Hi!
At 19:36 25.12.05, you wrote:
Hello Vaklin
Hi!
At 18:29 24.12.05, you wrote:
Hello Vaklin
My personal opinion, not sure I'm right or not...
+ KOH dissolves in seconds in CH3OH
Some of it does, but it takes about 10 minutes or more to dissolve
what you'd use to make
Hi
At 21:58 25.12.05, you wrote:
Vaklin,
For now I'm living in the jungle, my friend. I'm
sure the day when I'll take care about the
environment will come soon, but when, nobody knows.
I really hope I didn't hear that right. Just what do you propose to do
with the glyc cocktail after it
Vaklin,
White country
is a country like USA, Canada, EU etc. where citizens behavior is
adequate and salary is adequate too. In these countries is normal to
use more environment suitable components and take care about waste
products. In another countries called countries from third world
Vaklin
This just gets more and more irrational. A couple of comments and
I'll leave you to it.
snip
I have wrote approximately. Exactly the value is as you said.
If all you have is an approximate value for such a thing then find an
accurate value before you post it, otherwise you're just
For now I'm living in the jungle, my friend. I'm
sure the day when I'll take care about the
environment will come soon, but when, nobody knows.
BTW explain me please (for a future use) if I do
my batches with KOH and live in white country
how I can save some money. Exactly difference
between
Hello Vaklin
Hi!
At 18:29 24.12.05, you wrote:
Hello Vaklin
My personal opinion, not sure I'm right or not...
+ KOH dissolves in seconds in CH3OH
Some of it does, but it takes about 10 minutes or more to dissolve
what you'd use to make a batch.
o The process has not faster than
Vaklin,
For now I'm living in the jungle, my friend. I'm
sure the day when I'll take care about the
environment will come soon, but when, nobody knows.
I really hope I didn't hear that right. Just what do you propose to do
with the glyc cocktail after it settles out of the reaction? Dump
I would...consider NaOH flakes over beads, usually cheaper...and dbl check that 90% pure KoH is good enough.I'm a fan of the NaOH method because it leaves you with a byproduct that can be used in waste fuel furnaces.
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Hello Vaklin
My personal opinion, not sure I'm right or not...
+ KOH dissolves in seconds in CH3OH
Some of it does, but it takes about 10 minutes or more to dissolve
what you'd use to make a batch.
o The process has not faster than one with NaOH
No, and also it's not slower.
- KOH here is 3
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I would...
consider NaOH flakes over beads, usually cheaper...
and dbl check that 90% pure KoH is good enough.
85% is good enough. Please see:
More about lye
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make2.html#lye
I'm a fan of the NaOH method because it
Hi!
At 18:29 24.12.05, you wrote:
Hello Vaklin
My personal opinion, not sure I'm right or not...
+ KOH dissolves in seconds in CH3OH
Some of it does, but it takes about 10 minutes or more to dissolve
what you'd use to make a batch.
o The process has not faster than one with NaOH
No, and
Hi!
Difference is only in total cost of the product.
I'll try to save every cent because the price of
biodiesel produced here is very close to bulk
price of dynodiesel. I mean biodiesel produced
from fresh not refined vegetable oils. So, my decision is NaOH.
At 19:06 24.12.05, you wrote:
You've still got to find end uses for your co-/waste-products. Sodium
generates an environmental cost. Potassium generates a monetary and
environmental savings. You might care to see how much the savings in
fertilizer offsets the higher cost of the catalyst before you make a
final decision.
Everyone seems to use more NaOh in the process. At this point I plan on
using KOH even though I must use more.
I can purchase 90% KOH for .725/lb and NaOH beads for 51/lb.
The time savings and ease in mixing KOH is worth the extra cost.
Later in the entire process am I missing something
Sunoco usually sells methanol through their racing gas division. 5
gallons is about 30 bucks
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I am sure now that the camp stove fuel must not be methanol . It has
been over 24 hours and the lye has not dissolved at all. I thought I
had read that the stove fuel
This is what I found for the chemical compostion of wood naptha used
for denaturing ethanol:
Composition of wood naptha:
There is no prescriptive list of ingredients, but some or all of the
following are found in approved synthetic wood naptha:
* pyridine,
* pyridine bases,
* allyl
it started yet I
seem to mix it for much longer to get it to dissolve.
