http://canadafreepress.com/article/ethanol-is-the-wrong-solution
Using government mandates and subsidies to promote politically favored
fuels de jour is a waste of taxpayers' money
Ethanol is the wrong solution
By Marita Noon —— Bio and Archives September 5, 2016
University of Michigan’s
http://www.ethanolproducer.com/articles/13164/nrel-updates-survey-of-advanced-biofuel-producers
NREL updates survey of advanced biofuel producers
By Erin Voegele | March 18, 2016
The National Renewable Energy Laboratory has updated its annual survey
of U.S. non-starch ethanol and renewable
When I was a member of the local municipal Consumer Advisory Panel on
waste management, this was an annual battle. The City would hire a
consultant automaton to review the financials on recycling programs (as
part of waste diversion). Every year, the consultant would report the
recycling
Hmm. Leaving aside the corn based biofuels issue, which I kind of
agree is a bit stupid, his arguments on recycling just don't make sense.
Several times, he mentions that the environmental benefit is not there and
implies that recycling costs more carbon than it saves... but never gives
any
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/22/ethanol-recycling-climate-change-expensive-illusions/
Ethanol, Recycling, Climate Change and Other Expensive Illusions
by John Hayward 22 Oct 2015
The Left is always trying to claim the mantle of unimpeachable
scientific authority for its
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/10/20/ethanol-study-concludes-the-epas-biofuel-standard-created-more-problems-than-solutions/
[links in on-line article]
Ethanol Study Concludes the EPA’s Biofuel Standard Created ‘More
Problems Than Solutions’
Oct. 20, 2015 11:07am Liz Klimas
On
http://www.balkans.com/open-news.php?uniquenumber=207346
Ethanol and biodiesel can be sustainably produced from algae
The BIOFAT project – which runs until April 2016 – has confirmed algae's
potential as a sustainable source of biofuel and bio-products with low
greenhouse gas emissions.
http://www.ethanolproducer.com/articles/12187/urban-air-initiative-partners-in-clean-fuels-omaha-campaign
Urban Air Initiative partners in Clean Fuels Omaha campaign
By Urban Air Initiative | May 04, 2015
The Urban Air Initiative joined with a broad cross section of public and
private
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From: robert and benita rabello rabe...@shaw.ca
Sent: 7/29/2014 9:01 PM
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ethanol Compatibility
On 7/29/2014 2:55 PM, Thomas Kelly wrote:
Will a phantom system
Robert,
I don't think you'll get much argument re: your
contention that any OBDII vehicle can run E85, the
question is for how long.
I only waded through the study you cited, but some
points should be made:
1. It looked at exhaust emissions from 16 vehicles
comparing low ethanol/gasoline
Another reason to replace one's OBD (should one be so cursed) with a phantom
system ... -D
From: Thomas Kelly ontheh...@fairpoint.net
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
Sent: Tuesday, 29 July 2014, 16:30
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ethanol
On 7/29/2014 9:25 AM, Dawie Coetzee wrote:
Another reason to replace one's OBD (should one be so cursed) with a phantom
system ... -D
I did, using a Megasquirt. Tuning for ethanol would be relatively
straightforward. Now, if only distilling ethanol was legal in my
jurisdiction . . .
Will a phantom system and/or Megasquirt adjust on the
fly to varying ethanol concentrations? (E0 through E100)
On 7/29/2014 9:25 AM, Dawie Coetzee wrote:
Another reason to replace one's OBD (should one be so
cursed) with a phantom system ... -D
I did, using a Megasquirt. Tuning
On 7/29/2014 2:55 PM, Thomas Kelly wrote:
Will a phantom system and/or Megasquirt adjust on the
fly to varying ethanol concentrations? (E0 through E100)
No, I don't believe so. That's where the factory flex fuel system
really shines.
Robert Luis Rabello
Adventure for Your Mind
I maintain that any OBDII vehicle can run E85. If your check engine
light comes on, reset it and keep driving. (It's usually an O2 sensor
that triggers the light.) The onboard computer WILL adapt. Here's what
the NREL had to say on the matter:
http://www.ethanolproducer.com/articles/11279/east-kansas-agri-energy-announces-renewable-diesel-project
East Kansas Agri-Energy announces renewable diesel project
By East Kansas Agri-Energy LLC | July 24, 2014
East Kansas Agri-Energy LLC has announced its intent to integrate
renewable diesel
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2014/04/08/ethanol-congress-investments/7467263/
Ethanol proposal has stopped investments in advanced biofuels, industry
tells senators
Christopher Doering, cdoer...@gannett.com 3:28 p.m. CDT April 8, 2014
The Obama administration has
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Hij Jan
Thanks for your reply.
