Hi Fritz,
Thanks for your two posts.I don't think I have anything further to add to
the debate other than to say I feel for yourPalestinian friend. My
approach was too academic and certainly not acceptable in terms of the very real
human crisis which has developed. The current situation is
I threw in the bible quotes, though I don't call myself a Christian. I
think the bible is a fascinating historical and literary artifact, but
not the literal word of
God. There are some interesting thoughts contained within, tho'
The quotes I mentioned were basically judge not, lest ye be
Nice.
... And anyone who believes in God and the Last Day
should say what is good or keep quiet.
Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 73, Number 47.
(... though there's another side to that...)
You might enjoy this, about the Spanish Arabs, by the estimable Dr
Wrench, always a good read:
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Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 11:11 PM
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Hey guys,
It's a war; dirty, messy, cruel, inhuman and
unnecessary - unless you happen to be a Palestinian yearning for your land
back or an Israeli who's been threatened
Once again I'm much in agreement with Bill Blum. He seems to get
inundated by a lot of the arguments that happen here too. (Poor guy.)
I think we've had all this stuff now that he debunks, and more, not
for the first time, and it's tiresome. Please see next. Thankyou.
Keith Addison
Journey to
This seems to match my thoughts as well. I have held back because I feel I
cannot take sides in this conflict. I really feel for the Palestinians. I
also really feel for the minority of Israelis who would like peace with the
Arab states.
I hope for all our sakes that a peaceful resolution is
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Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 2:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Check your Beliefs
Hi Bob
You say:
... The reason for starting from the moment when UNO accepted Israel
as a member (in other words as a legally constituted legitimate
state) was in my view the only possible point
or is it?
Fritz
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Good on ya Bobit seems that the human race is most comfortable at attempting to wipe itself out!!Mother Nature RulesLeoBob Molloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, It's a war; dirty, messy, cruel, inhuman andunnecessary - unless you happen to be a Palestinian yearning for your
oblem in our society at the very most we are
"sarcastic" the suffering of these people does not concern us to much after
all its not hurting us directly or is it?
Fritz
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From: Bob Molloy
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Sent: Thursday, July 20,
20, 2006 11:11 PM
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Hey guys,
It's a war; dirty, messy, cruel, inhuman and
unnecessary - unless you happen to be a Palestinian yearning for
your land
back or an Israeli who's been threatened with annihilation
Up until the 2nd WW there were as many if not more anti-semitic acts in
the US than Europe.
Zeke Yewdall wrote:
Actually, it seems to me that the US and Europe created Israel because
we felt bad about the holocaust, but not enough to actually want to
stop their anti-semitism so they
Bob;
Your comments are surely offensive and ill considered. Move back onto
their own territory? Pray tell where is that? Parachuting displaced Jews
into the area we call Israel was the first mistake made by the US and
Brittain IMHO and we have been living with the fallout ever since.
Joe,
I think Bob was being sarcastic - read his post again.
Joe Street wrote:
Bob;
Your comments are surely offensive and ill considered. Move back onto
their own territory? Pray tell where is that? Parachuting displaced Jews
into the area we call Israel was the first mistake made by the US
Not to mention the unecessary use of two atomic bombs on the Japanese.
Americans are the only ones ever to massacre human beings with nuclear
weapons and yet they deem themselves to be the ones worthy of having
them.huh?
Joe
Hakan Falk wrote:
Bob,
I forgot about your ethnic forebears
Uh.oh :$
Maybe you're right. Sorry Bob. I love sarcasm but I guess I missed it.
Need a coffeelol
Joe
Mike Weaver wrote:
Joe,
I think Bob was being sarcastic - read his post again.
Joe Street wrote:
Bob;
Your comments are surely offensive and ill considered. Move back onto
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To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 4:39 PM
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Bob,
I have a lot to do and have been silent for a
while, but this I have to comment.
It was clearly under the belt and very
Hey guys,
It's a war; dirty, messy, cruel, inhuman and
unnecessary - unless you happen to be a Palestinian yearning for your land
back or an Israeli who's been threatened with annihilation since birth. It's
also a war that's been going on since mankind began. It's about land and
: Thursday, July 20, 2006 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Check Your Beliefs
Hey guys,
It's a war; dirty, messy, cruel, inhuman and
unnecessary - unless you happen to be a Palestinian yearning for your land
back or an Israeli who's been threatened with annihilation since birth
Yo Fritz,
Yeah, right on Fritz. And just to prove it your
ethnic forebears killed offsix million of these bloody Jews only to have
the rest of usdumbwesterners stop them just before they'd finished
the job. Now it's up to the poor Palestinians with only suicide bombers and
Katushya rockets
Actually, it seems to me that the US and Europe created Israel because we felt bad about the holocaust, but not enough to actually want to stop their anti-semitism so they found a place where the Jew's could have a homeland, without inconveniencing any Europeans. It makes us feel better about
On 7/19/06, Bob Molloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yo Fritz,
Yeah, right on Fritz. And just to prove it your
ethnic forebears killed offsix million of these bloody Jews only to have
the rest of usdumbwesterners stop them just before they'd finished
the job. There have been many atrocities
Bob,
i bett you havent wread the report of www.btselem.org
you would not talk such rhubbish!
Fritz
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From:
Bob Molloy
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 6:52
PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Check Your
Beliefs
Hello Bob
I think you should check your beliefs.
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2921
'Because This Is the Middle East'
http://snipurl.com/pg9x
Re: [biofuel] Re: Oil and Israel
3 Jun 2004
Keith
Yo Fritz,
Yeah, right on Fritz. And just to prove it your ethnic forebears
killed off six
Bob,
I forgot about your ethnic forebears massacres of
the native American population. In numbers it is also comparable.
Bob,
I have a lot to do and have been silent for a
while, but this I have to comment.
It was clearly under the belt and very
insensitive and outright dumb, especially
Bob,
I have a lot to do and have been silent for a
while, but this I have to comment.
It was clearly under the belt and very
insensitive and outright dumb, especially form an
American. US do have their own racism and the
internment of Americans with Japanese decent
during WWII is nothing
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