Re: [Biofuel] VW Diesel

2005-06-26 Thread Rachel Burton
Hello Biofuel List, If anyone is interested, I have more information on the install of Elsbett single tank systems. (It is large document not suitable for posting) We will be hosting another Elsbett install workshop in North Carolina, U.S. in September. If you are interested in

Fwd: [Biofuel] Re: Environmentalism is dead. What's next?

2005-06-26 Thread capt3d
just to elaborate a little further on the example of roads, there wasn't a lot of investment in them in general; whether for the peasants/serfs or for the lords. and they--the lords--would have done so had they felt it suited them, but as keith aptly pointed out, one's affairs were much more

Re: [Biofuel] Re: Environmentalism is dead. What's next?

2005-06-26 Thread capt3d
i have to agree. in this case, the people's homes are being approproated to serve another's interest. how many of them will enjoy any long-term benefit, such as employment with the new firm? few, if any, i supsect. what's more, the development corp (how many of them, btw, reside in the

Fwd: [Biofuel] Money that grows on crops

2005-06-26 Thread capt3d
cool bit of news. in a similar though sinister vein, surely one of the agro-giants like monsanto is already working on a gm bacteria or algea to extract gold from seawater. -chris b. ---BeginMessage--- http://csmonitor.com/2004/0415/p17s02-sten.html Money that grows on crops By Jen Ross |

Re: Re[2]: [Biofuel] Re: Environmentalism is dead. What's next?

2005-06-26 Thread Hakan Falk
I said that too, when someone first pointed out to me that the texts that the Vikings wrote on the Rune Stones was of old Turkish origin. Then I was directed to some web sites that dealt with this and it was very convincing. Too much info and similarities to be a hoax, but I am not sure

Re: [Biofuel] VW Diesel

2005-06-26 Thread Jan Warnqvist
Hello Lyn. Yes, you are missing something. The main problem with SVO as diesel engine fuel is not the high viscosity, but the final boiling point and the low cetane number. Elsbett system have taken action before these disadvantages and have designed a dual air system in the combustion chamber of

[Biofuel] Isn't It Time We Regulated Chemicals?

2005-06-26 Thread Keith Addison
RACHEL'S ENVIRONMENT HEALTH NEWS #820 http://www.rachel.org June 23, 2005 ^ ^ Isn't It Time We Regulated Chemicals? By Tim Montague* If you read almost any newspaper these days, you learn the following

[Biofuel] China's Oil Bid Riles Congress

2005-06-26 Thread Keith Addison
See: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=1087sid=aSWKDh5piHqkrefer =top_world_news CNOOC Offers $18.5 Bln for Unocal, Tops Chevron Plan (Update10) June 23 (Bloomberg) - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/23/AR2005 062302065.html China's Oil Bid Riles

[Biofuel] WHO study raises biotech food concerns + FDA spins facts to Congress

2005-06-26 Thread Keith Addison
Fwd - FYI From: News Update from The Campaign [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: WHO study raises biotech food concerns + FDA spins facts to Congress Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 News Update From The Campaign - Dear News Update Subscribers, WHO REPORT ON

Re: [Biofuel] VW Diesel

2005-06-26 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Jan Hello Lyn. Yes, you are missing something. The main problem with SVO as diesel engine fuel is not the high viscosity, but the final boiling point and the low cetane number. Elsbett system have taken action before these disadvantages and have designed a dual air system in the

Re: [Biofuel] VW Diesel

2005-06-26 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Lyn I went to the site that Keith recommended and it looks fantastic. What this maker Elsbett sells is a one tank system you can put anything from WVO to Dino into. If such a system exists, why are people bothing to make biodiesel? It would be easier, more ecological, economical etc to

[Biofuel] War-bent administration

2005-06-26 Thread r
If this war-bent administration really wants Thirld World War, all it has to do is keep bossing around China, especially concerning petroleum issues. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: Re[2]: [Biofuel] Re: Environmentalism is dead. What's next?

2005-06-26 Thread capt3d
hello, hakan. ok, i thought you meant something along those lines. still, i don't get the link between the roman legions and the turks. or are you referring to the byzantines (if so, they didn't have 'legions')? i'll have to try and google the website you speak of, and see what they say.

Re: [Biofuel] War-bent administration

2005-06-26 Thread capt3d
i agree that if there is another world war-type conflict, trade/economic tensions between the u.s.a. and china is the obvious breeding ground. but i don't think it will be caused by a war-bent adminitration, at least not this one. it foresee a rather more complex (and worrisome) dynamic.

Re: Re[2]: [Biofuel] Re: Environmentalism is dead. What's next?

