If our planet were the size of a basketball, the thickness of the breathable
atmosphere
would be no more than one quarter of a millimeter, a barely noticeable
6-mile-high
smear over the surface of the ball. The Earth is a ball of rock covered by a
thin smear
of atmosphere and ocean.--
Ken,
Isn't Wake Island a mid pacific US military
installation? I think they refuel ships and jets
mainly so the figures could be skewed as they
sometimes are.
I have heard arguments that the US per capita energy
use is similarly skewed since it does not take into
account the huge petroleum use
Where is wake island and what are the people doing there, powering a death
ray?
Ken C.
At 01:05 AM 2/25/02 -0600, you wrote:
Located a list of about 220 countries[?] indicating BTU use per person.
World Per Capita Total Primary Energy Consumption, 1980-1999
(Million Btu)
Location
A HREF=http://www.buck.com/cntry-cd/factbook/wq.htm;The World Factbook page
on Wake Island/A
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Terrific report, thank you. Added CO2 (carbon dioxide) to the BTU table
to get some prospective.
Located a list of about 220
Located a list of about 220 countries[?] indicating BTU use per person.
World Per Capita Total Primary Energy Consumption, 1980-1999
(Million Btu)
Location1999
÷÷÷
Africa 15
Far East and Oceania 29
It is unclear to me the meaning.
Average BTU consumed Per Passenger mile by mode of travel:
Analogy follows.
SUV: 4,591
Air: 4,123
Bus: 3,729
Car: 3,672
Train: 2,138
Source: Bureau of Transportation Statistics
http://199.79.179.77/btsprod/nts/Ch4_web/4-20.htm
(notes from site above)
- Original Message -
From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:57 AM
Subject: Trains - was Re: [biofuel] Making Something From Nothing
Here's something someone sent me about the London Underground - the Metro.
Very interesting
: robert luis rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Making Something From Nothing
Keith Addison wrote:
(this is actually robert's comment from a previous post)
I'm working on
a cogeneration scheme for my wood
kirk wrote:
I know the chimney
needs hot gases to work,
Since it is reduced density generating the needed lift it seems to me you
could use a well insulated stack and extract the heat at the last moment.
True. However, as long as the stack remains inside my house, it contributes
to
Ah, Robert, I'm but a bear of small brain - frankly, I don't know
what the hell you're talking about! :-) What's a scroll expander? No,
don't tell me. Don't be discouraged either - plenty of others here
know exactly what you're talking about, I'm sure.
I get the idea though. I'm also bothered
By the way, there's a major magazine that wants to run a big piece on
trains, the lack thereof, in the US mainly, also elsewhere. I've been
asked to write it, but backed off - too much research, too far away.
I guess I could contribute on the elsewhere bit. Anyone know a
trains guru/advocate
Here's something someone sent me about the London Underground - the Metro.
Keith
Cleanliness on London Underground
During Autumn of 2000, a team of scientists at the Department of
Forensics at University College London removed a row of passenger
seats from a Central Line tube carriage for
.
They never seem to make it to market though.
Kirk
- Original Message -
From: robert luis rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Making Something From Nothing
kirk wrote:
I know the chimney
needs hot
Never seem to make it market? Geez, do a google on it you can buy
all sorts of them from numerous manufacturers. I'm not on the computer
where I have that stuff bookmarked or I'd post some -- but I'm also sure
I've posted some before, if not here, perhaps at wastewatts. Look for
Harmon wrote:
Never seem to make it market? Geez, do a google on it you can buy
all sorts of them from numerous manufacturers. I'm not on the computer
where I have that stuff bookmarked or I'd post some -- but I'm also sure
I've posted some before, if not here, perhaps at wastewatts. Look
My blathering* idiosyncrasies about heat, water and gasses brought me to a
better understanding of what
Lester R Brown wrote in his articles and the connection I drew from another ÷
impart said,
If sea ice at the poles shrinks significantly, the earth could respond by
warming because of
SkyTran
http://www.SkyTran.net homepage
How energy efficient is SkyTran?
