[Biofuel] FYI - US commerical production of diesel motorcycle to start.
HDT USA to start commercial production of diesel fuel motorcycles in March 2006. http://www.m1030.com/models.htm ( click on "D650A1Bulldog" ) "With a world class rolling chassis, the proven performance and durability of the M1030M1 Military Motorcycle engine, the spectacular patriotic graphics, and over 102 mpg, the Diesel fueled D650A1Bulldog is a true "triple threat", winner for sport touring, on/off road riding, and everyday commuting. Production is scheduled for March of 2006.:" I am waiting for more information, and will pass it on when I receive it. Greg H. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] pH question
Dear Jan, If I understand correctly somethingcan be wrong with the pH measurementswhich Andrew made and reported. The pH can only be measured in an aqueous system and not in an oil/fatty phase. It has no sense to put the probe in the oil phase to measure pH. Remember that pH only applies were the water equilibrium constant works. Instead of measuring through an pH electrode it is more convenient and accurate to measure the total acidity of the oil phasewhich is made throug a titration with NaOH and reported as "acid value" Andres Secco - Original Message - From: Jan Warnqvist To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 3:30 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] pH question Hello Andrew, not to worry, that pH value is quite in order. When you judge the result of a correctly performed pH determination, you should be aware of that the pH scale is logaritmic. Example: pH 7 means that the amounts of H3O( acidic)and OH (hydroxide)ions are the same amounts, that is 10 powered by - 7 moles per dm3 = 0,001 moles/dm3. If you have pH 6, this means that the H3O ions are ten times more than the OH ions, H3O= 10 powered by -6 moles/dm3 = 0,01, and the OH ions are 10 powered by -8 moles/dm3 = 0,0001 moles/dm3.For pH 2 you have a concentration for the H3O ions of 10 powered by -2 = 0.01 moles/dm3 and the corresponding value for OH is 10 powered by -12 = 0,0001 moles/dm3. This means thatif apH determination drops from pH 1 to pH 2, much more has actually happend than a drop from pH 6 to pH 7. The reason for pH 6 on biodiesel could be that there is a content of free fatty acids or other acidic remains in the biodiesel. Is this right, Bob ? Jan Warnqvist - Original Message - From: Andrew Leven To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 2:09 AM Subject: [Biofuel] pH question Hello, I'vemade and washed 4 test batches from different wvo oil sources andhave comeup with some quite clear, light amber colored BD but it all seems to test out at pH 6 + or -. This seems a bit low. Any ideas about what would cause a consistent low reading like this? Andrew Leven ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Visita www.tutopia.com y comienza a navegar ms rpido en Internet. Tutopia es Internet para todos. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] market gardens
Greetings, I know I just disappeared from this list for a time, I have had some good luck, but it is killing me. My friend was planning on constructing a restaurant in the building she bought on the piece of property next to her home. She planned on doing this after her husband retired, next year. She wanted me to grow all her vegetables for her garden so she would have superior food. Nice idea that fit well with my schedule. Instead, he retire the beginning of February and they bought a restaurant in town. They take over management on March1. They want veggies this year. I am just starting to put my raised beds in. I do have to use raised beds as we get downpours that will cover my land with 6inches of water, as a regular happening. I am in Texas, about 125 miles from the Gulf, somewhere NNW of Houston. I do have to worry about tropical storms and hurricanes, so the raised beds have to be. There are times I hate raised beds, especially in a drought, but when the rain does arrive, it tends to do so, all at once. I have told my friend that I should be able to provide specialty produce this year, but I am not dependable for all her produce. I have never done market gardening before. I am not doing intensive gardening as I have that planting closely does not give me good results. My humidity is so high, I get disease. So I will be spreading the gardens out. I am used to having to water my garden once or twice a day in the heat of the summer. I do plan on using mulch, but I am undecided on what to use. I do have lots of old hay, but I have found that old hay causes weeds. This is not good horse quality hay, but the garbage cleaned off fields that are just being put back into use. Great for my compost pile, but I have reservation about putting it on my garden. I do not like the idea of using wood chips, which I never have enough of anyway. I do like them for the floor of my greenhouse and for paths. I think I may have to drive about 70 miles and buy some straw. This is the first year I planned on growing my own cereal crops. I would have started in the fall, but my Mother who is 77 was here for a visit for 6 weeks and that delayed many things. I am not complaining, I am not sure that I will get another visit, so I did not spend that time doing more that I had to. While I do make about 1 ton of compost a year, which I do expect to increase, at present I