RE: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-15 Thread Tim Schlueter
Hakan, Yes, that is quite immoral to export our dirty work much less support oppresive regimes for any reason. My question is how can we avoid foreign entanglements, regardless of methods, without being completely discompassionate? At the same time if we refrain from taking advantage of

[Biofuel] Bushfood

2005-08-15 Thread Keith Addison
Not that the politics of oil aren't crucial to what's driving Washington these days, but the politics of edible oil also need recognition, along with an alternative world-saving economic and social strategy based on local and community food security. [CFS = Community Food Security] Date: Wed,

[Biofuel] Beyond GMO ... the REAL answer to healthy, disease resistant crops

2005-08-15 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.newfarm.org/international/pan-am_don/nov04/chapingo.shtml Beyond GMO ... the REAL answer to healthy, disease resistant crops Down in Mexico, two plant scientists, despite lack of funding and support, are staging a true green revolution. By using a strategy called horizontal

[Biofuel] Puncturing the GM Myths

2005-08-15 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.i-sis.org.uk/GMmyths.php Puncturing the GM Myths ISIS Press Release 08/04/04 Puncturing the GM Myths From an interview with Dr. Mae-Wan Ho, Director of the Institute of Science in Society, by Anastasia Stephens of the Evening Standard Dr. Mae-Wan Ho, senior academic scientist in a

[Biofuel] Famine As Commerce - was Re: The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-15 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.mindfully.org/GE/GE4/Famine-As-Commerce-Bertini6aug02.htm Famine as commerce: Africa's tragedy DEVANDER SHARMA / AgBioIndia 6aug02 Famine As Commerce By Devinder Sharma Food is power. We use it to change behavior. Some may call that bribery. We do not apologize - Catherine Bertini,

[Biofuel] Planting Lies

2005-08-15 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.spectrezine.org/environment/GMO2.htm Biotechnology and GMO - Steve Mcgiffen in Spectrezine, 13th June 2003 Planting Lies The agricultural biotechnology industry likes to portray itself as the future, a future under threat from superstitious opponents who are anti-science. In fact,

[Biofuel] Famines as Commercial Opportunity - was Re: The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-15 Thread Keith Addison
See web version for many links to sources, references and further information. ... Famines as Commercial Opportunity by Anup Shah Biodiversity, agriculture and climate change, and famine as a commercial opportunity. Industrial monoculture agriculture reduces ecological and food diversity

Re: [Biofuel] County considering GM food

2005-08-15 Thread Keith Addison
Hi everyone, My Santa Cruz, California county is considering outlawing genetically modified food in the county. I have downloaded a lot of info on the subject from your emails to share with them. Does anyone have anything that can help regarding how people have successfully made it illegal in

RE: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-15 Thread Hakan Falk
Tim, There are many of the top 20 industrialized who, per capita, give more foreign aid than US. The fact is that the most of them do. This both in percentage of GDP and in absolute numbers. Most of them have a behavior of quite high standard and without corruptive and reciprocal rules.

RE: [Biofuel] Biofuel College Courses

2005-08-15 Thread Bede
depending on the speed your going a higher torque engine can cruise more effcently at a lower rpm than a smaller engine trying to do the same work at a higher rpm if the road is mainly flat, Then the only real diffrence between the 2 cars once up to highway speed is the the amount of effort to

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel College Courses

2005-08-15 Thread Jan Warnqvist
Hi all, interfering with basic physics: The mass of the object moving, is of outmost importance, since it takes more energy to move a heavy object than a less heavy one. This is mathematically most significant when moving the object up-hill. Compared to these circumstances, the rolling and wind

Re: [Biofuel] washing?

2005-08-15 Thread Joe Street
Can you give us details on this.  Is anyone doing this currently? Joe Tom Irwin wrote: Hi all,   For those of you that needs it, the glycerol can also be converted via anaerobic digestor to methane for stoves and boilers. Not such a good idea for city folk but on the farm it

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel College Courses

2005-08-15 Thread Mike Weaver
I have had (my girlfriend owns it now) a Civic and have never such poor MPG. Did you change the air filter? Pablo wrote: I am 18 and not sure where I want to go to college. I might take the year off, as it is so late to be signing up. My question for everyone is, does anyone here know of

