Re: [Biofuel] 7 myths of energy independence

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Re: [Biofuel] 7 myths of energy independence

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Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work as proven to the world by Shell Oil Company in 1973

How does one vaporize all the different components in today's gasoline? Don't all those additives and stuff complicate the situation? John Mike Pelly wrote: We did tests on Vaporized Gasoline carburation on a datsun/nissan 510 and the gas milage results were not all that impressive. We

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel from Algae??

Thanks James Keith, I remembered the discussion on the list a while ago, had found similar links to the ones James gave me. I was also aware that SVO was an option ( a friend runs a SVO/diesel mix in Ireland in a Rover. I was interested in any info on an Australian development of the

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel from Algae??

Hello Doug et al. There are two major concern signs about biodiesel from algae oil: 1) The algae have to be fed with CO2 during growth. If this CO2 comes from fossile sources, you have achieved almost nothing. 2) The oil from algae is highly unsaturated. This makes it difficult to have the

[Biofuel] 7 myths of energy independence

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Re: [Biofuel] 7 myths of energy independence

Hello Francene http://128.128.76.85/page.do?pid=12455 Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution. Thanks, I've been there before. The Woods Hole people said there might be an ice age in western Europe because of fresh water melting into the gulf stream. This is also covered in Inconvinient Truth but

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel from Algae??

Hello James Doug, Here are a few links. I've driven an E250 van that ran on biodiesel made from algae oil.. Well that would be a first. It needs a little more detail please James, or a lot more detail. Considering that by all accounts there is no such thing as biodiesel from algae apart from

Re: [Biofuel] We Need To Solve The Oil Crisis--Now

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Darryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's an oil crisis? Maybe I don't understand the term. I hear the price is rising for liquid petroleum fuel products, but in a free market economy, that's not a crisis, it's an adjustment. Yes, unless I missed

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel from Algae??

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Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work as proven to the world by Shell Oil Company in 1973

Most all of the components do vaporized given enough heat. We heated to about 300F degrees but did find some nasty looking residues still remaining in the trap afterwards. Always was curious as to what these were. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work as proven to theworld by Shell Oil Company in 1973

Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of doug Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 6:01 PM To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work as proven to theworld by Shell Oil Company in 1973 Mike, I

Re: [Biofuel] We Need To Solve The Oil Crisis--Now

Kirk McLoren wrote: I am in favor of new laws - only if you recind an old one. There are so many laws now the only way you know you are breaking one is if they pinch you. Kirk I can't recall a time when I first learned of a law is when I was pinched. I'm still relatively young, perhaps

Re: [Biofuel] We Need To Solve The Oil Crisis--Now

Chip Mefford wrote: There were a *lot* of problems with this. I'm not going to go into it all, in fact, I'm barely going to scratch the surface. But essentially, the nationwide 55mph speed limit was about as popular as prohibition, and caused many of the same problems. That was

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Re: [Biofuel] Fuel from Algae??

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Re: [Biofuel] 7 myths of energy independence

Francene, have you done the test with DC-rated equipment? Most low-cost EMF testing equipment is designed for use with AC power. What standards for health and safety are you comparing your figures to? Have you run the equivalent test on a conventional automobile in the vicinity of the

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Re: [Biofuel] 7 myths of energy independence

I have not read Blume's book, however, I do take exception to this statement, and the implicit assumption that electricity can only be produced from coal and nuclear as a universal, immutable and eternal truth. I live on the border between Ontario and Quebec. In Quebec ALL grid electricity is

Re: [Biofuel] We Need To Solve The Oil Crisis--Now

doug wrote: Hi, You are saying you got 56mpg from your Prius: I have a 307 Peugeot Diesel get ~17Km/L: ie about 50M/imp Gallon (about 10% bigger than a US Gallon I think: one of the few things the Poms can claim is bigger than in the States!!) If the Pug is driven with economy in

Re: [Biofuel] So, here it is, Food Shortage?

Yes, it's very interesting the sudden food crisis showing up on the mainstream news. Oddly I go to the grocery store, and it is still completely full of every concievable type of food, and while prices are going up, they are still quite cheap. Is the US not feeling the effects of this,

Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work as proven to theworldby Shell Oil Company in 1973

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Re: [Biofuel] 7 myths of energy independence

Darryl McMahon wrote: Francene, have you done the test with DC-rated equipment? Most low-cost EMF testing equipment is designed for use with AC power. I believe the Prius does use AC. Doug ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel from Algae??

This technology was widely covered yesterday in the History Channel, Latin america. There is an electricity central in the US, were the CO2 emmisions are being passed through an algae/light/oxigen bioreactor and consequently the algae grow. The algae is unicellular living thing. Most of it

Re: [Biofuel] We Need To Solve The Oil Crisis--Now

this planet hasn't seen a free market in over 600 years, beginning with the british empire. noone really knows what one looks like. people keep treating money like its a commodity, when its just multicolored scratch paper. if we could ever get back to trading value-added materials for goods

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Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work as proven totheworldby Shell Oil Company in 1973

On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Mike Pelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: come up with a solid reason why Shell Oil was able to get 376MPGs (7 times prius milage) back in 1973. Were they? When I followed that link, I got a one page pdf which only seemed to contain the title page and endmost page