am using about 25 tons a year including my pastures. This year will be higher since I am putting in the beds. I plan on adding cottonseed meal and kelp to the compost, water and let sit one month then plant for the beds. I will be tilling down 7 inches, adding compost then tilling again. I do not plan on ever tiling these beds again. This land has not been broken for over 20 years that I know of. I have been running my sheep in the area this winter, to add a little fertilizer. Most of my seed is from Seeds of Change, is open pollinated, some of it is rare and as much as possible is heirloom. I do plan on at least 10% of the garden being used to save seed for the next year. This is a guesstimate, any help on how much to plan for seed saving is appreciated. I have tried really hard to acquire seed that is appropriate to my climate. Some of the seed was planned for a winter garden and some for summer. I do hope to run the gardens year round, which is not real difficult here. If anyone has any comments or suggestions, I will appreciate them. Bright Blessings, Kim ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] British nannies
HSE advises against home production - Because of these serious health and safety risks, HSE advises against the home manufacture of biodiesel using domestic or other unsuitable facilities and by people who are not trained in handling dangerous substances. Ho-hum (yawn...). Whereas: Safety http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#safe More about methanol http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#moremeth Hazards http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor.html#haz As for quality, actually it's the other way round: Quality http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_vehicle.html#qual1 --- http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/biodiesel.htm HSE - PUBLICATIONS Domestic production of biodiesel - health and safety warning Biodiesel is a relatively new synthetic fuel made from vegetable oils, and its domestic production raises serious health and safety concerns. The information below describes some of the hazards and contains advice from HSE that biodiesel should not be produced at home. Biodiesel is produced commercially and can be bought from some petrol stations. However there are 'recipes' available on the internet for the domestic production of biodiesel. These usually involve mixing methanol with sodium hydroxide (also known as caustic soda or lye), and pouring the resulting mixture into vegetable oil. Such home production raises serious health and safety concerns, as it involves hazardous chemicals and the risk of fire and explosion. Making biodiesel is a potentially hazardous process that should only be carried out in controlled conditions by people with the proper training and experience. At the very least a poorly made product could seriously damage a vehicle engine. Hazardous chemicals The individual chemicals needed for the process are hazardous. Sodium hydroxide is extremely corrosive. It can cause burning to unprotected skin and is particularly damaging to the eyes. Stirring the liquid can often produce a fine mist of liquid droplets. If this mist is inhaled, severe irritation of the respiratory tract and breathlessness can occur. Accidental swallowing can cause major damage to the throat lining and digestive system. Methanol is a toxic chemical. It can enter the body through breathing in the vapour, direct skin contact or by accidental swallowing. It can cause nausea, dizziness and visual disturbances that can result in blindness. Swallowing small quantities could pose a significant health threat to the central nervous system and could also affect other vital organs. It is a cumulative poison and repeated exposure to relatively low concentrations could cause harm in the longer term. Risk of fire and explosion There is a serious risk of fire and explosion because methanol is highly flammable and there are many potential sources of ignition in most homes such as: * normal electrical equipment, for example kitchen appliances, plugs and switches; * open flames, for example gas burners; and * smoking materials. It is also possible that a violent chemical reaction could occur by * making a mistake with the recipe, for example getting the quantities wrong or adding the chemicals in the wrong order; * poor mixing; or * making too much at once. Any of these could result in the mixture splashing or boiling over, causing serious burns. HSE advises against home production Because of these serious health and safety risks, HSE advises against the home manufacture of biodiesel using domestic or other unsuitable facilities and by people who are not trained in handling dangerous substances. Further information * Free leaflet - Safe working with flammable substances (INDG227) PDF [65kb] Basic safety principles when working with flammable liquids (ISBN 0 71761154 X) * Free leaflet - How safe is your workplace? A short guide to the Dangerous Substances and Explosive Atmospheres Regulations (INDG370) PDF [400kb] ISBN 0 7176 2589 3 * Available from HSE Books - The safe use and handling of flammable liquids (HSG140) More detailed guidance on flammable liquids (ISBN 0 7176 0967 7) * Designing and operating safe chemical reaction processes (HSG143) Guidance on chemical reactions (ISBN 0 7176 1051 9, price £12.50) HSE publications are obtainable from HSE Books, telephone 01787 881 165. Further information on general health and safety issues is available from the HSE Infoline telephone 0845 345 0055 . Although HSE's prime concern is with health and safety, we are also obliged to point out that duty must be paid on all vehicle fuel for use by the general public, whatever the origins of the fuel. * Updated 27.09.05 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):