RE: [Biofuel] Biofuel College Courses

2005-08-15 Thread Rademan, Jacobus
HI PABLO,AND EVERYONE My friend has a v8 3.9l land rover disco and he beats the 2.4 l nissan bakkie that weighs less hows this possible ? remember that the v8 does not have to work hard at all to go 120km/hour were the nissan is working its ass off so check your torque and power before u buy a

RE: [Biofuel] Biofuel College Courses

2005-08-15 Thread Greg Ocnos
Hi I am new and it's been eye opening with all the subjects. College: I went to a biofuel seminar sponsored by WasteCap Resource Conservation Network www.wastecapnh.org One of there speakers was Professor Michael S. Briggs of the Physics Dept. He and the school have a large recycling program

RE: [Biofuel] Biofuel College Courses

2005-08-15 Thread Greg Ocnos
My Bad UNH University of New Hampshire. Greg O. -Original Message- From: Greg Ocnos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 7:35 AM To: 'Biofuel@sustainablelists.org' Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Biofuel College Courses Hi I am new and it's been eye opening with all the

RE: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-15 Thread Tim Schlueter
Hakan, What you are saying then is foreign aid does not necessarily fit the definition of foreign entanglement? Further, even if it did, that type of entanglement is OK? You are right about the demand side of illicit drugs. I was referring to the supply side. Another Country just simply

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel College Courses

2005-08-15 Thread eric_lantz
Based on my searches university of minnesota has the most research devoted to renewable energy with a good bit of that being on biofuels and biobased products. Also though it seems MIT is busting onto the scene and if I recall correctly I think the university of MA Amherst also has some

RE: [Biofuel] Diesel Price

2005-08-15 Thread Rademan, Jacobus
Hi all, diesel in South Africa is now selling for R5.75 per litre but i think we should take in account minimum wadge per hour in your country, R5.75 may be cheap for u but for a bloke that owns minimum wadge can just buy 1 litre per hour and nothing els. Thanx Kobus South Africa

Re: [Biofuel] washing?

2005-08-15 Thread Keith Addison
Can you give us details on this.¬Ý Is anyone doing this currently? Joe This message didn't make it into the archives for some reason so I'll send it again: Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 18:56:38 +0900 To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel]

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel College Courses

2005-08-15 Thread Joe Street
University of Guelph in Ontario Canada just announced a program offering a major in organic farming. I would suggest you have your civic looked at again. I drove mine for 12 years and got a very reliable 4.8 liters /100km summer and about 5.5 liters/100km winter. Running 94% octane. (that's

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel College Courses

2005-08-15 Thread Mike Weaver
With regards to college several in NE have pretty progressive degree programs Hampshire and Goddard come to mind - you may be able to design your own degree in Biofuels. -Mike Pablo wrote: I am 18 and not sure where I want to go to college. I might take the year off, as it is so late to be

Re: [Biofuel] County considering GM food

2005-08-15 Thread marilyn
S. Chapin The article was called Frankenfood in the Aug 4 issue of Good Times, a weekly Santa Cruz County paper. Read it in the archives at: http://www.gtweekly.com/cover/story.2005-08-03.4435359525 Then, if you live in the county, email me about getting people together to stop the commission

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel College Courses - and More than you ever wanted to know about octane...

2005-08-15 Thread Mike Weaver
That's impressive - the best I ever got was 46 on the hiway. Octane has no bearing on power, and really doesn't matter in a Civic. Most people don't know what octane is, or what it does, which is a triumph of marketing. I always get a laugh out of earnest reporters talking about high octane

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel Mileage was colledge courses

2005-08-15 Thread Joe Street
Well the fuel mileage definitely has more to do with my driving style than anything else. The car is a '92 hatchback which IIRC boasted the lowest coefficient of drag of any production car at the time. My foot never pushes the pedal more than a hair. I don't mind being the slow poke

[Biofuel] problem solving

2005-08-15 Thread Kirk McLoren
A TEXAS Rancher's wife called the local phone company to report her telephone failed to ring when her friends called -- and that on the few occasions when it did ring, her pet dog always moaned right before the phone rang. The telephone repairman proceeded to the scene, curious to see this

Re: [Biofuel] washing?

2005-08-15 Thread Tom Irwin
Hi Joe, Well, first of all you need an anerobic digestor. The folks in India are perhaps the world leaders in this type of technology at the farm level. The simpliest one I'veseen is taking 28 meters of, I think it was, 3 mil plastic bagging material and pulling one end inside out so you have

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-15 Thread capt3d
mike, in spite of common folklore, anarchism does not mean every man for himself. sometimes referred to as 'libertarian' socialsim (as opposed to 'authoritarian' models such as communism), the basic tenet is the abolition of the detached, alienated authority of government and its

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel College Courses

2005-08-15 Thread capt3d
paolo: waht is the history of this car? who were the previous owners? it's possible the car was modified for enhanced performance. there's a jazillion aftermarket products out there including engine control computers for that generation of civic. -chris b.

