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Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol substitution
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 01:15:35 +0300
Just a thoght bu would it be possible to use methane or propane or
buthane instead of methanol? One would have to have some methanol
methane, propane etc. are hydrocarbons. You need alcohols for a
transesterification reaction.
Sorry, they won't work
Teoman Naskali wrote:
Just a thoght bu would it be possible to use methane or propane or
buthane instead of methanol? One would have to have some methanol for
the methroxide
How would you react the solution with the gas?
Teoman Naskali wrote:
Just a thoght bu would it be possible to use methane or propane or
buthane instead of methanol? One would have to have some methanol for
the methroxide but still... that would save a lot of money.
Has anynone experimented?
Beer or wine works, but you should not drink it until AFTER the reaction.
bob allen wrote:
methane, propane etc. are hydrocarbons. You need alcohols for a
transesterification reaction.
Sorry, they won't work
Teoman Naskali wrote:
Just a thoght bu would it be possible to use methane or
I am trying to set up a methanol recovery still for my appleseed reactor
and was wondering if a PVC tank made from a sealed 6 diameter tube would
be acceptable. According to a chemical compatibility chart I found it
says that PVC is okay to use with methanol but I wonder. Is the reason
steel and
I am trying to set up a methanol recovery still for my appleseed reactor
and was wondering if a PVC tank made from a sealed 6 diameter tube would
be acceptable. According to a chemical compatibility chart I found it
says that PVC is okay to use with methanol but I wonder. Is the reason
steel and
No, I understand I need to drain off the fuel first to the wash tank and
then recover the methanol from the glycerol by product only.
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I am trying to set up a methanol recovery still for my appleseed
reactor
and was wondering if a PVC tank made from a
9.1.1 Microorganisms
The toxicity of methanol to each of three bacterial groups, i.e.,
aerobic heterotrophic, Nitrosomonas and methanogens (key agents in
the natural recycling of organic material in the environment and in
wastewater treatment systems), was described by Blum Speece (1991).
methanol my biodegrade but into what?
if it degrades into methane that is a green house gas?
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that is a green house gas?
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Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 02:10:47 +0900
9.1.1 Microorganisms
The toxicity
Bobby,
There is a petroleum dealer in Eastman, Ga that to you (minimum 3x55
gallon barrels).
I bought 3 for $450. They are very good to do business with and ask
few questions.
They might do a shipment for you. I know for a fact that they
delivered to me in LA (lower ALABAMA!) yes- I know I
the setup and hopefully with success on this something a
little more permanent.
Regards,
John
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 22:33:09 +0900
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Cheers for the info, I will drop into the local hardware store and see what
I can find
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can put a
thermostat on it, and they run about 1500 watts.
jason
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Hi Guys,
I have found getting a submersible heating element
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Hello John
Greetings,
I'm finally finding the time to make a processor, but find myself
hanging on a couple
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handling tips needed
Try www.omega.com
for stainless heater elements.
Joe
Zeke Yewdall wrote:
How about standard water heater elements? You might be able to getstainless steel ones for the higher quality tanks
Greetings,
I'm finally finding the time to make a processor, but find myself
hanging on a couple of points. First off I'm just going with
something that resembles the 5gal processor listed on JTF to start.
The problem is that I'm not grasping the process in handling the
methanol and lye
Hello John
Greetings,
I'm finally finding the time to make a processor, but find myself
hanging on a couple of points. First off I'm just going with
something that resembles the 5gal processor listed on JTF to start.
The problem is that I'm not grasping the process in handling the
methanol and
Anyone know a cheap source of methanol in Miami Florida?
Also I still need a source for purchasing a PH tester.
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places)
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Hello John
Greetings,
I'm
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Hello John
Greetings,
I'm finally finding the time to make a processor, but find myself
hanging on a couple of points. First off I'm just going with
something that resembles the 5gal processor listed
: [Biofuel] Methanol handling tips needed
Hello John
Greetings,
I'm finally finding the time to make a processor, but find myself
hanging on a couple of points. First off I'm just going with
something that resembles the 5gal processor listed on JTF to start.