Re: [Biofuel] Adventures in Composting
Hi Fred If I arrange a week in Japan scavenging the junk piles to make America great again would be worth the sweat and the hassle of moving the stuff. :-) Not so fast, you'd have to do your tatemae first, pay yer respects and build your networks. http://www.mynippon.com/RomanceNews0201/story12.htm Honne and tatemae: Japanese behavioral patterns I am trying to avoid the Walmart (Chinese) crap as much as I can. But when it comes down to it I needed one to begin playing out some ideas I have had for scooters and sawmills. But it's usually not crap. Well, I've never been in a Walmart, but this stuff costs about half the going rate or less and it lasts for two years of rough treatment or longer, which can be strong arguments, when it comes down to it. It was nice when made in America meant something. Or when it meant something different maybe. But have Americans themselves really changed that much? It's hard to believe you need other people's junk, especially when you have so much excellent junk of your own. Also hard to believe that you 'Merkins aren't as capable now as you always were, because some of you certainly are. Couldn't American small enterprise make a better YanMar rip-off just as cheap and fair-trade too? Even if it wasn't just as cheap I bet a lot of Americans would buy it anyway. Why not scavenge old Briggs and Stratton engines instead, get them running better and cleaner, on 160 ethanol or something. On the other hand... A motorcycle enthusiast's guide to low speed, miniscule acceleration and about zero power, but fun fun fun :) Riding on Salad Oil / Vegetable Oil / Biodiesel / Diesel / old motoroil / whatever ... Ingredients: one stripped Royal-Enfield Bullet 500 motorcycle, add one 406cc, single cylinder, direct injection Yanmar L100 diesel engine (or chinese clone - Kama KM186, Changfa, etc). http://www.altmann.haan.de/riding_on_salad_oil/default.htm Yanmar air-cooled diesel engines, L-A Series, seven models from 2.5-7.4kW (3.4-10hp) 2Mb pdf: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/yanmar.pdf Best Keith fred On 1/29/06, Keith Addison mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Fred Say Keith, if you ever find too many of those old Yanmar diesels, is there a way to ship them here? All I can find are the Chinese knock off''s. That's what you get for living in such a rich country, WalMart and cheapo Chinese stuff, LOL! Um, sorry. (We also have this problem here with Chinese gear that you probably shouldn't buy but it can be hard not to.) I'm sure there'd be a way to ship old Yanmars there, but it would be difficult. Trouble is I can barely lift a Yanmar diesel engine, it's too heavy, it takes two to carry it and it's still too heavy, you can't carry it far. (Well maybe you could Fred!) Getting the thing out of whatever it's in (usually they're in something) would take both of us, which really ups the ante as far as time is concerned. Right now we could only do that if we absolutely had to have the thing ourselves or all our dominos would fall over. That aside, once having got it, shipping it would mean getting a freight company to come here and collect the Yanmar and then do everything else, which I don't think would be cheap. That's without finding out first how well it works or how long it's likely to run, and you can't get parts there. I saw a lovely old Kubota diesel cultivator the other day, in Kubota's junkyard behind their shop in a town not too far from here. It was in great condition, it was even clean! Much better condition than our Yanmar actually, and very similar, same vintage. I thought of the Yanmar cultivator, and I thought of Robert and his shredder in Canada, and I thought of what I had to do that day, and I left it there. It won't be there now, you have to do it right then, not wait, or it's gone next time. But when I thought of Robert I could only see problems that would cost too much money. Damn. Sorry to be so discouraging. Ask me for something I can carry Fred! I'll be happy to help if I can, though it might take a bit of time. Regards Keith fred On 1/27/06, Keith Addison mailto:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] orgmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Robert Hello everyone! I like what my power shredder does to the organic material around my property, but I HATE operating the thing. It's hard to start, bogs easily and burns an awful lot of fuel for such a small engine . . . I've been wanting to ask ever since. Didn't you forget to say it stinks? I've been grousing at our chainsaws because they use too much fuel and they stink. But they start easily, highly important with pull-start engines, IMHO. Fuel ethanol would solve both the consumption and stink problems but it fails to attract if it's going to be a hassle to start the thing, maybe there are ways to solve that though (not that we have any fuel ethanol yet anyway). Didn't you
