, for a few weeks.
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From: Joe Street
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerin as an Emulsifier (was GlycerineSettling Time)
Hi Tom;
If the answers to questions 2 and 3 are yes then it would
On Friday 8/10, I noted that:
II. Glycerin Cocktail: Time to Separate
(wash test)
good quality BD + water + glycerin cocktail2 hours*
poor quality BD + water + glycerin cocktail2 hours*
It almost 2 days for the good quality BD to
Hi Tom;
If the answers to questions 2 and 3 are yes then it would explain a
lot. Then the anwer to question one could be that although the BD did
not pass the QT if it was settled long enough that there is no glycerol
it would be consistent with the emergent theory. No?
Joe
Thomas Kelly
Thanks a lot Tom for all that work in a short time. You have really
shed some light on this discussion. Jumping to your questions at the
end, it seems clear then that Jan and Andres were right on and it must
be the soap and mono-diglycerides etc rather than the glycerine itself
which is the
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From: TLC Orchids and Such [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 10:08 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] glycerin blocks
Can you make glycerin blocks from non gelling glycerin?
I have about 20 gallons of liquid glycerin and about 5 Gal. that
Jeremy,
Can you make glycerin blocks from non gelling glycerin?
I have about 20 gallons of liquid glycerin and about 5 Gal. that gelled.
Jeremy
Pure glycerol will melt somewhere around 20C I believe. However, if you have
any impurites (espically Methanol) then it will stay in a liquid state
for the reply
Jeremy
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Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 10:55 AM
Subject: re: [Biofuel] glycerin blocks
Jeremy,
Can you make glycerin blocks from non gelling glycerin?
I have about 20 gallons of liquid glycerin
dear keith
your abstract massage
It was a forwarded message.
is interesting
what do you meant by electricity produced by
digestion? is it biogas production by using glycerin?
Dr.Paulraj
It seems clear enough:
Forwarded message from a Journey to Forever reader.
Best wishes
Keith
can some glycerin be added to new oil to make a soap?
Farmer Paul
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Glycerol is an alcohol. Fats/oils are required to make soap.
Todd Swearingen
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Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerin soap making
can some glycerin be added
Paul,
Do you mean glycerin or the glycerin layer as there is a big difference?
Andy
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can some glycerin be added to new oil to make a soap?
Farmer Paul
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be used to make soap.
Glycerol is an alcohol. Fats/oils are required to make soap.
Todd Swearingen
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerin soap making
: [Biofuel] Glycerin soap making
- Original Message -
From: Legal Eagle
G'day JD;
Using a simple to make condenser. There is an example at the bottom of
the
5
gallon processor at JtF
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor5.html . I have just
finished
one of these and am
- Original Message -
From: Legal Eagle
G'day JD;
Using a simple to make condenser. There is an example at the bottom of the
5
gallon processor at JtF
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor5.html . I have just
finished
one of these and am hooking it up to a pressure cooker.
You don't lose anything as you leave it in there on purpose, it adds to the
combustability of the glycerine log.
Luc
-Or you could just recover the alcohol before burning.
Andy
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If you have a sealed container with a vent line, source of hot water
(above 75C) and cold water - yes. Run the hot water around the sealed
container or put the sealed container in bath of hot water. This will
boil off the MeOH - add hot water as needed. The vapors will travel
out the vent.
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From: JD2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerin soap making
By evaporation...Is there an easy, non-expensive way of doing this using
standard eqipment that could be purchased anywhere
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From: Andrew Cunningham
-Or you could just recover the alcohol before burning.
Andy
By evaporation...Is there an easy, non-expensive way of doing this using
standard eqipment that could be purchased anywhere in the world (i.e. the
UK)?
JD2005
Tracy,
I am currently taking classes towards a Masters in Health Product
Regulation. I have spent a lot of time with various FDA regulations
and the way I would interpret most is that it has to more than 50%
of the final product. Therefore you could take pure soap and mix 49%
dirt into it and
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From: JD2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerin soap making
Thank you for this thread. It is one of the best threads at the moment
because it is constructive.
When you make boifuel
Thank you for this thread. It is one of the best threads at the moment
because it is constructive.
When you make boifuel you are left with alot of glycerin we all know that.
What we don't know is what this glycerin can be utilised for.
Also if the glycerin is from a wvo reaction to make rem
Ok Thanks,
The burning idea with the milk cartons looks really good to us here. We're
burning wood and stuff on an old oxfordshire range here at the moment.I
wouldn't put one on untill we'd got a really hot fire though because of the
poison fumes it can cause.Also you stand stand to
No.