What I was asking about is the 4% (4.37%) water in the azeotrope mix
that won't separate from the water by distillation. When 190-proof
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Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 6:59 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Ethanol and gasoline
Hi all
Would someone who has David Blume's Alcohol Can Be a Gas! please
look up something for me? I can't get at my copy at the moment.
What does
Hi all
Would someone who has David Blume's Alcohol Can Be a Gas! please
look up something for me? I can't get at my copy at the moment.
What does Mr Blume say about blending 95% ethanol (190-proof) with
gasoline? Miscible or not?
Thanks!
Keith
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Sent: Sunday, 28 August 2011, 18:59
Subject: [Biofuel] Ethanol and gasoline
Hi all
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Sent: Sunday, 28 August 2011, 18:59
Subject: [Biofuel] Ethanol and gasoline
Hi all
Would someone who has David Blume's Alcohol Can Be a Gas! please
look up something for me? I can't get at my copy at the moment.
What does Mr Blume say about blending 95% ethanol (190-proof
to be
prepared for ethanol as fuel, of course.
Best regards
Jan W
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Subject: [Biofuel] Ethanol and gasoline
Hi all
Would someone who has David Blume's Alcohol
+
Subject: [Biofuel] Ethanol mini-refinery from Allard Research. Whey Ethanole
From theory to Practice. Finally I got some funds for my cheese whey to
ethanol project, here in Panama, Central America.
I like this automated system,touch screen, remote management, etc.
What do you know
From theory to Practice. Finally I got some funds for my cheese whey to
ethanol project, here in Panama, Central America.
I like this automated system,touch screen, remote management, etc.
What do you know about it? Any info of the company.
Link:
http://www.allardresearch.com/systems.html
Hi Kurt
I live within ten miles of four different E85 pumps, for most of them
it's just right there on one of the islands with the gas pump. It's a
separate nozzle, like diesel, but it isn't attended. If I'm the one
filling the car up, I splash-mix to about an E40 blend by putting the
E85 in
For the most part I have been using straight E85. Single stage, base,
sodium hydroxide since I'm still using up stock. If I have time, I'll
try to move and do some KOH catalyzed.
All my oil is from home use or a frequently changed burger stand,
titrates 5 every time, typically around 1-2.
I live within ten miles of four different E85 pumps, for most of them
it's just right there on one of the islands with the gas pump. It's a
separate nozzle, like diesel, but it isn't attended. If I'm the one
filling the car up, I splash-mix to about an E40 blend by putting the
E85 in first,
Hi All;
It has been a while but I am not idle. I hope everyone is keeping well.
I have been working on converting a 2 stroke to run on ethanol. Engine
work is well underway. I wanted to get some ethanol to start testing
what lubricants I can use as a substitute for the commercial 2 stroke
lubes
i suspect this has more to do with wanting to avoid any chance of
legal action from people who try to get intoxicated with it: you
never told me this was poisonous, so give me 35 million dollars.
ckearly this is lunacy. but there's so many urban legends out there
about punitive damage awards,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI5frPV58tYfeature=user
fuel bit is near the end
The termite proofing sounds great.
Kirk
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fuel bit is near the end
The termite proofing sounds great.
Kirk
That was one to forward to several associates! One of whom works
diligently to keep old growth forests from being sold to logging
No mention of the role of subsidies and the resultant dumping on poor
countries' markets, sad to say.
- Keith
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Ethanol Booms, Farmers Bust
By Lisa M. Hamilton, AlterNet
May 25, 2007
From the news these days you'd think farmers have never had a
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Food
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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:20:42 -0600
this just means that farmers wont be able to afford feeding their
animals
CORN and be forced to graze pastures again. better
or walnuts.
Terry Dyck
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Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 20:25:56 -0700
Well, less meat would probably be a good idea
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Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 20:25:56 -0700
Well, less meat would probably be a good idea for the average american,
but
meat can be had from animals that don't
How about less meat and healthier humans.