[Biofuel] Vegetarianism and biofuels - was Re: Save energy, eat green
I just said this in another message: I'm going to insist that if people want to discuss it all here they're very welcome, but we really don't need the sheer distraction of having to blunder down all the same old blind alleys again for the umpteenth time. Discuss it if you can take things further forward than previous discussions have done rather than backward, contribute something, come up with a new angle or a different aspect. Do your homework first, in other words. This is from a message on 19 Dec 2005: Not only do we have David Pimentel's annual disinfo campaign against ethanol to contend with, this year he found a new friend, Tad Patzek, and they did a duet, in two parts furthermore, attacking not only ethanol but biodiesel too. Arch-shill Denis Avery of the Hudson Institute has now joined the fray. He's been waging a disinfo war against organic farming for years. Many of the green groups, especially the corporate enviros sector (Big Green), swallow Pimentel's anti-ethanol crap, but they fight Avery over organic farming. But they're agreeing with Avery over biofuels, from George Monbiot a few months ago on. Some of the myths of vegetarianism play right into their hands. Especially if it's true that some or many vegetarians, whatever they might say, really do it as alleged because veggies don't scream and try to escape when you kill them, ie for emotional reasons. To which of course they're welcome, but it means they'll be more likely to believe what they want to believe rather than accept unpalatable facts such as that it's not even possible to grow veggies sustainably without raising animals, or that there is no traditional vegetarian farming system and never has been, or not one that survived. But if you know that it's not so easy to fall for the food vs fuel line Pimentel spins. Quite a lot of vegetarians are cultists, and they're suckers for Big Oil shills like David Pimentel and Dennis Avery. The discussions on vegetarianism at the Biofuel list go back a long way, and if all aspects of it are not covered in previous discussions it's sure worth checking anyway. I think this message from Ken Dunn probably brings most of it up to date. http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg58252.html Re: [Biofuel] New question on oil seed crops and ley farming Ken Dunn, 11/28/05 Around that time there were also further discussions on the health aspects. Just after that we had a real exhibition of cult vegetarianism. It had no integrity, it achieved nothing but confusion and distraction, and I think that's where it can stop. This is from a post from me nearly four years ago, 27 Mar 2002: David Pimentel's infamous anti-ethanol reports are much used by vegetarian and vegan activists who're after saving the world by eradicating livestock farming. Pimentel says: With the world population at 5.5 billion, food production is adequate to feed 7 billion people a vegetarian diet, with ideal distribution and no grain fed to livestock. Some people really hate it (and hate me) when I say these things, but there is no sustainable way of raising plants without animals. There is no traditional farming system that doesn't used animals, and never has been. It just doesn't work - soil fertility sooner or later fails, and then everything else fails too. Likewise in nature mixed farming is the rule, plants are always found with animals. God can't do it, and neither can we. But it's no use trying to argue with these people, it's not rational, it's a moral crusade, and if you don't agree, then you're the enemy. This is how a recent such tussle ended: I disagree completely. There is no place for animal cultivation or the use of plant biomass to feed animals instead of people in any responsible plan to alleviate world hunger or promote sustainability. Then came the flames. Well, I just hope somebody will save the world from these people - all the Third World needs is this kind of bent-headed crap. Just to put that Pimentel quote above about population in perspective, there's enough food available to provide at least 4.3 pounds of food per person a day worldwide: two and half pounds of grain, beans and nuts, about a pound of fruits and vegetables, and nearly another pound of meat, milk and eggs - enough to make most people fat. No need to cut the meat. With ideal distribution, Pimentel says, as if it's but a simple matter, whereas in fact it's the whole problem, the only reason people go hungry - an inequitable economic system. These people leapfrog from well-founded criticisms of factory farming and industrial livestock production to a general damnation of animal-based and fossil-fuel-based agriculture, which they say is backed by the evil IMF, just for good measure, in order to promote worldwide vegan vegetarianism as the golden solution for all. My area of interest in environmental activism is providing positive, working alternatives to
Re: [Biofuel] Save energy, eat green