Mathematically compares:
Light Rail, Diesel Bus, Auto, Electric Car, SkyTran (estimated at 200
plus mpg)
http://www.SkyTran.net/faq/index.htm#efficient
Keith Addison wrote:
By
and the area has several days in a row with no sun.
- Original Message -
From: Harmon Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Making Something From Nothing
Never seem to make it market? Geez, do a google
, February 21, 2002 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Making Something From Nothing
Never seem to make it market? Geez, do a google on it you can buy
all sorts of them from numerous manufacturers. I'm not on the computer
where I have that stuff bookmarked or I'd post some -- but I'm also sure
I've
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Making Something From Nothing
Which website is that? Did you check out this
(http://www.peltier-info.com/generators.html) that Keith just posted,
gives a whole list of manufacturers of TEGS, places to buy surplus one,
etc. And the company doing the truck muffler
Keith Addison wrote:
By the way, there's a major magazine that wants to run a big piece on
trains, the lack thereof, in the US mainly, also elsewhere. I've been
asked to write it, but backed off - too much research, too far away.
I guess I could contribute on the elsewhere bit. Anyone know
kirk wrote:
I emailed the truck site twice on different occassions with no response.
If you have a URL for $5 a watt TEG please share. I would love to get some.
Kirk
Here's the prices I got from them back at the beginning of Dec. Note
that he says these prices will soon drop.
Here's
Here's another interesting technology to use with wood fires, not a TEG, but
a TPV,
thermophotovoltaic. Essentially uses the heat and light from the fire to
produce electricity.
http://www.jxcrystals.com/
--
Harmon Seaver
CyberShamanix
http://www.cybershamanix.com
check out www.allelectronics.com they have some peltier junction units.
anton
-Original Message-
From: Harmon Seaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 4:09 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Making Something From Nothing
Here's another
- Original Message -
From: Anton Berteaux [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 6:20 PM
Subject: RE: [biofuel] Making Something From Nothing
check out www.allelectronics.com they have some peltier junction units.
anton
-Original Message
Keith Addison wrote:
(this is actually robert's comment from a previous post)
I'm working on
a cogeneration scheme for my wood stove to increase the efficiency
of my biofuel
resource. (And no, it's not going very well!!!)
to which Keith responded:
Do you know Kirk's group?
Thanks Keith.
Still looking for one that lists all 167? countries of the world
BUT found a chart that list the top 30 countries of the world.
Table 1. Top BTU Consumption by Country - 1995.
Per Capita BTUs (Millions)
India 11
Brazil25
China27
Mexico
Hi Martin
The US is at the top because it is the largest highly industrialized nation.
The gross size doesn't account for it though. The average American
uses twice as much energy as the average European or Japanese. In
terms of production, Americans produce more per head than Europeans
and
I understand what you mean after reading these interesting but brief
capsulated
Related Articles: [thanks for the link]
You're most welcome, Hoagy. Maybe TomPaine.com might be carrying
further excerpts. By the way, the current issue of Mother Earth News
has a major essay by Lester brown on
Keith Addison wrote:
The gross size doesn't account for it though. The average American
uses twice as much energy as the average European or Japanese. In
terms of production, Americans produce more per head than Europeans
and about the same as Japanese, but they use twice as much energy
Keith Addison wrote:
The gross size doesn't account for it though. The average American
uses twice as much energy as the average European or Japanese. In
terms of production, Americans produce more per head than Europeans
and about the same as Japanese, but they use twice as much
In the article below it mentioned, Europeans routinely use 30
percent less energy per unit of gross national
product than Americans do. Could anyone point me to a website(s)
that could elaborate or compare the
differences. Thank you.
This should get you started:
US Energy Information
http://www.tompaine.com/feature.cfm/ID/5027
TOMPAINE.com -
Book Excerpt
Making Something From Nothing
The Quixotic Logic Of The Bush Energy Plan, And How To Fix It
Lester Brown is chairman of the Worldwatch Institute's board.
Editor's Note: This excerpt, the fourth in a five-part weekly
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