The problem is that I'm not grasping
OK, Lets see if I have this straight,
from what I have read;
- Methanol is bad as a single fuel unless designed for it, but ok to
disperse water as an additive like Heet,
- Washed Biodiesel is a compound containing methanol so it does not
react like methanol nor have its properties - But if you
So, if I use ASTM washed biodiesel, how much of it could I add in a
gas engine? Greg, I think you said 15% or so in the jeeps, but I'm
wondering what effects you notices on energy performance: smoother,
harder starting, plug life, mileage, etc
Thanks
Zeke
Boulder, CO, USA
On 9/7/05,
Hi Gregg
Hi Keith,
I was just giving him info that I had run across in the owner's manual of a car I'd just bought to which I was thinking of adding a little BD with the gas. Once I saw that warning, I elected to err on the side of caution. I have seen that warning in at least 4 owner's manuals
I haven't followed this thread too closely so if my comments are off the mark,
just ignore them.
1. the methanol in fatty acid methyl esters is chemically combined so is a
non-issue with respect
to concerns about methanol in engines.
2. Spark ignition engines are not built to burn diesel
Hi:
Don't professional race car drivers use methanol in their engines? So
why can't it be used in an ordinary car? I'm guessing race car engines
should be more sensitive. Anyone care to comment?
Best,
Christopher
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Methanol is a common thing to put in a tank of gas anywhere in the world
when it gets cold outside ... it stops the water from pooling in the
tank and freezing... its avalable in any store arould here in the states
http://www.goldeagle.com/heet/index.htm Heet is 100% methanol
Ray J
Hello Christopher and all
Hi:
Don't professional race car drivers use methanol in their engines? So
why can't it be used in an ordinary car? I'm guessing race car engines
should be more sensitive. Anyone care to comment?
Best,
Christopher
I went looking some time back and foun this at a race
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol in Engines was Materials,Venturis and
Biodiesel
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 17:20:26 -0700
Hi:
Don't professional race car drivers use methanol in their engines? So
why can't
Methanol is an excellent fuel. (in some respects at least) It requires
drastically different jetting in the carbs or injection programing.
IIRC the stoichiometric ratio for gasoline is about 14:1 A/F ratio but
for methanol is something like 4:1. Figure this into economy
calculations. Heat of
Thanks guys.
Best,
Chris
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Hello
Thats funny .. i have been around race engines on and off for years, on
dirt tracks , drag strips, and go karts and have not heard / seen
anything special about them compared to their gasoline burning versions
other than carb setup. mabey its just on them million dollar indy
car
Hi Keith,
I was just giving him info that I had run across in the owner's manual ofacar I'd just bought to whichI was thinking of adding a little BD with the gas. Once I saw that warning, I elected to err on the side of caution.I have seen that warning in at least4 owner's manuals from different
Ray, it's been well known for many years that high concentrations
of methanol have a bad effect on light metals and their alloys, and on
many organic compounds used in engine intake systems. It's been so well
known for so long that the racers who use methanol fuel mostly all know
about and take
Hi all,and Duncan,
maybe u can help me with a suplier of methanol,in S.A. preferebly close to the
vaal triangle and the price of it
thanx
Kobus
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Hi Kobus,
Protea Chemicals... they have a nice website.
Jurie.
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Hi all,and Duncan,
maybe u can help
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Hi all,and Duncan,
maybe u can help me with a suplier of methanol,in S.A. preferebly close
Hi,Duncan
thanx a million the best i could do was r6/l
thanx again
regards
kobus
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Thanks Jan
But is that a yes or a no on question
1
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Thanks Jan
Ian
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Yes, old methanol is always a problem.
Both for speedway racers and for biodiesel producers
I was talking toa friend that races cars and
he said that methanol kept for a long??time degraded and didn't work as well. Is
this a problem for us?
As a matter of interest does biodiesel make the
sump oil in your car go as black as dinodiesel?