Hello Terry Hi Keith, The methane issue is something to be considered. It has been considered. The list archives gives 194 hits for methane and climate, though that includes methane hydrate and a few other things. Why don't you have a look? Methane gas is 24 times more potent as a green house gas than CO2. Yes. But it comes with a context. How much of each is human-caused (so to speak)? How much of each is new and how much cycled? How much of each gas would not be released but for industrialised agriculture methods? How much is just waste? What if you added all the greenhouse gas costs of the whole process of industrial livestock production (including the feed) and compared it with total greenhouse gas emissions from integrated mixed farms that grow their own inputs and energy and supply local markets? Whether CO2 or CH4 or whatever, I think greenhouse gases that are part of the natural cycle don't need fixing because they're not broken. Anyway I think methane is more complicated than that once it gets into the atmosphere, IIRC it's not only a greenhouse gas. Also in some areas of the planet such as the province of British Columbia, Canada, many good forests are clear cut to supply grazing land for ranchers. Those big evergreen trees they cut down are great carbon sinks. It's also been found that grazing pastures can hold as much carbon as forests do. How much and in which conditions trees and forests are carbon sinks and when they're not is not yet very clear. You previously made the point that more production of grass-fed beef would mean less production of industrialised grain going to feed fewer industrialised cattle, quite right too. Isn't it the land that's currently being wasted and ruined growing industrial grain for factory livestock that should be giving way to ranchers rather than forest land (depending on the forest)? Why isn't that happening? That's probably the best way to restore industrialised farming land, using ley farming methods with grass and grazing livestock rotations. IMHO blaming cows and meat-eaters for the destruction of forests is a little simplistic (I know you didn't quite do that). Landless peasants get blamed in a similar way for destroying forests, and so does biodiesel these days, and both meat and ethanol get blamed for causing world hunger and so on. We need to get it right. We've got it right already, and I'm going to insist that if people want to discuss it all here they're very welcome, but we really don't need the sheer distraction of having to blunder down all the same old blind alleys again for the umpteenth time. Discuss it if you can take things further forward than previous discussions have done rather than backward, contribute something, come up with a new angle or a different aspect. Do your homework first, in other words. People who consume mostly organic, unprocessed fruits, vegetables, whole grains, seeds and nuts are healthier according to many studies done on this including a study done at Harvard University. There are more studies that have found just the opposite. We've had all that out here too a few times. Sally Fallon's website is one of the most reliable sources (see the JtF link below). Harvard is just a label, it might mean something, or it might mean something else. Eg, Sallie Baliunas and Willie Soon of Harvard University are two of the Bushies' foremost climate-change denialists. (Lots about that in the archives too.) The Harvard Center for Risk Analysis (HCRA) is sited at Harvard School of Public Health, but it's just a greenwash industry-front Astroturf group, with rather a lot of damaging spin, lies and cover-ups to answer for. Sorry to say. See eg: http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Harvard_Center_for_Risk_Analysis Harvard Center for Risk Analysis - Disinfopedia Vegetarianism does seem to suit some people's metabolisms, or at least it seems they can take it without damage, but for most probably not. I do agree that small farms are better for the environment than factory farms. They don't really have to be small, as long as they're mixed, integrated farms. Small farms are more efficient though. Eating food that is grown locally by small organic growers is probably the best for the environment. (less food miles) Yes indeed, and for more reasons than food miles (though that's certainly a good reason). But organic farms are not sustainable either unless they're mixed farms with livestock integrated into the farming system. Nor are any farms. This is the bottom line: As yet, I have not found a single group.which was building and maintaining excellent bodies by living entirely on plant foodsIn every instance where groups involved had been long under this teaching, I found evidence of degeneration -- Nutrition and Physical Degeneration, by Weston A. Price, 1939. The source you can't argue with - though you can twist it, distort it and ignore it. Like veggie
Re: [Biofuel] pH question
I have already been critizised for leaving out the sub-understood meaning that the determinations should be carried out in a water phase, since the H30 and OH ions are not detectable any where else. Jan - Original Message - From: A. Secco To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] pH question Dear Jan, If I understand correctly somethingcan be wrong with the pH measurementswhich Andrew made and reported. The pH can only be measured in an aqueous system and not in an oil/fatty phase. It has no sense to put the probe in the oil phase to measure pH. Remember that pH only applies were the water equilibrium constant works. Instead of measuring through an pH electrode it is more convenient and accurate to measure the total acidity of the oil phasewhich is made throug a titration with NaOH and reported as "acid value" Andres Secco - Original Message - From: Jan Warnqvist