Terry Dyck
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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:20:42 -0600
this just means
:
How about less meat and healthier humans.
Terry Dyck
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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:20:42 -0600
this just means
Ethanol Boom Cheers Grain Farmers, Pinches Food Makers
By Lauren Etter, Ilan Brat and Steven GrayWall Street Journal
January 18, 2007
The surge in corn prices ignited by the ethanol boom is rippling
through the nation's economy --- from the Farm Belt to Wall Street to
the office soda
Brazilian cane mills are also powered by leftover cane stalks that
heat caldrons to generate steam and electric energy, an extra
advantage that corn and wheat don't have.
Uh... why not? If you are just using the seeds of the corn (which is
stupid enough, true), what about the whole rest of
this just means that farmers wont be able to afford feeding their animals
CORN and be forced to graze pastures again. better meat and healthier
animals, not too bad i guess...
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Reuters Summit - Ethanol use has Environmental Downsides
BRAZIL: January 22, 2007
SAO PAULO - Biofuels have the potential to lessen the impact of human
civilization on the environment, but even the greenest of renewable
fuels
That's cool! I mean the ethyl alcohol bit...I'm quite
keen on distilling my own fuel as well. I've started a
reflux still, but haven't gotten it finished (I don't
have any tools to braze ferrous metals - steel, to
non-ferrous metals - copper). But it's always
encouraging to read of other folks
Still in need of practical experience. My dad threw out an old lawn mower i
was going to experiment on, but i'll find something, just need to find the
time and effort. The trimmer for one, adjustable carb and all. Changing or
drilling jets is easy, it should work that way, make fine adjustments
Methyl ethyl ketone is at least the solvent of choice in the aviation
industry. The general rule of thumb in those circles being that everything's
more toxic than in the automotive department: leaded AvGas, high sulfur jet
fuel(not to mention the additives they throw in), hydraulic fluid which
That's cool! I mean the ethyl alcohol bit...I'm quite
keen on distilling my own fuel as well. I've started a
reflux still, but haven't gotten it finished (I don't
have any tools to braze ferrous metals - steel, to
non-ferrous metals - copper). But it's always
encouraging to read of other folks
be better in terms of rubber
compatibility.
Tom
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Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ethanol for gas cars
methanol degrades rubber parts,sure
Hello All,
I've read that people using ethanol, blend in 15 - 20% gasoline to improve
cold weather starts.
What would one do if they were running on 85 - 90% ethanol : 10 -15% water
to improve cold weather starts?
Do flex fuel cars have options for block heaters?
I don't think that adding water would be the right way to go. I think the
problem is that ethanol has a higher vapor pressure than gasoline, and in
cold weather, it is hard to get it to vaporize into a fuel-air mixture
effectively. Gasoline vaporizes much easier, and gets the engine going and
I think I may have misread your questions. It seems you are asking what to
do if you already have the water in there, from homebrew Ethanol?
Hm. Perhaps a dual tank setup like we use for SVO in diesels. A
block heater would probably help, but then you are using alot of electricity
--
i hear toyota and honda have 4cyls that are easily adapted to Flexing.
Jason
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From: Zeke Yewdall
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ethanol and cold
Zeke you have vapor pressure backwards. Lower vapor pressure means less
volatile. The boiling point of a liquid is defined as that temperature
when the vapor pressure equals atmospheric pressure (760 mm Hg at sea
level)
Zeke Yewdall wrote:
I don't think that adding water would be the right
or even gasoline.
Answer: Fill the second tank, flip a switch and off you go.
Thanks Zeke,
Tom
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Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:39 AM
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?
Tom
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Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ethanol and cold starts
Zeke you have vapor pressure backwards. Lower vapor pressure means less
Oops. You are right. But my reasoning was right, if you reverse what i
said about vapor pressure.
Hmmm, methyl ethyle ketone as I recall that stuff is pretty hazardous,
but perhaps no more so than unleaded gasoline.
Z
On 11/28/06, bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Zeke you have vapor
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Oops. You are right. But my reasoning was right, if you reverse what i said
about vapor pressure.
Hmmm, methyl ethyle ketone as I recall that stuff is pretty hazardous,
but perhaps
Hi Zeke,
You wrote: I think that a gas car would run fine on ethanol denatured
with either biodiesel or methanol.
