Found a link comparing -- ethanol to gasoline relationship.
Includes E-85, compression ratio, mpg, emissions, supercharger
Also a through Properties of Fuels including:
gasoline, diesel fuel, methanol, ethanol, MTBE, propane, CNG, hydrogen.
FYI-
Octane number:
iso-octane = 100
heptane = 0
ethanol = 113
kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
05/01/2002 05:30 PM
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To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
cc: (bcc: Shaen Rooney/APCP/DEQ/MODNR)
Subject:RE: [biofuel] Is it now time to talk to
Something that others on this list have mentioned
about net energy of ethanol.
Didn't notice a emphasis on humanure, methane, fertilizer,
insecticides, herbicides or other. plastic ides (sp?).
From this site:
Northwest Iowa Community College (NWICC)
Sheldon, Iowa
Ethanol - As A
steve spence wrote:
Gasoline is ~118,000 BTU/gallon
Diesel is ~135,000 BTU/gallon
Ethanol is ~80,000 BTU/gallon
BioDiesel is ~117,000 BTU/gallon
this, btw, is very interesting. take the time to go through it all.
They changed the way of measuring octane rating.
Ethyl alcohol was 100 under the old system. Probably a higher number under
the new system.
Optimum compression is just before it detonates.
Race cars ran 13.5 to 1 with alcohol. The more you put your foot in
something the hotter it gets. If racers
Hello George
Good points you make. The company's called Methanex. Here's some background:
http://ens-news.com/ens/sep2001/2001L-09-07-09.html
NAFTA used to challenge environmental laws - September 7, 2001
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20011015c=1s=greider
The Right and US Trade Law:
Hi Jesse
I'm in Chapter one of Seven Sister, the book about the oil companies. It
is riveting! Finally the real history of how far the government is up big
oil's smoke stack.
Indeed yes. It was a pity leaving out the earlier chapters with what
I've been sending the list, it's all a real
Yeah. Cost me $11 but it is worth it.
Jess
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From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent:
What I've learned is US corn (ethanol)
and soybean (biodiesel) are net gain fuel producers.
The US has a excess crop and few nations buying.
US gov't corn/soybean subsidy payments are much lower
then US gov't petroleum subsidy payments.
US gov't deficits are largely do to importing
Hello Keith and everybody
I read the links you sent, it kinda leaves a man speechless.
Wouldn't you think that California could counter sue Methanex for the cost of
cleaning up the pollution and for endangering human lives. Couldn't Menthanex
be held accountable for what it's chemical did to
Methanex's chemical by itself did nothing to the environment. MTBE does
not separate itself from gasoline and selectively leak from the tank.
Although MTBE is a health risk, it is not by far the most toxic component
of gasoline.
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04/30/2002 03:45 PM
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Yes, and we in Canada should do the same to Ethyl, eh?
They set the precedent that will now serve Methanex.
See: http://www.globalpolicy.org/socecon/envronmt/ethyl.htm
Edward Beggs, BES, MSc
www.biofuels.ca
on 4/30/02 1:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hello Keith
Gasoline is ~118,000 BTU/gallon
Diesel is ~135,000 BTU/gallon
Ethanol is ~80,000 BTU/gallon
BioDiesel is ~117,000 BTU/gallon
this, btw, is very interesting. take the time to go through it all.
http://www.tc.gc.ca/envaffairs/climate/doc_converti/Etoh/ETOH-FNL-RPTAug30-1
999.htm
Yes, and we in Canada should do the same to Ethyl, eh?
They set the precedent that will now serve Methanex.
See: http://www.globalpolicy.org/socecon/envronmt/ethyl.htm
Edward Beggs, BES, MSc
www.biofuels.ca
How about Gerber?
... Chiefly because of this false advertising, according to
Mr Beggs
I read your link and noticed that it was dated April 1997. In the article it
said that the lawyers for Ethyl thought the lawsuit would be over by year's
end. Is this lawsuit over yet and if so, how did this end?
George
Neoteric Biofuels Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, and
Dayton thinks America is ready for a biofuels boom, since the bill
also contains his idea for a new biodiesel tax credit of up to $1 a
gallon.
The alternative is to do nothing, to make no change, Dayton said.
http://www.twincities.com/mld/pioneerpress/news/local/3131380.htm
or simply tax
Arguments against US corn and soybean biofuel seems
outlandish IF it boosts bushel price due to increased
demand thus lowering US gov't subsidize payments
helping to balance US deficits
and
I would think the savings might provide synergy for
invested interest in further development
I heard sometime back that the company that made MTBE was going to sue the
state of California because they had banned MTBE. This was a Canadian company
and that the MTBE ban was in violation of the NAFTA agreement. I would take
this to mean that MTBE is imported from Canada. California
I'm in Chapter one of Seven Sister, the book about the oil companies. It
is riveting! Finally the real history of how far the government is up big
oil's smoke stack.
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