To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 3:30 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] pH question Hello Andrew, not to worry, that pH value is quite in order. When you judge the result of a correctly performed pH determination, you should be aware of that the pH scale is logaritmic. Example: pH 7 means that the amounts of H3O( acidic)and OH (hydroxide)ions are the same amounts, that is 10 powered by - 7 moles per dm3 = 0,001 moles/dm3. If you have pH 6, this means that the H3O ions are ten times more than the OH ions, H3O= 10 powered by -6 moles/dm3 = 0,01, and the OH ions are 10 powered by -8 moles/dm3 = 0,0001 moles/dm3.For pH 2 you have a concentration for the H3O ions of 10 powered by -2 = 0.01 moles/dm3 and the corresponding value for OH is 10 powered by -12 = 0,0001 moles/dm3. This means thatif apH determination drops from pH 1 to pH 2, much more has actually happend than a drop from pH 6 to pH 7. The reason for pH 6 on biodiesel could be that there is a content of free fatty acids or other acidic remains in the biodiesel. Is this right, Bob ? Jan Warnqvist - Original Message - From: Andrew Leven To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 2:09 AM Subject: [Biofuel] pH question Hello, I'vemade and washed 4 test batches from different wvo oil sources andhave comeup with some quite clear, light amber colored BD but it all seems to test out at pH 6 + or -. This seems a bit low. Any ideas about what would cause a consistent low reading like this? Andrew Leven ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Visita www.tutopia.com y comienza a navegar más rápido en Internet. Tutopia es Internet para todos. ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Adventures in Composting
Hi Keith, I have a strong Scandinavian background and we have our own version of Honne and tatemae. It is much like a poker face and slight smile. With that you can do anything and no one can tell if you are happy or miserable. Hardest in our family was trying to figure out if my father was upset or overjoyed. You could never tell. I have the same characteristic. Walmart is crap and cheap crap at that. The Chinese machine that I purchased is good enough to get the job done but then I feel like I bought it at Walmart.As for American Made... I guess I am just nostalgic for the idea that there was quality with products built here. At that is the illusion. I have several briggs and stratton machines. I plan to jet them and will run them on ethanol. And...I like Yanmar quality. Thanks for the scooter link. Now where did I put that old Triumph frame...fredOn 1/30/06, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi FredIf I arrange a week in Japan scavenging the junk piles to makeAmerica great again would be worth the sweat and the hassle ofmoving the stuff.:-) Not so fast, you'd have to do your tatemae first, pay yer respects and build your networks.http://www.mynippon.com/RomanceNews0201/story12.htmHonne and tatemae: Japanese behavioral patternsI am trying to avoid the Walmart (Chinese) crap as much as I can. But when it comes down to it I needed one to begin playing out someideas I have had for scooters and sawmills.But it's usually not crap. Well, I've never been in a Walmart, butthis stuff costs about half the going rate or less and it lasts for two years of rough treatment or longer, which can be strongarguments, when it comes down to it.It was nice when made in America meant something.Or when it meant something different maybe. But have Americans themselves really changed that much? It's hard to believe you needother people's junk, especially when you have so much excellent junkof your own. Also hard to believe that you 'Merkins aren't as capablenow as you always were, because some of you certainly are. Couldn't American small enterprise make a better YanMar rip-off justas cheap and fair-trade too? Even if it wasn't just as cheap I bet alot of Americans would buy it anyway. Why not scavenge old Briggs and Stratton engines instead, get them running better and cleaner, on 160ethanol or something.On the other hand...A motorcycle enthusiast's guide to low speed, miniscule accelerationand about zero power, but fun fun fun :) Riding on Salad Oil / Vegetable Oil / Biodiesel / Diesel / oldmotoroil / whatever ...Ingredients: one stripped Royal-Enfield Bullet 500 motorcycle, addone 406cc, single cylinder, direct injection Yanmar L100 diesel engine (or chinese clone - Kama KM186, Changfa, etc).http://www.altmann.haan.de/riding_on_salad_oil/default.htmYanmar air-cooled diesel engines, L-A Series, seven models from 2.5-7.4kW (3.4-10hp)2Mb pdf:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/yanmar.pdfBestKeithfred On 1/29/06, Keith Addison mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Fred Say Keith, if you ever find too many of those old Yanmar diesels, is there a way to ship them here?All I can find are the Chinese knock off''s. That's what you get for living in such a rich country, WalMart andcheapo Chinese stuff, LOL! Um, sorry. (We also have this problem herewith Chinese gear that you probably shouldn't buy but it can be hard not to.)I'm sure there'd be a way to ship old Yanmars there, but it would bedifficult. Trouble is I can barely lift a Yanmar diesel engine, it'stoo heavy, it takes two to carry it and it's still too heavy, you can't carry it far. (Well maybe you could Fred!) Getting the thingout of whatever