Two questions:
1. I have heard/read from what I consider to be reliable sources that gas cars
can be converted to run fine on 80 - 85% ethanol (15 - 20% water).
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Hi Zeke,
You wrote: I think that a gas car would run fine on ethanol
denatured with either biodiesel or methanol.
Two
functions to accomodate any mixture of the usable fuels.
Jason
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Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ethanol for gas cars
Just
Hi all,
Been a while since I posted (I broke my ankle skateboarding and I had
been sidelined for a while). I've been playing catch-up ever since.
Any way, since I've been back on my feet I've been working on my
camper (77 VW Bus) to get it ready for winter and keep it from falling
to bits.
.
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Derick, you are talking about cellolosic ethanol, that is ethanol made
Sorry Bob my head is up ... in the clouds.
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actually, my name is bob
not make too much sense.
Andrew
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Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 1:01
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Methanol
Hi Doug I am
interested in the ethanol production you are using
/biofuel_library/eth_separate.html#castoil
Best
Keith
Does not make too much sense.
Andrew
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ever.
Thanks Derick.
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What are you people talking about?
have you ever
of yield verses raw product used per
liter /gal or what ever.
Thanks Derick.
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He makes it sound like ethanol is easily done. I maybe reading into this
though. Derick.
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Would like to know the advantages if any of using
Methanol instead of Ethanol in making bio-diesel. It is very easy to make
Ethanol with down to 15% water. Seems kinda silly to make Ethanol and Methanol
if Ethanol will do all.
Have now got a MPEFI Jeep running on 80% Ethanol
and 20% water
Would like to know the advantages if any of using Methanol instead
of Ethanol in making bio-diesel. It is very easy to make Ethanol
with down to 15% water. Seems kinda silly to make Ethanol and
Methanol if Ethanol will do all.
Have now got a MPEFI Jeep running on 80% Ethanol and 20% water as a
: [Biofuel] Ethanol V's
Methanol
Would like to know the advantages if any of using Methanol
instead of Ethanol in making bio-diesel. It is very easy to make Ethanol with
down to 15% water. Seems kinda silly to make Ethanol and Methanol if Ethanol
will do all.
Have now got a MPEFI Jeep
Hi Charles There is a patented information about using the zeolites at the top of the reactor , which can be very selective to adsorb and return back pure alcohol see google search using free patent site.
Then you can recover the catalyst using solar energy to remove water.In the case of ethanol
that the ethanol inserted
has to be anhydrous.
Best of luck to you !
Jan Warnqvist
AGERATEC AB
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Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 4:40 AM
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Hi all
It's slowly turning to spring down here in the southern hemisphere,
and a young man's thoughts turn to what he's going to get up to in
those long summer evenings. Me, I think only of biofuel! I am having
good progress and results with methanol but my long term plan is to
be
On Aug 21, 2006, at 1:57 PM, Charles List wrote:
I would like to know, however, if I can increase the temperature
of the reaction mixture to cut down the time taken for the reaction
as ethanol boils at 78C rather than 65C.
You probably could, but the separation of glycerol takes such
Hello Matthew Law and all.
On July 26th, 2006 you wrote: My biggest issue is that I love to fly.
Almost all aeroplanes still use
leaded avgas in very old, mega-inefficient engines. So, all the work I
may do to reduce my nasty emissions every day is probably cancelled by the
one or two hours
there is a gas station in my hometown that was selling E85 and was doing a
real good job until his wholesalers started raising their prices claiming
lack of supply. im tempted to move back to illinois and feed his tanks just
to twist the petrol companies collective nose. maybe even supplant the
Hi
Ethanol is close to gasoline when referring to fueling energy to an
engine. Therefore cetane number is low even though ethanol prefers
higher pressure than regular gasoline. So ethanol diesel blend to be
viable as fuel and easy the blending has to have two supports: cetane
improver additive
: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:25
PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ethanol for diesel
engines
HiEthanol is close to gasoline when referring to fueling
energy to an engine. Therefore cetane number is low even though ethanol
prefers higher pressure than regular gasoline. So ethanol diesel blend
Ah, it just opens the new energy path.
If only the BD could be used for diesels,
only the energy from oily plants can be harvested for usage in cars.
With this new path, more avenues are opened. Energy input from
starchy plants (especially keeping in mind the ethanol generation from
celulose) can
Hi,
this one fuel combination is interesting.