Cheers Ian
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Ian
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Subject: [Biofuel] methanol
I was talking toa friend that races cars
and he said that methanol kept for a long??time degraded and didn't work as
well. Is this a problem for us
Thanks Jan
But is that a yes or a no on question
1
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Hello Ian.
Answer #1: Methanol attracts water. So,
old
On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 05:23:11PM -0500, James G. Branaum wrote:
I buy my methanol in bulk at the local representative of the refinery. I
strongly suspect is probably not available in your area. I also don't think
you want to use it unless you make it yourself.
What do you mean by making it
, July 22, 2005 2:53 AM
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] methanol and airmodel engine fuel
On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 05:23:11PM -0500, James G. Branaum wrote:
I buy my methanol in bulk at the local representative of the refinery. I
strongly suspect is probably not available
Hi,
As I've found it nearly impossible buy small (1-2 litres) amounts of
pure methanol here, in Poland, I've taken closer look at model fuels.
They mostly contain methanol (40-85%), castor oil, EDL synthetic oil
and additions.
Now, castor oil might be even good. EDL definately not - luckily not
Hi Rafal,
Maybe this model-fuel is meant for 2takt engines,
and thats whats the mixed-in oil is for?
If it's only oil, you mite be able ( if you've got equipment)
to distill the methanol out of it;
but is this stuff water free?
And I'm afraid that modelairplain-fuel is way to expensive
AM
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Hi,
As I've found it nearly impossible buy small (1-2 litres) amounts of
pure methanol here, in Poland, I've taken closer look at model fuels.
They mostly contain methanol (40-85%), castor oil, EDL synthetic
On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 11:39:30AM -0500, James G. Branaum wrote:
I have been mixing my own model airplane engine fuel for the last 12 years
or so. I normally use 70% methanol, 10% nitro methane (as an igniter) and
20% oil of various make ups. I eschew castor because it gums things up
unless
On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 06:30:57PM +0200, Bruno M. wrote:
Hi Rafal,
Maybe this model-fuel is meant for 2takt engines,
and thats whats the mixed-in oil is for?
Yes, it is typical 2-stroke engine fuel.
If it's only oil, you mite be able ( if you've got equipment)
to distill the methanol
taxable consumable.
Cheers.
Jim Branaum -
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On Thu, Jul 21
test batches, (1 litre), and lurking on this fine list, absorbing
information, and reading a lot on the biodiesel pages.
I guess I've got a decent grip on the process and the chemistry
involved, but I've had a question that I've not found the answer to yet.
If I'm using 20% by volume of
I've been preparing my processing system, done a little in the way of
test batches, (1 litre), and lurking on this fine list, absorbing
information, and reading a lot on the biodiesel pages.
I guess I've got a decent grip on the process and the chemistry
involved, but I've had a question
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Hi all,
The local price for 1 liter of petrol (gas) is over 5.00, I can get
methanol
for 2.83. The obvious question is is it safe to put methanol into the
petrol
and how much? It also
Hi all,
The local price for 1 liter of petrol (gas) is over 5.00, I can get methanol
for 2.83. The obvious question is is it safe to put methanol into the petrol
and how much? It also makes me wonder why methanol is not used as a fuel
more.
The car I drive is fuel injected, would putting
Hello Biodeisel mavens! I have started my preliminary experimentation
with the biodeisel manufacturing process. Everything is going alright,
but I have concerns about the safety of methanol.
I bought a 5 gallon drum of methanol for use in my experiments.
Finding that it was difficult to transfer
Hi group:
If somebody has information how to make methanol from natural gas,
references and or links are very welcome.
Jose
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My biggest concern about mixing flammable materials in a blender is that in
industry, you would normally see explosion proof motors used in such an
application. If your container seal leaks and a flammable mixture gets inside
the motor enclosure, you might get a small explosion.
My risk
My biggest concern about mixing flammable materials in a blender is
that in industry, you would normally see explosion proof motors used
in such an application. If your container seal leaks and a flammable
mixture gets inside the motor enclosure, you might get a small
explosion.