it's in (usually they're in something) would takeboth of us, which really ups the ante as far as time is concerned. Right now we could only do that if we absolutely had to have thething ourselves or all our dominos would fall over. That aside, oncehaving got it, shipping it would mean getting a freight company to come here and collect the Yanmar and then do everything else, which Idon't think would be cheap. That's without finding out first how wellit works or how long it's likely to run, and you can't get parts there.I saw a lovely old Kubota diesel cultivator the other day, inKubota's junkyard behind their shop in a town not too far from here.It was in great condition, it was even clean! Much better condition than our Yanmar actually, and very similar, same vintage. I thoughtof the Yanmar cultivator, and I thought of Robert and his shredder inCanada, and I thought of what I had to do that day, and I left it there. It won't be there now, you have to do it right then, not wait,or it's gone next time. But when I thought of Robert I could only seeproblems that would cost too much money.Damn. Sorry to be so discouraging. Ask me for something I can carry Fred! I'll be happy to help if I can, though it might take a bit oftime.RegardsKeith fred On 1/27/06, Keith Addison mailto:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL
Re: [Biofuel] British nannies
LOL! Thanks Keith. I appreciate your follow up with links to JTF.Risk is all about knowing what your up against. It's a little like knowing that smoking increases your risk of becoming toast while filling up at the gas station.People who cry DANGER! usually lackthe vision, the skills, the creativityand most of all, the ambition to be innovators themselves. They don't appreciate the fact that a good idea can come from anyone - especially those who are unconventional and havean open mind. The majority of US patents are fromhome tinkerers and the country has benefitedfrom it. Companies like Hewlett-Packard and Microsoft started from it (for better or worse). I say US patents only because I don't have any knowledge of the culture for inspiring innovation outside of the US.If people think it's "dangerous" to make
biodiesel at home, I wonder what they'd say about this:"Albert Swank Jr., a civil engineer in Anchorage, Alaska, wants to install a nuclear particle accelerator -- or cyclotron -- in his home. He wants to use it to produce radioactive isotopes that can be used in treating cancer patients. But neighbors and the city council think it's a bad idea."/** * echeck function modified from DHTML email validation script. Courtesy of SmartWebby.com (http://www.smartwebby.com/dhtml/) */ function echeck(str) {var at="@" var dot="." var lat=str.indexOf(at) var lstr=str.length var ldot=str.indexOf(dot) if
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if ((to==null)||(to=="") || (from==null)||(from=="")){ alert("Please enter information into the email address fields."); document.frmSendToFriend.recipient.focus(); return false;} else if ((echeck(from)==false) || (echeck(to)==false)){ return false} else { document.frmSendToFriend.submit();} } } function checkStation() { if ( ((document.frmSendToFriend.callletters.value== "Enter Call Letters") || (document.frmSendToFriend.callletters.value== "")) && (document.frmSendToFriend.localcontact[0].checked == true)) {alert ("Please enter the call letters of your local NPR member station if you would like to receive information from them.");return 1; } else {return 0; } } http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5065032Thanks for the advice HSE. I'll be sure to
file it accordingly.MikeKeith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "HSE advises against home production - Because of these serious health and safety risks, HSE advises against the home manufacture of biodiesel using domestic or other unsuitable facilities and by people who are not trained in handling dangerous substances."Ho-hum (yawn...). Whereas:Safetyhttp://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#safeMore about methanolhttp://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#moremethHazardshttp://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor.html#hazAs for quality, actually it's the other way
Re: [Biofuel] British nannies
People don't have very good sense of how dangerous different risks
are. The most common workplace injury is repetitive stress injuries
from using computers -- so using your home computer is probably more
dangerous than making biodiesel, statistically speaking.
Zeke
On 1/30/06, Michael Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
LOL! Thanks Keith. I appreciate your follow up with links to JTF.
Risk is all about knowing what your up against. It's a little like knowing
that smoking increases your risk of becoming toast while filling up at the
gas station.
People who cry DANGER! usually lack the vision, the skills, the creativity
and most of all, the ambition to be innovators themselves. They don't
appreciate the fact that a good idea can come from anyone - especially those
who are unconventional and have an open mind. The majority of US patents are
from home tinkerers and the country has benefited from it. Companies like
Hewlett-Packard and Microsoft started from it (for better or worse). I say
US patents only because I don't have any knowledge of the culture for
inspiring innovation outside of the US.
