Re: [Biofuel] Sunshine to Petrol

2007-12-14 Thread keith
Hi Alan In fact, I'd say we probably agree more than we disagree, and likely much more. I'm sure of that. :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh-huh Allan However many people it might be, many of them would probably say as you do, No problem, we can do both things at the same time, plenty of

Re: [Biofuel] Sunshine to Petrol

2007-12-13 Thread Alan Petrillo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh-huh Allan However many people it might be, many of them would probably say as you do, No problem, we can do both things at the same time, plenty of brains to go round and so on. But I doubt it'd be more than just lip service, they don't really see it that way,

Re: [Biofuel] Sunshine to Petrol

2007-12-13 Thread Alan Petrillo
Chris Burck wrote: oops, you're right, i didn't represent that entirely accurately. thanks for pointing that out. my web correspondence is all via phone these days, and w/o a proper keyboard my thoughts sometimes get unintentionally compressed. I hate it when that happens. :-) but in

Re: [Biofuel] Sunshine to Petrol

2007-12-12 Thread keith
Uh-huh Allan However many people it might be, many of them would probably say as you do, No problem, we can do both things at the same time, plenty of brains to go round and so on. But I doubt it'd be more than just lip service, they don't really see it that way, and if there is a Mars trip it

Re: [Biofuel] Sunshine to Petrol

2007-12-12 Thread Chip Mefford
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh-huh Allan community, which is a hotbed of the Clarkian view. This past July I went to the Robert A. Heinlein Centennial, YOu were at the Heinlein Centennial? Man, wish I'd have known! I'd have gone in that case. Friend of mine was present. At some of the bofs,

Re: [Biofuel] Sunshine to Petrol

2007-12-12 Thread Chris Burck
oops, you're right, i didn't represent that entirely accurately. thanks for pointing that out. my web correspondence is all via phone these days, and w/o a proper keyboard my thoughts sometimes get unintentionally compressed. but in effect, charging an ev would be direct use of the solar as

Re: [Biofuel] Sunshine to Petrol

2007-12-11 Thread keith
Hello Alan and all but, supposing it were the best approach available, that still only matters to those who share your clarke-ian view of the importance of stepping beyond the cradle. Granted, but I suspect you'll find there are a lot of us. Notably, Peter Diamandis, who's stated goal is to

Re: [Biofuel] Sunshine to Petrol

2007-12-11 Thread Alan Petrillo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Alan and all Hello, Keith. but, supposing it were the best approach available, that still only matters to those who share your clarke-ian view of the importance of stepping beyond the cradle. Granted, but I suspect you'll find there are a lot of us.

Re: [Biofuel] Sunshine to Petrol

2007-12-10 Thread Alan Petrillo
Thomas Kelly wrote: I don't know if the process solves one problem only to cause others, as is so often the case, but I would like for Sandia Laboratories (a subsidary of Lockheed and funded, in part, by the US Dept of Energy) to spend more of its budget on Energy Research (including

Re: [Biofuel] Sunshine to Petrol

2007-12-10 Thread Alan Petrillo
Chris Burck wrote: that a technical challenge might be interesting does not justify pursuing it. Why not? Much of the technology we have today came about simply because someone decided to pursue a technical challenge, and it wound up turning into a product. this project is being funded

Re: [Biofuel] Sunshine to Petrol

2007-12-09 Thread Alan Petrillo
Chris Burck wrote: omg, what a load of crap. strange, all the critics who condemn bio-d and ethanol for allegedly low or negative net energy, where are their voices now? Well, actually, since the whole process is intended to be solar powered, energy negativity isn't as important. and to

Re: [Biofuel] Sunshine to Petrol

2007-12-09 Thread Thomas Kelly
Alan, At a time when some are considering capturing CO2 and storing it somewhere (carbon sequestration), it would be nice if it could be converted into something useful. With increasing demand coupled with decreasing supplies of liquid fuel, it would be doubly nice if the captured CO2

Re: [Biofuel] Sunshine to Petrol

2007-12-09 Thread Chris Burck
that a technical challenge might be interesting does not justify pursuing it. this project is being funded for no reason other than to get yet more taxpayer dollars to a gigantic corporation whose primary product is death, so that it can explore a method which, if marketed correctly, might prop

Re: [Biofuel] Sunshine to Petrol

2007-12-09 Thread Richard Littrell
I agree with Thomas and Alan. Whatever else Sandia is into (and they are a national laboratory so they have done a lot of defense work) the investigations of alternative energy have been worth while. The solar power device based on a sterling engine is proving to be more efficient than

Re: [Biofuel] Sunshine to Petrol

2007-12-08 Thread Chris Burck
omg, what a load of crap. strange, all the critics who condemn bio-d and ethanol for allegedly low or negative net energy, where are their voices now? and to think my tax dollars are being wasted on this. . . . ___ Biofuel mailing list