Re: [Biofuel] Foolproof Method

2006-09-18 Thread Joe Street
Hey Mike; Ok I don't get this. I've seen this kind of comment a few times before and I don't see the logic in it. It takes me all of what 5 maybe 10 minutes to do a titration. Isn't it more fuss and work to do bracket test batches than just to run a titration? Joe Mike Weaver wrote:

Re: [Biofuel] Foolproof Method

2006-09-18 Thread Mike Weaver
Nah, the oil's always the same - it never changes - there's very litle range. When I get it I usually let it settle, then do a quick 3 batches with 1 liter shakes in a mason jar ( I know- I release the pressure). The batches are probably pointless also. If I didn't have such steady oil I'd

Re: [Biofuel] Foolproof Method

2006-09-16 Thread Mike Weaver
] Foolproof Method Howdy Tom, Thomas Kelly wrote: Hello All, I've had success making quality BD using the single stage base method. I've become curious about the Foolproof Method (two stage Acid/Base) for a number of reasons. I've read JTF a few times and have browsed

[Biofuel] Foolproof Method

2006-09-15 Thread Thomas Kelly
Hello All, I've had success making quality BD using the single stage base method. I've become curious about the Foolproof Method (two stage Acid/Base) for a number of reasons. I've read JTF a few times and have browsed the archives. Could somebody experienced with the method help with a

Re: [Biofuel] Foolproof Method

2006-09-15 Thread bob allen
Howdy Tom, Thomas Kelly wrote: Hello All, I've had success making quality BD using the single stage base method. I've become curious about the Foolproof Method (two stage Acid/Base) for a number of reasons. I've read JTF a few times and have browsed the archives. Could

Re: [Biofuel] Foolproof Method

2006-09-15 Thread Thomas Kelly
have just ordered 97% sulfuric acid. Thanks for the tips. Tom - Original Message - From: bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Foolproof Method Howdy

Re: [Biofuel] Foolproof Method

2006-09-15 Thread JJJN
% sulfuric acid. Thanks for the tips. Tom - Original Message - From: bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Foolproof Method Howdy Tom, Thomas Kelly wrote

Re: [Biofuel] FOOLPROOF METHOD

2005-06-14 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Roy Keith: Things arn't as bad as you see them with me... OR ... maybe ther are worse than I know. First ... I do know how to SWIRL lye in water .. the question involved (as I found out) the soda ash that was setteling on the bottom. Nothing in Journeytoforever or anywhere else

[Biofuel] FOOLPROOF METHOD

2005-06-12 Thread ROY Washbish
Hi All I have tried the foolproof method twice now and have had bad results. I'm trying this method becauseI know I have CRUDDY oil. This has been the only oil I have been able to get so far (from several sources) so I'm trying to get it to work. It's SOYBEAN OIL from Chinese restaurants. It's

Re: [Biofuel] FOOLPROOF METHOD

2005-06-12 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Roy You said once before I also am looking to go BIO the simplest way. You're making a mistake if you think the acid-base method is the simplest way. Not for novices it says at the top of that page, and for good reason: NOTE: The two-stage biodiesel processes are advanced methods, not

Re: [biofuel] Foolproof method

2004-02-14 Thread Appal Energy
PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Foolproof method Hi all, Maybe a stupid question, and with all respect to Aleks, but I am making BD now for allmost two years, using the single base methode, without titration, just use 150 liter

Re: [biofuel] Foolproof method

2004-02-14 Thread Appal Energy
- From: Pieter Koole [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Foolproof method Hi Todd, What prices are you mentioning ?? In Holland I pay 0,80 per liter acid, which can be sulfuric acid (98%) or posphoric acid (80%). I

Re: [biofuel] Foolproof method

2004-02-14 Thread Keith Addison
Netherlands. - Original Message - From: Scott Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 11:44 PM Subject: [biofuel] Foolproof method I wanted to try Alek's foolproof method, but the couple of sites that I've found via the Internet