First, you would need to find to incorporate an emuslifying agent to get the
glycerol to mix with the oil.
Second, you would also be adding a water fraction unless you distilled it
out first. (The presumption is being made that you are speaking of
glycerol/ffa separation as discussed at
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Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] glycerin buyers?
How does one get rid of the glycerol from bio-diesel production?,
especially in larger quantities...is it more cost effective and
environmentally responsible to invest in glycerol processing
How does one get rid of the glycerol from bio-diesel production?,
especially in larger quantities...is it more cost effective and
environmentally responsible to invest in glycerol processing equipment
so one doesn't have to discard the entire mixture?
Kim
Sac, CA
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How much is the commercial value of glycerine
anyhow?
Mark, England
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Is there anyone in Western Canada that will buy the glycerin I get
from my diesel?
Brent
Sask. Canada
You'll be very lucky to sell it in the raw form. It's not just
glycerine, as Todd already explained to you:
http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?view=24684list=BIOFUEL
If you separate it
The glycerin layer is not just glycerin, nor is it primarily glycerin. The
rule of thumb is ~79 mililiters of glycerin for every liter of feedstock.
This actually makes the glycerin layer more of a soap layer than
anything else, at least if you name something by its highest constituent
volume or
Hi
can anybody tell me wether glycerin made from the Jatropha
Carcus(Physic nut) is Toxic or not. I want to use Jatropha oil for making
biodiesel. I want to know wether glycerin obtained from this process has the
same market value as glycerin produced from other oils. Information on
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Get rid of the methanol and it makes great hand cleaner/de greaser
David
At 07:37 PM 30/05/2002 +0100, you wrote:
I reply to:
I am a member of this group since 2000, but I had no
quastion until now. I have a big problem what to do
with
HYPERLINK
http://www.herbalhut.com/mfrs/hh_raw_materials.asphttp://www.herbalhut.com
/mfrs/hh_raw_materials.aspÊsells it for $46.96 a gallon wholesale
Ê
Ê
Sell it as hand lotion? Glycerin is sold in the states as Corn Husker's
Lotion.
Need some 1/2 pint bottles and a bottling machine.
It has
Thanks Steve for the info.
Barryt
- Original Message -
From: steve spence
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] glycerin distillaton
An older unit of pressure is the Torr ( 1 Torr = 1 mmHg ). One atmosphere is
ca. 760
Thanks Ray
Barryt
- Original Message -
From: Ray Hough
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 5:00 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [biofuel] glycerin distillaton
Torr is about the same as mm. of Hg pressure. 760 is one atmosphere. If you
set up a simple still
etc? I haven't got a clue what that means.
Barryt
- Original Message -
From: Martin Klingensmith
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] glycerin distillaton
760 torr, 290 degrees C
20 torr, 182 degrees C
.0025 torr, 50
: Sunday, June 17, 2001 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] glycerin distillaton
Martin,
What is 760 torr etc? I haven't got a clue what that means.
Barryt
- Original Message -
From: Martin Klingensmith
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 10:22 PM
Thanks Marc for your contribution with this oldtimer.
If you can scan the relevant pages, I«ll appreciate it very much.
Regards.
Ricardo Tournier
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Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 12:36 AM
Subject:
Thanks Marc for your contribution with this oldtimer.
If you can scan the relevant pages, I«ll appreciate it very much.
Regards.
Ricardo Tournier
Yes, indeed, thankyou Marc. If we could nail down the purifying and
impurities issues, the whole process could be almost self-contained,
the holy
By the way, Ken Provost, if you're reading this, salt (sodium
chloride) is cheap and obtainable enough, and easy to dry. Any idea
how much water a pound/kilo of salt would absorb?
I read EVERYTHING :-)! Thx for reminding me -- I actually bought a big
box of rock salt to play with, and it's
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To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 1:23 PM
Subject: RE: [biofuel] Glycerin and absolute alcohol
By the way, Ken Provost, if you're reading this, salt (sodium
chloride) is cheap and obtainable enough, and easy to dry. Any idea
how much water a pound/kilo of salt would
in perspective, eh?
Ricardo.
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From: Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 1:23 PM
Subject: RE: [biofuel] Glycerin and absolute alcohol
By the way, Ken Provost, if you're reading this, salt (sodium
chloride) is cheap
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To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 6:31 PM
Subject: RE: [biofuel] Glycerin and absolute alcohol
Hi Ricardo, Ken, Marc and all
As far as I know, sodium chloride cristals are naturaly anhidrous. It
seems
to me that this will not work.
Sodium chloride is very hygroscopic
I would also like to know this.