2005-06-26 Thread capt3d
btw, hakan, without getting into a whole spiel about the vikings and linguistics/linguistic origins as well as the turks, there was a corps of vikings--the varingian guard--who served the emporors of byzantium. thus they would have inevitably left relics in what is modern day turkey. -chris

Re: Fwd: [Biofuel] Money that grows on crops

2005-06-26 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Chris, Kirk cool bit of news. in a similar though sinister vein, surely one of the agro-giants like monsanto is already working on a gm bacteria or algea to extract gold from seawater. Hm. Will nickle do for starters? I came across this below in my files today - The Phytomining of

Re: Fwd: [Biofuel] Money that grows on crops

2005-06-26 Thread Michael Redler
As we all know, technology has a way of changing what materials we consider valuable.We seem to be in a period of flux which makes me very interested in your comments. I had no idea that these companies had this kind of ambition. Because of it's namesake, Saltzburg used to be one of the most

Re: Re[2]: [Biofuel] Re: Environmentalism is dead. What's next?

2005-06-26 Thread Hakan Falk
Chris, Maybe I am adding more to it than it is, but the connection is there. A very common Viking name, that we know existed from the Vikings and I think that it was a Hakon in the Ericsson crew, that discovered America. The Roman Empire and their conscript armies, was going far up North in

Re: [Biofuel] VW Diesel

2005-06-26 Thread William Adams
Anyone: Is there a glossary link for newbies explaining such acronyms as WVO, SVO, Dino, VW Diesel, etc.? Bob A - Original Message - From: Lyn Gerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] VW Diesel I went to

Re: Re[2]: [Biofuel] Re: Environmentalism is dead. What's next?

2005-06-26 Thread Hakan Falk
Chris, The Viking era in the Nordic countries, around 800 ac? Hakan At 09:02 PM 6/26/2005, you wrote: btw, hakan, without getting into a whole spiel about the vikings and linguistics/linguistic origins as well as the turks, there was a corps of vikings--the varingian guard--who served the

Re: [Biofuel] VW Diesel

2005-06-26 Thread capt3d
hi, bob. wvo = waste vegetable oil svo = straight vegetable oil biod = biodiesel dino = petroleum-based fuel (or so i infer) e85 = 85% ethanol fuel (the norm in the u.s.a. is 10% max) e100 = 100% ethanol vw diesel simply refers to a vw diesel. i think that about covers it. -chris b.

Re: [Biofuel] re property taking supreme court

2005-06-26 Thread Larry Foran
Brian, Her comments were exactly what I was trying to get across in the other thread. Now City Planners can use acquistion of Taxes as a means to take personal propery. There is a situation in Houston in which a family owned river front business is about to lose 300 feet of their property so a

[Biofuel] Re: New thread - the Vikings.....

2005-06-26 Thread bmolloy
Hi Hakan, The Vikings have an intriguing history (if you don't mind my putting in my twopence worth). Originally a collection of pagan seafarers, the Vikings developed into a military force when they struck easy pickings in the wake of the Roman pullout from their northern

[Biofuel] Calcium Acetate/Alcohol Fuel

2005-06-26 Thread Michael Redler
I found a movie demonstration for makingsolid/semi solid fuel. I thought some of you might be interested. http://jchemed.chem.wisc.edu/JCESoft/CCA/CCA3/MAIN/CANHEAT/PAGE1.HTM Mike___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

[Biofuel] vikings, turks and romans (was: Environmentalism is dead. What's next?)

2005-06-26 Thread capt3d
hakan, i wasn't disputing everything you suggest. what i do have trouble with, and correct me if i'm misinterpreting you, is the notion that the vikings could somehow be descended both from the roman legions and the turks. could there have been contact between the romans and scandinavia?

Re: [Biofuel] Re: New thread - the Vikings.....

2005-06-26 Thread Hakan Falk
Bob, The Vikings are interesting, also because they were very good in physiological warfare. I did find an article about that they probably came from the middle east, but it is in Swedish, http://www.fof.se/?id=043jPress It is a well known and reputable Swedish research publication.

Re: [Biofuel] vikings, turks and romans

2005-06-26 Thread Hakan Falk
Chris, Look at my mail to Bob. The Vikings had a regular and well established trading relationship with MiklagÄrd, which was Constantinople. This is proven in many ways, by written sagas and also by history from that part. When they visited Constantinople, it was special rules for them and

RE: [Biofuel] Re: New thread - the Vikings.....

2005-06-26 Thread Fred Enga
Hello All, I have refrained from this thread until now. What you are saying here is a mish-mash of the Snorri version of the origin of Odin, mixed with the basic folk movements. Snorri, to keep the Christian Church happy at the time he transcribed the Sagas etc, stated that Odin and the Aesir

[Biofuel] Gilded cage

2005-06-26 Thread r
The American society is in a gilded cage. So sad. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html