RE: [Biofuel] Diesel Price

2005-08-15 Thread Bob Clark
Hi All, I just joined this list a few minutes ago so the chance to get and send some feedback so soon is awesome!! I just returned yesterday from a trip that took me from Pennsylvania, across Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Missouri and into Arkansas (and of course the same states returning). Over

[Biofuel] RE: Biofuel College Courses

2005-08-15 Thread chris davidson
The Oregon Institute of Technology looks like it has a good curriculum for renewable energy: Full curriculum details on this link: http://www.oit.edu/orec/13 Full curriculum details on this link Degrees Offered Bachelor of Science in Renewable Energy Systems Renewable energy is an exciting

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel College Courses

2005-08-15 Thread Joe McCarthy
Hi Paul, if you are running non standard (wider) wheels tyres on the car or have the tyre pressure wrong it will also increase your fuel consumption. Also, are you sure you had the handbrake off? ;) JMcC. On 15 Aug 2005, at 14:52, Joe Street wrote: University of Guelph in Ontario Canada

Re: [Biofuel] de-polymerizing cellulose not practical at this point

2005-08-15 Thread Brian Rodgers
Great feedback Robert, thanks I think I have a better grasp of your aptitude at this point.  Even if you ARE comfortable with boilers, I suggest you join a "Live Steam" group and spend some time with people, like you, who understand machines.  You are right to caution people on the hazards of

Re: [Biofuel] de-polymerizing cellulose not practical at this point

2005-08-15 Thread Brian Rodgers
Thank you Manick You have another option with steam. It will break down on its ownhemicelluloses under pressure. And if a catalyst is present celluloses also, in yields depending on amounts present. I think you could use acids or alkalis as catalysts. You could use undigested lignin as boiler

[Biofuel] Honda Civic MPG

2005-08-15 Thread Andy Karpay
One thing not discussed previously is tire pressure. Low tire pressure can cause drastic loss of mpg. Just because an engine is 100 HP does not mean it needs to output the full 100HP. Once the vehicle is up to speed then, as previously stated, you only need to only overcome friction. The

Re: [Biofuel] de-polymerizing cellulose not practical at this point

2005-08-15 Thread Brian Rodgers
Hi Chris Thanks for the letter. brian, i would seriously encourage you to look into a solar rather than wood power to run your boiler. i don't know the capabilities or limitations of solar boilers, but i know they're out there and your location, well, isn't that kind of like solar

Re: [Biofuel] Gycerine digesting was washing?

2005-08-15 Thread Joe Street
Thanks Tom; I did some searching months back when I read it might be possible to digest glycerine for methane production.  I found surprisingly little info from anyone actually doing it!  I found plans for a home size two stage aerobic / anaerobic digester here  

Re: [Biofuel] problem solving

2005-08-15 Thread Garth Kim Travis
Thanks Kirk, This one was definitely worth passing on. Bright Blessings, Kim At 02:45 PM 8/15/2005, you wrote: A TEXAS Rancher's wife called the local phone company to report her telephone failed to ring when her friends called -- and that on the few occasions when it did ring, her pet

RE: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-15 Thread Hakan Falk
Tim, I will clarify and repeat. At 15:57 15/08/2005, you wrote: Hakan, What you are saying then is foreign aid does not necessarily fit the definition of foreign entanglement? Further, even if it did, that type of entanglement is OK? Complicated matter for US, but there are more

Re: [Biofuel] de-polymerizing cellulose not practical at this point

2005-08-15 Thread capt3d
i wondered about the layout and terrain of your property while writing the previous. but since you are always referring to it as the ranch, one forms a certain idea. :) just to clarify one point, while i did comment on smaller boilers to serve separate buildings, my remark about a smaller

RE: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks

2005-08-15 Thread DERICK GIORCHINO
Ford did as dodge does. For years ford installed international harvester engines in there trucks and vans but represented them as a ford product. Dont get me wrong they were good engines but I never saw a turbo unit. Im not sure when ford came out with there powerstroke. Dodge has always