I've never heard about such possibility before:
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006/06/xcelplus_acquir.html
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Hi Tomas
Hi,
this one fuel combination is interesting.
I've never heard about such possibility before:
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006/06/xcelplus_acquir.html
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Fuel-Cycle Energy and Emission Impacts of Ethanol-Diesel Blends in
Urban Buses and Farming Tractors, (July
Keith,
If I remembered right, the Swedish diesel buses are running on a wood
alcohol mix, with some sort of additive. In Sweden it is now more and
more common that the buses use biofuel.
Hakan
At 18:47 07/06/2006, you wrote:
Hi Tomas
Hi,
this one fuel combination is interesting.
I've
: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 8:43 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] Ethanol for diesel engines
Hi,
this one fuel combination is interesting.
I've never heard about such possibility before:
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006/06/xcelplus_acquir.html
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Ethanol boom or bust?
Whether Canada's answer to Kyoto will work is the mystery
Paul Jay
Citizen Special
Saturday, May 27, 2006
Murray Sharp can remember his days working for a farm co-operative in
Chatham, Ont., in 1965, back when corn fetched $4 a bushel and the
promise of a good living for
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Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 15:57:25 +0530
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Subject: [Stoves] Ethanol for rural households
Dear stovers,
I hope you enjoy reading the following on this subject.
I also pulled paper from internet using googleArticle Ethanol production by extractive fermentation M. Minier, G. Goma *Départment de Génie Biochimique et Alimentaire, ERA-CNRS No. 879. INSA, Avenue de Rangueil, F-31077 Toulouse Cédex, France *Correspondence to G. Goma,
I also pulled paper from internet using googleArticle Ethanol production by extractive fermentation M. Minier, G. Goma *Départment de Génie Biochimique et Alimentaire, ERA-CNRS No. 879. INSA, Avenue de Rangueil, F-31077 Toulouse Cédex, France *Correspondence to G. Goma,
On Feb 3, 2006, at 12:58 PM, anna b wrote:
I am curious as to why ethanol has dominated the
recent discussion in main stream media of alternative
fuels. The way I see it biodiesel is already
available as are diesel cars to use it.
Think of the historical difference in cost between
bread
Hi all,
As you will know, glycerin is highly hygroscopic.
Did anyone of you ever try to make 100% ethanol (200 proof) using glycerin ?
Pieter
Netherlands.
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Subject: [Biofuel] ethanol method glycerin ?
Hi all,
As you will know, glycerin is highly hygroscopic.
Did anyone of you ever try to make 100% ethanol (200 proof) using
glycerin ?
Pieter
Netherlands
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Hi all,
As you will know, glycerin is highly hygroscopic.
Did anyone of you ever try to make 100
Can somebody explain me what is Drano ?
Pieter.
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] ethanol method
This is more a warning than a question. But many years ago I
Here in Paraguay absolute alcohol takes place to use in cars with structure
modified mechanics, it is pure ethanol. That is here an advantage. then like
you recommend to make ethoxid?, if it is with KOH, like you to extract 5% of
water that it is generated with the reaction KOH + EtOH..
I will
] ethanol method
Can somebody explain me what is Drano ?
Pieter.
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From: Derick Giorchino [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] ethanol method
This is more a warning than a question
Hello Anthonio, Ken and Keith Iam sure that big company like BASF are trying to make ethoxideIN GLOBAL Market in big scale to sell to ruralpeople (high price too) so that Biod can be easily made with ethoxide( ethanol and NaOH)using patended catalyst, butwe can make in the cites this one as
% ?
The economy of this is depending upon your possibilities of recover the
excess ethanol.
Good luck to you
AGERATEC AB
Jan Warnqvist
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From: Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 4:55 AM
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On Jan 26, 2006, at 2:29 AM, pan ruti wrote:
I am sure that big company like BASF are trying to
make ethoxide IN GLOBAL Market in big scale to sell
to rural people (high price too) so that Biod can be
easily made with ethoxide( ethanol and NaOH).
If you started with pure sodium
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] ethanol method
On Jan 25, 2006, at 11:00 AM, Blas Antonio Guanes wrote:
the problem is that, methanol costs 4 $ and pure ethanol
for car costs 0.52 $, NaOH is gotten in any
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