Re: [biofuels-biz] Cracking

2002-09-13 Thread Lee Sheppard
Todd Swearingen so what can be done to bio-diesel to lower the gel point? I know that adding gasoline to diesel in winter is done by some to stop diesel gelling in winters lower temperatures. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- 4 DVDs Free +sp Join Now

[biofuels-biz] 'how to make biodiesel without waste products'

2002-09-13 Thread goat industries
Keith Todd - my real problem is 'how to make biodiesel without waste products'. Any fool can make biodiesel. It does'nt seem so easy to deal with the waste water and glycerine, and as far as I know, nobody seems to have come up with adequate solutions on the discussion groups. It is important

Re: [biofuels-biz] Cracking

2002-09-13 Thread Appal Energy
Lee, First thing? Utilize alcohols such as isopropanol and isobutyl rather than methanol. To what degree the process would need to be altered to achieve high conversion ratios isn't clear, but there would almost assuredly need to be some alterations. You could just fractionally distill the

Re: [biofuels-biz] Cracking

2002-09-13 Thread Keith Addison
http://164.195.100.11/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFd=PAL Lp=1u=/netahtml/srchnum.htmr=1f=Gl=50s1='5,713,965'.WKU.OS=PN/5 ,713,965RS=PN/5,713,965 United States Patent: 5,713,965 ( 1 of 1 ) United States Patent5,713,965 Foglia , et al. February 3,

Re: [biofuels-biz] 'how to make biodiesel without waste products'

2002-09-13 Thread Appal Energy
Paddy, I wouldn't be so sure that any fool can make biodiesel. I've seen a few who are far better at perfecting their court jesting skills than those of common sense. But your point is by and large applicable. The waste stream that exists with biodiesel manufacture can easily be resolved, even

Re: [biofuels-biz] 'how to make biodiesel without waste products'

2002-09-13 Thread Keith Addison
Paddy wrote: Keith Todd - my real problem is 'how to make biodiesel without waste products'. Any fool can make biodiesel. I thought so, but I'm still not convinced you can. It does'nt seem so easy to deal with the waste water and glycerine, and as far as I know, nobody seems to have come up

Re: [biofuels-biz] Cracking

2002-09-13 Thread Steve Spence
not by intelligent diesel owners. the logical choice is kerosene. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards: http://www.green-trust.org Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Lee Sheppard

RE: [biofuel] Need info on Perkins D3152 Engine

2002-09-13 Thread rwenham
Is this a car sales site? Raw -Original Message- From: Christopher Witmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 13 September 2002 1:44 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Need info on Perkins D3152 Engine Anyone familiar with the Perkins D3152 engine? I have located one

Re: [biofuel] EPA Links Lung Cancer, Diesel Exhaust

2002-09-13 Thread Hakan Falk
Hi, It was a brief of an EU document, but I did not save the link. Try the EU commission site. Hakan At 11:49 AM 9/13/2002 +0200, you wrote: Hi Hakan The only thing that they agree on is the large casualties caused by exhaust. Switzerland and France estimated that the yearly fatal casualties

Re: [biofuel] Air car.

2002-09-13 Thread jokefalcon
Ah, thanks. I guess I should have been more specific. It was a long day... How do they control the air going into the engine and how is the air exhausted? Does it operate like a four cycle engine or 2 cycle? On Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:13:39 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: [biofuel] Need info on Perkins D3152 Engine

2002-09-13 Thread dennis
i know all about that perkins engine, it is a 3 cylinder 152 cid . they were made in england, and were mainly used in massey ferguson tractors. they are very easy on fuel easy to repair and are one the cheapest engine to overhaul. they also start good and these motors stay together. they have

Re: [biofuel] Air car.

2002-09-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 13 Sep 2002 13:43:40 -0500, you wrote: Ah, thanks. I guess I should have been more specific. It was a long day... How do they control the air going into the engine and how is the air exhausted? Does it operate like a four cycle engine or 2 cycle? Hard to say. Here is a

Re: [biofuel] Air car.

2002-09-13 Thread Steve Spence
they don't :-) technically, a compressed tank of air runs a air motor (steam engine) connected to the wheels. unfortunately, you can't carry enough air for a reasonable range, and you waste much more energy compressing the air, than you get back from it. for further info, see

Re: [biofuel] Air car.