If people think it's dangerous to make biodiesel at home, I wonder what
they'd say about this:
Albert Swank Jr., a civil engineer in Anchorage, Alaska, wants to install a
nuclear particle accelerator -- or cyclotron -- in his home. He wants to use
it to produce radioactive isotopes that can be used in treating cancer
patients. But neighbors and the city council think it's a bad idea. /** *
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http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5065032
Thanks for the advice HSE. I'll be sure to file it accordingly.
Mike
Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
HSE advises against home production - Because of these serious
health and safety risks, HSE advises against the home manufacture of
biodiesel using domestic or other unsuitable facilities and by people
who are not trained in handling dangerous substances.
Ho-hum (yawn...). Whereas:
Safety
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#safe
More about methanol
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#moremeth
Hazards
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor.html#haz
As for quality, actually it's the other way round:
Quality
[Biofuel] Corporate Wealth Share Rises for Top-Income Americans
Corporate Wealth Share Rises for Top-Income AmericansArticle Tools Sponsored ByBy DAVID CAY JOHNSTONNew York TimesPublished: January 29, 2006New government data indicate that the concentration ofcorporate wealth among the highest-income Americansgrew significantly in 2003, as a trend that began in1991 accelerated in the first year that President Bushand Congress cut taxes on capital.In 2003 the top 1 percent of households owned 57.5percent of corporate wealth, up from 53.4 percent theyear before, according to a Congressional Budget Officeanalysis of the latest income tax data. The top group'sshare of corporate wealth has grown by half since 1991,when it was 38.7 percent.In 2003, incomes in the top 1 percent of householdsranged from $237,000 to several billion dollars.For every group below the top 1 percent, shares ofcorporate wealth have declined since 1991. Thesedeclines ranged from 12.7 percent for those on the 96thto 99th rungs on the income ladder to 57 percent forthe poorest fifth of Americans, who made less than$16,300 and together owned 0.6 percent of corporatewealth in 2003, down from 1.4 percent in 1991.The analysis did not measure wealth directly. It lookedat taxes on capital gains, dividends, interest andrents. Income from securities owned by retirement plansand endowments was excluded, as were gains fromnoncorporate assets such as personal residences.This technique for measuring wealth has long been usedin standard economic studies, though critics havechallenged that tradition.Among them is Stephen J. Entin, president of theInstitute for Research on the Economics of Taxation inWashington, which favors eliminating most taxes oncapital and teaches that an unintended consequence ofthe corporate income tax is depressed wage rates. Mr.Entin said the report's approach was so flawed that thedata were useless.He said reduced tax rates on long-term capital gainsmay have prompted wealthy investors to sell profitableinvestments. That would show up in tax data asincreased wealth that year, even though the increasemay have built up over decades.Long-term capital gains were taxed at 28 percent until1997, and at 20 percent until 2003, when rates were cutto 15 percent. The top rate on dividends was cut to 15percent from 35 percent that year.The White House said it did not believe that the 2003tax cuts had much influence on wealth shares. It alsosaid that since wealth is transitory for many people, amore important issue is how incomes and wealth areinfluenced by the quality of education."We want to lift all incomes and wealth," said TrentDuffy, a White House spokesman. "We are starting to seethat the income gap is largely an education gap.""The president thinks we need to close the income gap,and he has talked about ways in which we can do that,"especially through education, Mr. Duffy said.The data showing increased concentration of corporatewealth were posted last month on the CongressionalBudget Office Web site. Isaac Shapiro, associatedirector of the Center on Budget and Policy Prioritiesin Washington, spotted the information last week andwrote a report analyzing it.Mr. Shapiro said the figures added to the center's"concerns over the increasingly regressive effects" ofthe reduced tax rates on capital. Continuing thoserates will "exacerbate the long-term trend towardgrowing income inequality," he wrote.The center, which studies how government affects thepoor and supports policies that it believes helpalleviate poverty, opposes Mr. Bush's tax policies.The center plans to release its own report on Mondaythat questions the wisdom of continuing the reduced taxrates on dividends and capital gains, saying theCongressional Budget Office analysis indicates that thebenefits flow directly to a relatively few Americans.http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/29/national/29rich.html?_r=1___portside (the left side in nautical parlance) is a news,discussion and debate service of the Committees ofCorrespondence for Democracy and Socialism. It aims toprovide varied material of interest to people on theleft.For answers to frequently asked questions:http://www.portside.org/faqTo subscribe, unsubscribe or change settings:http://lists.portside.org/mailman/listinfo/portsideTo submit material, paste into an email and send to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (postings are moderated)For assistance with your account:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To search the portside archive:https://lists.portside.org/pipermail/portside/___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