Re: [Biofuel] de-polymerizing cellulose not practical at this point

2005-08-15 Thread robert luis rabello
Brian Rodgers wrote: Great feedback Robert, thanks You're welcome. I wish I could contribute to the practical, hands on discussions of this list more often than I do. Yes this is one of the first sites I found the other day. I can't recall how I came to it though. Most of my reading

RE: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-15 Thread Tim Schlueter
Hakan, What would you consider to be one example of a successful country that delivers foreign aid from which the US could learn? I would not expect a country to obey our laws in their own country. That is not what I meant. I apologize for that. I'm referring to legal activities/products

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-15 Thread Michael Redler
The context in which it was written: Doug wrote: "Impossible for the lone individual to protect their own basic rights." My reply: "That's easy enough to believe (unless you're an anarchist)."Anarchism is a political view derived from the Greek áíáñ÷ßá ("without archons (rulers)"). Thus

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-15 Thread Doug Younker
Michael- in that context, the anarchists belief they wouldn't be trampled under foot under anarchy, I would have to agree. Sorry if I missed something out of turn. After this, this will be dead topic for me. Doug From: Michael Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent:

Re: [Biofuel] Honda Civic MPG

2005-08-15 Thread Randall
A few questions I would ask are: 1) Is the Civic automatic or manual transmission...if automatic, is it shifting correctly through all gears? If manual, is the clutch slipping? 2) Do you have the correct sized tires on the Civic? 3) Is the speedometer/odometer calibrated correctly? 4) How

RE: [Biofuel] Running on WVO

2005-08-15 Thread DERICK GIORCHINO
Do you mean new or new to you? The late model Cummins has a electronic common rail injection system and should not be used with w v o. Check out www.greasecar.com there are others but I don't remember the address. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [Biofuel] de-polymerizing cellulose not practical at this point

2005-08-15 Thread Brian Rodgers
Hello Chris Thanks for the response. Sorry about the confusion. We call it a ranch but it can be considered a tree farm or a cattle ranch. We have 50 acres of irrigated pasture, 50 acres non irrigated pasture, 100 acres of Ponderosa Pine forest and 40 acres of Pion and Cedar Trees. Our family

Re: [Biofuel] de-polymerizing cellulose not practical at this point

2005-08-15 Thread Brian Rodgers
Thanks Harlan Hi Brian, Why not use the cellulose and convert it to methane using anerobic fermentation. The residue is fertilizer and the products are CO2 and methane gas. One glucose molecule gives you 3 parts methane and 3 parts(molecules) CO2. Burn the methane directly in the generator.

Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks

2005-08-15 Thread Wireless Data Transfer
If I'm correct, Ford first used a diesel on their pick up line on '82, it was the 6.9liter made by International(Navistar) which evolved later to the 7.3liter.If a recall allright, it is a direct bolt-on swap, those diesel should mate any Ford transmission, standard or auto (for the auto,

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-15 Thread William Adams
Hakan, Well said, and most appropriate. But may I respectfully note that like all generalizations, there are many exceptions to the general rule (that lack of international experience leads to a closed mind). Example: Although I, along with many of my friends, have zero international living

RE: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-15 Thread Hakan Falk
Tim, At 00:02 16/08/2005, you wrote: Hakan, What would you consider to be one example of a successful country that delivers foreign aid from which the US could learn? All the Scandinavian countries, UK, Germany, The Netherlands, Switzerland etc. I would not expect a country to obey our

Re: [Biofuel] mercedes/dodge sprinter vans?

2005-08-15 Thread Lars Andersson
We have a Mercedes Sprinter 316 CDI as a job van. I checked with the Swedish distributor about using biodiesel as fuel and they answered something undecided and then that maximum 5% was okey but they did not want any biodiesel at all in the fuel tank because it was possible to get 4% once

Re: [Biofuel] mercedes/dodge sprinter vans?

2005-08-15 Thread S. Chapin
Lars Andersson wrote: We have a Mercedes Sprinter 316 CDI as a job van. I checked with the Swedish distributor about using biodiesel as fuel and they answered something undecided and then that maximum 5% was okey but they did not want any biodiesel at all in the fuel tank because it was

[Biofuel] reply to Andy in Tampa

2005-08-15 Thread Mustangsqd
Andy - I live in Miami - are you able to buy BD in Tampa or are you making your own? I fyou are making your own - I would like to see how you do it. Thanks! Best regards, Ed ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org