2002-09-13 Thread Steve Spence
I got a bridge to sell you .. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards: http://www.green-trust.org Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com

Re: [biofuel] Need info on Perkins D3152 Engine

2002-09-13 Thread Steve Spence
40 bhp (30 Kw) at 1850 rpm, 3cyl, water cooled diesel see http://www.heimer.com.br/professional_i.htm for fuel consumption and other info. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards: http://www.green-trust.org Renewable Energy Pages -

Re: [biofuel] Air car.

2002-09-13 Thread Steve Spence
like a steam engine. 4 cycle doesn't make sense if there is no combustion. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards: http://www.green-trust.org Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL

Re: [biofuel] Air car.

2002-09-13 Thread Steve Spence
looks like they are using a 4 cycle design. sort of a combustion power stroke, kinda. weird. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards: http://www.green-trust.org Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message

Re: [biofuel] Air car.

2002-09-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am going to continue to watch their efforts with an open mind. I am interested to find out what energy efficiency they are able to realize in converting the air into motion. I am also interested to learn the energy efficiency of compression. From their web page it would appear that there is

Re: [biofuel] Need info on Perkins D3152 Engine

2002-09-13 Thread Christopher Witmer
Thanks, Steve. The table at the link below is especially interesting since the engine I'm looking at is in fact part of a genset. Do you know what the meaning of the abbreviations CV and g/CVh are in the context of this table? Gratefully, Christopher Witmer Steve Spence wrote: 40 bhp (30

Re: [biofuel] Air car.

2002-09-13 Thread Appal Energy
Hence the 5# bag of #13 rubberbands in the glove box... :-) Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Steve Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Air car. they don't :-) technically, a compressed tank

Re: [biofuel] Air car.

2002-09-13 Thread imido50
PREThe air car makes sense, I don't know much but I know that air under pressure could ignite it's energy. The only problem is that it takes a large quantity of air for such a small amount of energy.I' heard about ten years ago that an engine can run on air alone so this is not something new.

[biofuel] Got th job (to Keith... and others too)

2002-09-13 Thread Christian Lenoir
Dear Keith, I«m just writing to let you know I was given the job in the U.S., at Environmental Engineering Technology, so if the US Consulate grants me the H-1b visa, I«ll be able to go and live over there in Virginia in a couple of months, after the firm (and it«s law office) has completed all

Re: [biofuel] Got th job (to Keith... and others too)

2002-09-13 Thread Steve Spence
I'll have to make the 3 hour trip to see you. let me know when you arrive. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards: http://www.green-trust.org Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From:

Re: [biofuel] Air car.

2002-09-13 Thread Steve Spence
you are forgetting how much petroleum will have to be burned to compress the air. next .. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards: http://www.green-trust.org Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message

Re: [biofuel] Got th job (to Keith... and others too)

2002-09-13 Thread Appal Energy
HLawyers pickin' your brains right off the bat? Sure hope their the left kinda' lawyers, rather than the type that lean to the right Congrats. You'll be spittin' distance from Appal Energy, presuming yee be a champion spitter! Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From:

RE: [biofuel] Air car.

2002-09-13 Thread kirk
It makes sense until you do an energy analysis. Efficient compression requires the temperature stay the same. In practice this is very much NOT the case and thus in the real world losses are huge. Kirk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday,

Re: [biofuel] Need info on Perkins D3152 Engine

2002-09-13 Thread Steve Spence
Thank you Professor Kirk! ;-) Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards: http://www.green-trust.org Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com

RE: [biofuel] Need info on Perkins D3152 Engine

2002-09-13 Thread kirk
metric horsepower a unit of power, defined to be the power required to raise a mass of 75 kilograms at a velocity of 1 meter per second. This is approximately 735.499 watts or 0.986 32 horsepower. The unit is also known by its French name cheval vapeur or its German name pferdestrke. 197 grams

Re: [biofuel] Air car.

2002-09-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
you are forgetting how much petroleum will have to be burned to compress the air. next .. Fossil Fuels such as coal and natural gas in power plants, but petroleum would seem less likely. Very few electricity producing power plants use petroleum. Hawaii and maybe a few other places.