In fact
Mike, Keith, thanks for your comments, they put a restless mind to rest.
On Apr 4, 2005 8:31 AM, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Mike, Thomas
My biggest concern about mixing flammable materials in a blender is
that in industry, you would normally see explosion proof motors
Blenders exploding?
Not so that pieces of blender are embedded in your head. But, nevertheless a
rapid expansion of gasses from the ignition of a stoichiometric mixture in the
motor enclosure (OK, that hurt, my brain is tired).
The ignited gasses from the motor enclosure could vent outside
I have a copy of Brown's Second Alcohol Fuel Cookbook
by Michael H. Brown. In it, there is a section on
methanol production (pg 125). It lists the ingredients
and equipment and continues with a section called
Step-by-Step Procedures. The procedure goes into a
lot of detail and describes what
Kieth and Tom,
Sorry. I stand corrected. When I looked in the index under methanol, it pointed
me to pg 125 and indeed, it began talking about methanol. But the last few
sentences led you into a Step-by-Step Procedure for making ethanol from wood.
I went straight to the procedure before
Hello Tom , Mike e Keith
The methanol production from saw dust need to done via
thermochemical route , require much energy input , as no bacteria
yet commercially can make methanol where as ethanol production
via reusable enzymes require low energy input.
What Mike refer
Sorry. I stand corrected. When I looked in the index under methanol,
it pointed me to pg 125 and indeed, it began talking about methanol.
But the last few sentences led you into a Step-by-Step Procedure
for making ethanol from wood.
I went straight to the procedure before thoroughly
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short answer yes. (methanol.. backyard) if money is no object.H.
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No. We've been discussing this since the list was founded five years ago,
but nobody's found a solution yet. Dr Tom Reed, who probably knows more
about methanol than most, told me we just aren't there yet.
Tom's knowledge of the field is such that when one finds
themselves in
owner
Tom Irwin
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short answer yes. (methanol.. backyard) if money is no object.H.
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Hi Tom and Kieth,
I have a copy of Brown's Second Alcohol Fuel Cookbook
by Michael H. Brown. In it, there is a section on
methanol production (pg 125). It lists the ingredients
and equipment and continues with a section called
Step-by-Step Procedures. The procedure goes into a
lot of detail and
As a newcomer to the biodiesel world I was wondering if it was possible to
make methanol in your backyard so to speak? And the other question is it
possible to make biodiesel with ethanol? I am putting together a proposal
for an East African country to follow Brazils lead and have to do some
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As a newcomer to the biodiesel world I was wondering if it was possible to
make methanol in your backyard so
As a newcomer to the biodiesel world I was wondering if it was possible to
make methanol in your backyard so to speak?
No. We've been discussing this since the list was founded five years
ago, but nobody's found a solution yet. Dr Tom Reed, who probably
knows more about methanol than most,
consider
somebody selling cone-bottom barrels on Ebay. I read a great JTF
article
on how to make them ... I have two college degrees, and realized I
couldn't
make one, nor could I instruct my farmer father-in-law on how to do it
...
we'd both be grinding till the
See below...
Ebay: thanks Theo, forgot about them. Why not ... starting out,
I'd consider
somebody selling cone-bottom barrels on Ebay. I read a great
JTF article
on how to make them ... I have two college degrees, and
realized I couldn't
make one, nor could I instruct my farmer
Reverse osmosis could remove the methanol from the glycerine. You
just need to find a membrane with a housing that is resistant to
methanol.
Andy
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Ken Provost wrote:
on 2/4/05 5:41 AM, Legal Eagle at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have just completed a simple condenser for methanol recovery, however I am
still left with a question.
Do I need to bring the glycerine to a rolling boil or just bring up the heat
sufficiently to get the methanol to evaporate (148.5F/65C) not necessarily
boiling ?
Luc
on 2/4/05 5:41 AM, Legal Eagle at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
G'day;
I have just completed a simple condenser for methanol recovery, however I am
still left with a question.
