
I looked at the NBB's fee structure a little more closely, and some
interesting things came up. (where I looked was the
www.me.iastate.edu/biodiesel 'online course', to be fair, rather than the
NBB website)
We keep quoting a $5,000 fee plus a royalty on
OOPS!
It got pointed out to me that I put a dollar sign in the wrong place in the
NBB fee structure post, though I think it was fairly obvious what the real
numbers should have been.
Everywhere I said something like:
.01 cents per gallon produced (one hundredth of a cent)
it actually should
Both the individuals whose messages are below, were
heavily involved in the campaign to get us the NAFT
Gas B100 pump.
Mark
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Eric Lyons
wrote:
Mark:
Thanks for your analysis. I think the important
take home points are
something like:
1. Commercial fuel
programs I am aware of) to constitute adequate
involvement for non-paid members who may be interested in participating-
what other programs for being involved in the organization are there,
especially for those seeking to influence national-level policies within
the industry?
Respectfully,
Maria girl
Panel Discussion- A Critical Look at the Biodiesel Industry
Tuesday, January 20, 7-9pm
BioFuel Oasis, 2465 4th St @ Dwight in Berkeley
$5-10 donation requested
Do we want Monsanto and petroleum companies to control the biodiesel industry?
Well, they already do to a certain extent.
Find out
I put a listing of homebrew biodiesel supplies and equipment sources for
part of the SF Bay area up on the veggieavenger.com forum:
http://www.veggieavenger.com/avengerboard/viewforum.php?f=26sid=83f889d8feb096a9bd6c78fd38c70764
These are set up as Word files to download and print, since I
California Biodiesel Consumers Conference
Towards sustainable biodiesel for passenger car and
small business B100 consumers in California
January 31 and Feb 1 , 10am-5 pm
Pitzer College, Claremont, CA
More info coming soon at:
www.veggieavenger.com/conference
Email us:
California Biodiesel Consumers Conference
Towards sustainable biodiesel for passenger car and
small business B100 consumers in California
January 31 and Feb 1 , 10am-5 pm
Pitzer College, Claremont, CA
More info coming soon at:
www.veggieavenger.com/conference
Email us: [EMAIL
Biodiesel Equipment Building Class
Saturday, Dec. 13th, 10:00 a.m. - 3:00 p.m.
San Gregorio Stage Stop (corner of Hwy 84 and Stage
Road, 10 miles south of Half Moon Bay just off of Hwy
101)
Instructor: Maria 'Mark' Alovert.
$15- 50 sliding scale
Bring potluck lunch to share.
Please RSVP to
Hi William,
Good luck with this project, send me more as you
write
it (as in, plans for the physical facility) and if I
have time I'll try and send you any comments if
desired (no promises).
I recommend that you go to the Iowa State University
workshops on commercial biodiesel- it'll
Just doing a bit of research for a biodiesel presentation that our group is
doing Nov 12th, looking for new FAQ information, and luckily for me, this
summary of algae 'debunking' just came over the burnveggies list. We often
get questions from people who are 'starry-eyed' about the idea of
Run Your Car on Vegetable Oil
BIODIESEL: A home-grown alternative fuel
Wednesday, November 12, 7-9 pm, $free
Ecology Center Bookstore, 2530 San Pablo Ave, Berkeley
Join us at the Ecology Center Bookstore for a
panel discussion about one of the most exciting
alternative fuels today,
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:48:49 EDT
Subject: Weekend fire destroys backyard biodiesel
operation
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Weekend fire destroys backyard biodiesel operation
10/20/2003
ASHFIELD, Mass. -- Tom Leue says
Forwarded message from someone replying to my CDFA
rant:
-
Wow, you said a mouthful!
I noticed a spelling error or two but I would like to
point out that chevronmakes no note of the fact that
in the late 80's they went to a low sulfurdiesel which
had a lower
The CDFA/DMS public comment period deadline (about the
biodiesel-negative warning labeling)is tomorrow,
though they will read anything they get by mail till
the 20th (send in letters...)
Here's my longwinded rebuttal to some of their
concerns about biodiesel standards.
Mark
Dear sirs,
My name
That brings up something for me that I was just wondering about (being a
bucket chemist as well, and in fact a very ignorant one):
what are the reactants in saponification? Is water a catalyst or a reactant
there? Is there anything other than soap formed? What is the role of heat
in
Hi all,
My life just got a little more exciting. I and my teaching partner and one
of our biodiesel interns are going on a road trip in a little VW she just
bought, all heading to Ames Iowa for the Iowa State University commercial
biodiesel workshop series in mid-august.. Buying a cheap VW and
Hi all,
My life just got a little more exciting. I and my teaching partner and one
of our biodiesel interns are going on a road trip in a little VW she just
bought, all heading to Ames Iowa for the Iowa State University commercial
biodiesel workshop series in mid-august.. Buying a cheap VW and
Hello all,
I started a new announcements email list for biodiesel-related events
happening in Northern California. It is open for anyone to join and view
the archives, however, it is not a discussion forum. It's an
announcement-only newsletter', so it should stay low-volume. I expect to
post
Hi Locals:
I'm teaching a free biodiesel how-to workshop this Sunday, June 8th at the
Domes student co-op at UC Davis, 11 am-3 pm.