-Tim Z
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Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Glycerin and absolute alcohol
Could someone help me? I am new to all of this. I want to make
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I would also like to know this.
-Tim Z
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Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 7:54 PM
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Could someone help me? I am new to all of this. I want
CAWKI?
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Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] glycerin and red worms
Was the glycerol
CAWKI?
Good heavens, Ed - Civilisation As We Know It. Demise generally dated
circa 1970. g
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Stop the madness!! W.O.R.M.S. (World Organisation for the Rights of
Muckeating Species) strongly objects to this sort of testing!
;-)
Ed B.
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Was the glycerol free from methanol.
If not, the worms probably died from alcohol poisoning.
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Hi David C,
Before racing out and spending all your money try your
local large city library. After all this is what you pay your taxes and
rates for. Also try your local University, Chemistry, and Engineering school
libraries. Most loan books on payment of a small fee. America
collection!
David Cruse
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Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 12:56 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] glycerin
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Terry wrote:
Was the glycerol free from methanol.
If not, the worms probably died from alcohol poisoning.
Yes, I used pharmaceutical-grade glycerine rather than biod WVO
gunge, in the interests of reducing variables. Haven't got any biod
stuff right now anyway (soon).
Best
Keith Addison
Stop the madness!! W.O.R.M.S. (World Organisation for the Rights of
Muckeating Species) strongly objects to this sort of testing!
;-)
Ed B.
Sue if you will, see if I care! They were all volunteers, doing their
bit for science, for the world, for the future of CAWKI, and for me.
They signed
Sue if you will, see if I care! They were all volunteers, doing their
bit for science, for the world, for the future of CAWKI, and for me.
They signed affidavits before willingly stepping into the fray, one
and all. Okay, so I used a whip, but there were no witnesses.
Keith Addison
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Sue if you will, see if I care! They were all volunteers, doing their
bit for science, for the world, for the future of CAWKI, and for me.
They signed affidavits before willingly stepping into the fray, one
and all. Okay, so I used a whip, but there were no witnesses.
Keith Addison
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Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] glycerin
Nope sorry changed my mind. No seriously will try and remember. Books are
held by Auckland Public Library (40 km away) so will try to look next time
I
go into the city if it is open.
B.r., David
David,
Normally go into the city once or twice a week anyway to get
supplies and other things so no problem.
B.r., David
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Hi David R.
Thanks again.
David Cruse
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From: David Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] glycerin
David,
Normally go into the city once or twice a week anyway to get
supplies
Hi David C,
Went to town this afternoon and dug out the books on
Glyceryn. Couldnt find one of the ones I wanted but found the other which is
excellent and I would recommend, Dug out 4 books, 2 on Glycerine, and 2 on
Fatty acids or Fatty Alcohols, which are related topics,
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Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 5:05 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] glycerin
Hi David C,
Went to town this afternoon and dug out the books on
Glyceryn. Couldnt find one of the ones I wanted but found the other which
is
excellent and I
Hey David R.
If that message was directed at me (David C.)
That would be kind indeed !
David Cruse
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From: David Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] glycerin
Hi David
recovery.
Thanks again for the help.
David Cruse
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To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] glycerin
I want to know about
the vacuum/ heat extraction method in more
David,
Yes. If I dont get back to you in a week give me a reminder. Both
books were good but one was excellent.
B.r., David
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From: david e cruse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] glycerin
Hi David R.
Thank you , I will remind you later on.
Thanks again,
David Cruse
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From: David Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] glycerin
David,
Yes. If I dont get back
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Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] glycerin
Soap production sounds a little more promising.
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From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: David Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] glycerin
David,
Unfortunately the only way to purify it properly and get an
absolutely pure product is with distillation. Commercial processors
Does anyone know a process that can be
used to purify the glycerin produced in the
biodiesel reaction into a pure or high grade
glycerol ? High grade glycerol has a much
better market value than the crude ( 80-88% )
glycerin you get with standard
Soap production sounds a little more promising.
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David Cruse
...
David,
Here's the skinny on glycerin.
Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
I think that our local treatment plant just wants to know when, how much
per flushing, and what is it (glycerine in this case). I don't think
that it qualifies as toxic waste just waste.
geoff
anton and federica wrote:
I know i should look in the website index, but i have never been able
Does anyone have any references on how to refine a crude glycerine
mix in order to obtain pure glycerine? How do industrial producers do
this?
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Well, first things first:
glyc can't be broken down to glucose since it has fewer C atoms.
Second:
glyc is a flat chain of three C atoms, glucose is a ring compound of five
C atoms and one O.
So glucose is a heterogeneous ring compound. There is a process
called glycerolysys in bio-reactions -
not aware of how this could be done.
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