Do I need to bring the glycerine to a rolling boil or just bring up the heat
sufficiently to get the methanol to
on 2/4/05 5:41 AM, Legal Eagle at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
G'day;
I have just completed a simple condenser for methanol recovery, however I am
still left with a question.
Do I need to bring the glycerine to a rolling boil or just bring up the heat
sufficiently to get the methanol to
This is probably going to be a matter of local and maybe state
regulation. I would first check with your local health and fire
departments to see if there are city or county regulations. They can
put you on to any state regulations. As far as I know there are no
federal regulations that
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Does anyone know of any restrictions on storing methanol in your garage
ect.
Keep it away from the heater
Does anyone know of any restrictions on storing methanol in your garage ect.
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Does anyone know of any restrictions on storing methanol in your garage ect.
It varies from town to town and also varies by quantity. If you want to store
55 gal then you would want to contact the fire marshal and ask them. Typically
you would need a flammables storage cabinet (those big
Is there anyone on the list that needs methanol and is in range of
Indianapolis? I had bought a drum several months ago with the plan of
starting biodiesel production, but then decided to move. After a few
changes in plans and a lot of uncertainty, we are finally planning a real
move to Ukiah,
methoxide to be used according to the pH of oil that one uses?
Also, is there somebody who has a table which indicates the proportions of
lye and methanol to be used to create the best methoxide according to the pH
of oil that one uses?
What's the secret, why can't I get good biodiesel.
on 11/12/04 1:54 PM, Gabriel Proulx at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there somebody who has a table which indicates the proportions of
methoxide to be used according to the pH of oil that one uses?
Also, is there somebody who has a table which indicates the proportions of
lye and methanol to
: Friday, November 12, 2004 4:54 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] methanol quantity
Is there somebody who has a table which indicates the proportions of
methoxide to be used according to the pH of oil that one uses?
Also, is there somebody who has a table which indicates the proportions of
lye and methanol
snip
By the way, How much does a 55 gallon drum of pure methanol cost in
your area?
Also, what is your area?
ps(to the list)
What does everyone else pay for their chemicals? Please include size
of product
and area of country(us) .
Everyone else is not in the US, in fact most of them
.
No metalic parts, no air exposure, no kaboom.
Luc
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safely
After 11 months of research
is more complete so i am going to save it :)
Luc
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carboy safely
Drum in upright position: remove
Thanks to all who replied with their local prices.
jsh
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tocarboy safely
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 04:34:30 +0900
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By the way, How
methanol for $40. I buy my methanol in 55 gal steel drums and pump it with
that very pump... Doon't forget the resperator...Punasurfer
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ps(to the list)
What does everyone else pay for their chemicals? Please include size of
product
and area of country(us) .
Jonathan
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tocarboy
pay for their chemicals? Please include size of
product
and area of country(us) .
Jonathan
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tocarboy safely
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 01:05:34
in May for a 55 gal drum of methanol
-Kevin
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Drumstocarboy safely
Kevin-
We use this set up to empty
. What's
the point of asking this question anyway? Are you going to make a
list and maintain it somewhere on the web, keeping it comprehensive
and up to date?
Keith
Jonathan
From: Kevin Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol
Drum in upright position: remove the small cap and fit a ball valve
(preferably teflon inner husing) with a hose connector on the other side
into the threads, sealing with teflon tape. Lay the drum flat on a stand
(make of wood, or if enough skilled weld of steel tubes). Takes two quite
Kevin try this link.
http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/category.asp?catalog%5Fname=usplasticcategory%5Fname=24990Page=1.
They have some helpful products. Jonathan Schearer.
Kevin Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:After 11 months of research of biodiesel
and pondering methanol safety, I have not
--- Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
Quality testing
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_vehicle.html#quality
One question about this testing: Aleks says, thin
layer
chromatography (tlc) can be used to determine
conversion rate and hence quality.
Has anybody done this ?
What
of renewable
plants, but I don't know of any substitutes for the lumber products forest's
can supply
Doug
- Original Message -
From: jeff younkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees
: Forrests need TLC
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