Re: [biofuel] Foolproof method

2004-02-14 Thread Pieter Koole
as a result of any virus being passed on. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 8:26 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Foolproof method Dag Pieter Maar... Hi all, Maybe a stupid question, and with all respect

Re: [biofuel] Foolproof method

2004-02-14 Thread Appal Energy
] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 7:24 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Foolproof method I am very sorry if I suggested to put other people off the methods you recommend. Perhaps it is allso caused by not using the right terms ( I am not from an English speaking country

Re: [biofuel] Foolproof method

2004-02-13 Thread Appal Energy
industrial supply house(s) in the Philadelphia-Baltimore area. There have to be several. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Scott Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 5:44 PM Subject: [biofuel] Foolproof method I wanted

Re: [biofuel] Foolproof method

2004-02-13 Thread Pieter Koole
by a third party or in case of electronic communications as a result of any virus being passed on. - Original Message - From: Scott Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 11:44 PM Subject: [biofuel] Foolproof method I wanted to try Alek's

Re: [biofuel] Foolproof method

2004-02-13 Thread Pieter Koole
Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 5:32 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Foolproof method Try a warehouse for commercial/municipal pool/water treatment. You should be able to get either for less than $20 a gallon, more like $12 for sulfuric and $18

[biofuel] Foolproof method

2002-06-10 Thread William Clark
Hey yall- I am Bill Clark and new to the group as well as biodiesel. I am currently developing a Southeastern Center for Sustainable Communities for Audubon International. I am located in S.E. Alabama, U.S.A. I have many questions so I will pose them 1 at a time. When settling out water from

Re: [biofuel] Foolproof method

2002-06-10 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
Bill - sunlight will degrade vegoils. Best to store in dark and use as soon as possible. Edward Beggs, BES, MSc http://www.biofuels.ca on 6/10/02 2:22 PM, William Clark at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey yall- I am Bill Clark and new to the group as well as biodiesel. I am currently

Re: [biofuel] Foolproof method

2002-06-10 Thread William Clark
biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Foolproof method Bill - sunlight will degrade vegoils. Best to store in dark and use as soon as possible. Edward Beggs, BES, MSc http://www.biofuels.ca on 6/10/02 2:22 PM, William Clark at [EMAIL

Re: [biofuel] Foolproof method

2002-06-10 Thread Greg and April
- Original Message - From: William Clark Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 15:22 Subject: [biofuel] Foolproof method When settling out water from the WVO, one method suggests heating to 60 deg C for 15 minutes. Is this temperature a minimum, same for time? My reason for asking is that we

Re: [biofuel] Foolproof method

2002-06-10 Thread Christopher Witmer
All this is based on my reading rather than actual experience, but as long as the solar radiation is only being applied to the biodiesel as heat, the controlled use of that heat to rid WVO of water should present no problem. (Are you sure the time and temp you gave is correct? It sounds more

Re: [biofuel] Foolproof method

2002-06-10 Thread William Clark
PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Foolproof method All this is based on my reading rather than actual experience, but as long as the solar radiation is only being applied to the biodiesel as heat, the controlled use of that heat

Re: [biofuel] Foolproof method

2002-06-10 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
PROTECTED] To: Biofuel-JTF biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Foolproof method Bill - sunlight will degrade vegoils. Best to store in dark and use as soon as possible. Edward Beggs, BES, MSc http://www.biofuels.ca on 6/10/02 2:22

Re: [biofuel] Foolproof method

2002-06-10 Thread Christopher Witmer
Well, on paper at least you want to minimize exposure to heat prior to use. But I assume you are not planning to store the stuff for weeks or months in constant exposure to direct sun, and if the duration is short (say, a day or two) your vehicle may not notice any practical difference, even

RE: [biofuel] Foolproof method

2002-06-10 Thread Hall, Edward C.
, 2002 11:16 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Foolproof method Edward- Thanks for your reply. Still wondering about time a temp. It would still be possible for me to heat with solar without exposing oil to sunlight. For now, WVO will be used as collected. Bill C. - Original