Hope this helps.
Derick
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bob allen
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 5:26 PM
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] NaOH does
I am working on making my first batch of Biodiesel and I can not seem to get the NaOH to dissolve in the methanol. I am using Ozark Trail brand stove fuel purchased from WalMart for methanol. I did read on the website that the NaOH can be difficult to dissolve but it has been 18 hours since I have
are you sure that it is methanol? camp fuel in my parts- the Ozarks- is white
gas , basically
gasoline.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am working on making my first batch of Biodiesel and I can not seem to
get the NaOH to dissolve in the methanol. I am using Ozark Trail brand
stove fuel
I am sure now that the camp stove fuel must not be methanol . It has been over 24 hours and the lye has not dissolved at all. I thought I had read that the stove fuel would work but I guess I was wrong. On the back of the can it says it contains a refined petroluem naptha. Now I am right or wrong
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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] NaOH
Hi Bill
Hi Ray,
When I open a new bag of caustic ( I have used NaOH micro pearls and KOH
flake) the caustic is as white as snow. It turns opaque when it begins
absorbing
Hello all,
I have a questions before i want to start with making my first test batch with the single stage method.
I bought NaOH from a hardware store, but it looks white so it is not pure. Does somebody know how i can mesure the moisture content of this NaOH so i can compensate for all
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- Original Message -
From:
Marc
Arends
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 9:52 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] NaOH
Hello all,
I have a questions before i
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From:
Marc
Arends
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 2:52 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] NaOH
Hello all,
I have a questions before i want to start with making my first test batch
with the single stage method.
I bought NaOH
Arends
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 2:52 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] NaOH
Hello all,
I have a questions before i want to start with making my first test
batch with
the single stage method.
I bought NaOH from a hardware store, but it looks white so
or 3
times per week.
Bill Clark
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] NaOH
Bill:
I have not seen the stuff for a while, but I believe when NaOH is
new and anhydrous it is opaque, you can
7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] NaOH
Bill:
I have not seen the stuff for a while, but I believe when NaOH is
new and anhydrous it is opaque, you can almost see through it.
As it absorbs water it turns white. It has been 20 years, so...
Ray
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:03:45 -0400, Bill Clark
Hello,
I can't seem to get lye completely dissolved in the methanol.
3.5g 98.5% NaOH, or 4.5 g NaOH, in 200ml 99.9% methanol - mixing,
stirring, letting sit, waiting, magnetic stirring, days and days'
waiting, tilting - regardless.
There is always a thin white sediment that quickly settles
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From: Robin Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 21:39
Subject: [biofuel] NaOH Supply
Is there a typical non-commercial source of sodium hydroxide? I was
reading on the journey to forever page that it is something you can get at a
hardware
If you;re in the US, that would be 'lye' - drain cleaner- the Red Devil
brand specifically. It has to be pure 100% lye- (and Red Devil says so on
the label in TINY little letters if you squint hard enough). The other odd
varieties of drain cleaner (crystal,foaming,newformula,liquid whatever)
- Original Message -
From: Jonathan Pennington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[snip]
I guess my worry is that it will absorb
significant amounts of water vapor while I'm measuring it for the
methoxide.
Jonathan, I'm from Tropical North Queensland Oz where the humidity seldom
dips below 90%.
Has anyone tried storing lye in oil to prevent it from absorbing
moisture? Here in Coastal South Carolina, USA, the humidity is 75% on
a dry day. It might cause a problem when making the sodium methoxide,
but then again, I'm still waiting on my supplies, so I haven't played
with anything yet.
Have you tried putting it in a sealed container?
--- Jonathan Pennington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has anyone tried storing lye in oil to prevent it from absorbing
moisture? Here in Coastal South Carolina, USA, the humidity is 75% on
a dry day. It might cause a problem when making the sodium
I don't actually have it yet, it's still being shipped. I was just
wondering about doing that. I guess my worry is that it will absorb
significant amounts of water vapor while I'm measuring it for the
methoxide.
-J
* Martin Klingensmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020421 09:48]:
Have you tried putting
Tennants, Hayes or any other chemicals supplier in the yellow pages
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