Unlike some of my other workshops, this one will be demo-style- ie, not
hands-on for the students, due to possible UC nervousness about such
things- but I'll
, biodiesel activist and fleet manager
of Berkeley's B-100-powered curbside recycling fleet
-Kumar Plocher of Yokayo Biofuels, who deliver B-100
to retail customers in Northern California
-Maria girl Mark Alovert, homebrew biodiesel educator and member of the
Berkeley Biodiesel Co-op/Biodiesel
Apologies to all the out-of-state people getting my last few announcements,
this is last of these pesky California events announcements for today.
***
Hands-on Homebrew Biodiesel Class, June 29, Ukiah, CA
Join girl Mark and Kumar Plocher at Yokayo Biofuels
that is a great document, but that QC recommendation is only a recommendation.
There isn't particularly an enforcable law about how often companies run
analysis, I dont' think...
mark
At 04:57 PM 6/4/2003 -0500, you wrote:
The most recent guideline that I have found for how often to QC
The odd thing is that it is the big guys (two of them apparently in the
past few weeks) who are having obvious quality control problems, and that
they're not admiting it (or catching the problem) until some
customer/retailer points it out (both World Energy and another producer
who just
Hello all,
I started a new announcements email list for biodiesel-related events
happening in Northern California. It is open for anyone to join and view
the archives, however, it is not a discussion forum. It's an
announcement-only newsletter', so it should stay low-volume. I expect to
post
Hi Locals:
I'm teaching a free biodiesel how-to workshop this Sunday, June 8th at the
Domes student co-op at UC Davis, 11 am-3 pm.
Unlike some of my other workshops, this one will be demo-style- ie, not
hands-on for the students, due to possible UC nervousness about such
things- but I'll
, biodiesel activist and fleet manager
of Berkeley's B-100-powered curbside recycling fleet
-Kumar Plocher of Yokayo Biofuels, who deliver B-100
to retail customers in Northern California
-Maria girl Mark Alovert, homebrew biodiesel educator and member of the
Berkeley Biodiesel Co-op/Biodiesel
Apologies to all the out-of-state people getting my last few announcements,
this is last of these pesky California events announcements for today.
***
Hands-on Homebrew Biodiesel Class, June 29, Ukiah, CA
Join girl Mark and Kumar Plocher at Yokayo Biofuels
Hi levent,
Just a few comments on home quality control:
I do not know the situation in USA.
I agree that home brewers can destroy the market if they produce and sell
bad-products.
Are you speaking from experience with 'bad homebrew?'
Many of them are not equipped with proper facilities
(crossposted from biofuels-biz)At 01:23 PM 5/30/2003 -0700, you wrote:
Hi levent,
Just a few comments on home quality control:
Levent wrote:
I do not know the situation in USA.
I agree that home brewers can destroy the market if they produce and sell
bad-products.
mark wrote:
Are you
On the other hand, here's another post about some bad fuel that is being sold:
http://forums.biodieselnow.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=640whichpage=1
read towards the bottom of the first page and then follow the next few.
This is about Re-Fine LLC brand fuel being sold in pre-packaged pails at
some
Hi folks,
This just turned up on the Biodieselnow forum (and apparently in response
to something on tdiclub I believe). Someone was complaining about what they
thought to be poor quality biodiesel.
It then came up that there was some other complaints about World Energy
biodiesel sold recently
(crossposted from biofuels-biz)At 01:23 PM 5/30/2003 -0700, you wrote:
Hi levent,
Just a few comments on home quality control:
Levent wrote:
I do not know the situation in USA.
I agree that home brewers can destroy the market if they produce and sell
bad-products.
mark wrote:
Are you
On the other hand, here's another post about some bad fuel that is being sold:
http://forums.biodieselnow.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=640whichpage=1
read towards the bottom of the first page and then follow the next few.
This is about Re-Fine LLC brand fuel being sold in pre-packaged pails at
some
Hi all,
I wanted to clear up something in an older post here: it was a post about
the status of the EPA position on small producers. IN the end of this, was
the following email from Tom Leue. If I am not mistaken, the story related
below (told by Graham Noyes of World Enegy) was never
Hi all,
I wanted to clear up something in an older post here: it was a post about
the status of the EPA position on small producers. IN the end of this, was
the following email from Tom Leue. If I am not mistaken, the story related
below (told by Graham Noyes of World Enegy) was never
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