Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator

2001-10-28 Thread steve spence
Message - From: Aidan Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator steve spence wrote: My father runs a hunting lodge off grid. His eventual solution is to use

Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator

2001-10-28 Thread Harmon Seaver
Aidan Wilkins wrote: Hello, When you take into account that you would be getting a large discount for the propane because your order is large. As well as the fact that you require 2 15+ KW generators to keep the place running it would be a close call. You need 2 generators that

Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator

2001-10-28 Thread Aidan Wilkins
It is all very possible if you have the time and the cars. Around here there are very few (if any) diesel rabbit engines (at least that are worth fixing). Also they are no where as efficient as the Deutz he is currently running. As a project most things on here are great ideas, but one

Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator

2001-10-27 Thread steve spence
] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator Well, at least I hope the guy actually costs out this move. Propane freezers? Propane is expensive stuff, can't imagine how all this stuff could be run off propane

Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator

2001-10-27 Thread Aidan Wilkins
Hello, When you take into account that you would be getting a large discount for the propane because your order is large. As well as the fact that you require 2 15+ KW generators to keep the place running it would be a close call. You need 2 generators that can handle the full power

RE: [biofuel] running a house from a generator

2001-10-27 Thread kirk
@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator Hello, When you take into account that you would be getting a large discount for the propane because your order is large. As well as the fact that you require 2 15+ KW generators to keep the place running it would be a close

RE: [biofuel] running a house from a generator

2001-10-26 Thread HORACIO ECHEVERRIA
: [biofuel] running a house from a generator i saw a fridge and freezer in a jade mountain catatlog that was made for sailboats that had a powerful cooler, and eutectic plates (essentially walls witrh liquid that freezes and then takes heat away as it unfreezes) that will stay cold with an hour otr two

RE: [biofuel] running a house from a generator

2001-10-26 Thread HORACIO ECHEVERRIA
: [biofuel] running a house from a generator Hello, My father runs a hunting lodge off grid. His eventual solution is to use is propane hot water tank (currently does), propane fridge, propane stove, and propane freezers. That way you don't need as large of a generator. Just my two cents

Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator

2001-10-26 Thread craig reece
a house from a generator Akos, You wrote: snip The only question for me is the start up procedure of a diesel generator running on SVO. I read about the need of preheated fuel and distributor. As a stationary generator I might manage to keep everything warm until the next

Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator

2001-10-26 Thread jerry dycus
Hi Harmon and All, You can use 12vdc for most things and an inverter for most of the rest with a biofuel ICE gen as backup and for those really heavy things most of us will never use. With the right 12vdc units the difference is about nil. I've lived happily with

Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator

2001-10-26 Thread steve spence
- voicemail/fax We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children. - Original Message - From: Aidan Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator Hello

Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator

2001-10-26 Thread steve spence
Subject: Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator Hello everybody, My idea is like Krik's, to generate electricity on demand. This seems to me somewhat more efficient then charging batteries. The problems are known about low charging rates. But WHY do you want to charge such a huge

Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator

2001-10-26 Thread steve spence
/fax We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children. - Original Message - From: craig reece [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 5:01 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator Akos, You wrote

Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator

2001-10-26 Thread Harmon Seaver
. steve spence wrote: what biofuel will he replace the propane with? methane or woodgas? Steve Spence - Original Message - From: Aidan Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] running a house from

Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator

2001-10-25 Thread yah00akos
from a generator Sensitivity: Confidential 4.6 is not a lot but it should not take 46? to supply 10k per day From: steve spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2001/10/14 Sun AM 09:36:33 EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator 4.6

Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator

2001-10-25 Thread Harmon Seaver
One problem that I found years ago when I lived off grid was dealing with the power needs of a freezer. And refridgerators are about the same. We had a genset with an automatic switch so that it would start whenever we turned on a light in the house. We bought the most efficient chest

Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator

2001-10-25 Thread Mike Webby
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator Hello everybody, My idea is like Krik's, to generate electricity on demand. This seems to me somewhat more

Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator

2001-10-25 Thread Mike Webby
: [biofuel] running a house from a generator Hello everybody, My idea is like Krik's, to generate electricity on demand. This seems to me somewhat more efficient then charging batteries. The problems are known about low charging rates. But WHY do you want to charge such a huge battery bank? It's

Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator

2001-10-25 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc. - E. Beggs
. On the outside. Worked well for the fridge on my boat, at least. Ed B. www.biofuels.ca - Original Message - From: craig reece [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 2:03 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator Real Goods

Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator

2001-10-25 Thread jerry dycus
Hi Ed and All, Running a house 24/7 from a generator su--s. I tried for a few days and the generator drove me crazy. The best way is to run everything from a battery system charged from wind, solar, hydro or for last resort a generator a few hrs a day. Almost all

Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator

2001-10-25 Thread Harmon Seaver
jerry dycus wrote: Hi Ed and All, Running a house 24/7 from a generator su--s. I tried for a few days and the generator drove me crazy. Well, yeah, if you're just talking about a little air-cooled genset. No, you don't want to do that -- not only will it be costly and

RE: [biofuel] running a house from a generator

2001-10-25 Thread Anton Berteaux
: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:02 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator One problem that I found years ago when I lived off grid was dealing with the power needs of a freezer. And refridgerators are about the same. We had a genset

[biofuel] running a house from a generator

2001-10-14 Thread manuel cilia
I have been running my farm house from a generator/battery setup for over a year now and it is great but not with out its problems. The average house energy efficient home will use between 6Kw and 10Kw per day assuming your hot water is gas/solar and your cooking is gas. The problem is with the

Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator

2001-10-14 Thread fhebert8
How many 900 amp batteries does it take to make 50 kw? From: manuel cilia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2001/10/14 Sun PM 05:32:47 EDT To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] running a house from a generator I have been running my farm house from a generator/battery setup for over

Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator

2001-10-14 Thread steve spence
14, 2001 3:32 AM Subject: [biofuel] running a house from a generator I have been running my farm house from a generator/battery setup for over a year now and it is great but not with out its problems. The average house energy efficient home will use between 6Kw and 10Kw per day assuming your

Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator

2001-10-14 Thread steve spence
do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator How many 900 amp batteries does it take

Re: Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator

2001-10-14 Thread fhebert8
4.6 is not a lot but it should not take 46? to supply 10k per day From: steve spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2001/10/14 Sun AM 09:36:33 EDT To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator 4.6 if at 12volts. but that won't supply 50 kWh

Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator

2001-10-14 Thread Harmon Seaver
manuel cilia wrote: You must remember that the batteries take all the load and the generator simply charges the batteries. The power to house is supplied through an inverter. What we're talking about is co-generation, and the engine would run most or all the time (especially in the

Re: Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator

2001-10-14 Thread steve spence
from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 9:48 AM Subject: Re: Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator 4.6 is not a lot but it should not take 46? to supply 10k

RE: Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator

2001-10-14 Thread kirk
: Sunday, October 14, 2001 7:48 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Re: [biofuel] running a house from a generator Sensitivity: Confidential 4.6 is not a lot but it should not take 46? to supply 10k per day From: steve spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2001/10/14 Sun AM 09:36:33 EDT