Re: [biofuel] Re: Global Warming

2004-02-16 Thread Dave Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mean that the article that is on the 'The Nature Institute website, at: http://www.netfuture.org should be removed from public viewing. Thank you for your opinion, Dr. Lysenko... Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels

[biofuel] Re: Global Warming

2004-02-15 Thread npat1
Paul, I mean that the article that is on the 'The Nature Institute website, at: http://www.netfuture.org should be removed from public viewing. I do not mean that the reference you made to it should be removed. The article has far too many falsehoods. It confuses readers about facts that

Re: [biofuel] Re: Global Warming

2004-02-15 Thread rico suavae
I wasn't refering to the reference ether.Iam also aware of some misleading statments in the article.But as Thomas Payne put it I will defend his right to make those mistakes.I live in a country that is being consumed by censorship in all venues.This may be the last place for free speech.It

Re: [biofuel] Re: Global Warming

2004-02-15 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Paul I wasn't refering to the reference ether.Iam also aware of some misleading statments in the article.But as Thomas Payne put it I will defend his right to make those mistakes. I think that was Voltaire, but maybe Tom Payne said something similar. I may disagree with what you say,

Re: [biofuel] Re: Global Warming

2004-02-14 Thread rico suavae
Patrick Neuman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Pedro Victor Cuesta/LABEIN wrote: Look at this article: Water, Energy and Global Warming D'Aleo, M. and Edelglass, E. http://www.netfuture.org/ni/misc/pub/daleo/warm/warm.html#daleo Pedro Pedro, at your suggestion, I reviewed the article

[biofuel] Re: Global Warming Alarmists Are the Ones Filled with Hot Air

2004-02-13 Thread Patrick Neuman
x-charset ISO-8859-1--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Could you do that, by checking the historical humidity, or dew point? Greg H. From: Jeff I think that one of the bench marks of global warming would be to see how much more water vapor is in the air now, then 20 years ago. It would

[biofuel] Re: Global Warming

2004-02-13 Thread Patrick Neuman
x-charset ISO-8859-1--- Pedro Victor Cuesta/LABEIN wrote: Look at this article: Water, Energy and Global Warming D'Aleo, M. and Edelglass, E. http://www.netfuture.org/ni/misc/pub/daleo/warm/warm.html#daleo Pedro Pedro, at your suggestion, I reviewed the article titled 'Water, Energy and

[biofuel] Re: Global Warming Alarmists Are the Ones Filled with Hot Air

2004-02-12 Thread Jeff
Water is a unique substance. It is the only substance, in the world, that expands when it gets hot as well as expands when it gets cold. I think a lot of people are not taking this into account on the global warming debate. The earth starts getting hot, the water absorbs the heat. Water is a

Re: [biofuel] Re: Global Warming Alarmists Are the Ones Filled with Hot Air

2004-02-12 Thread Greg and April
Could you do that, by checking the historical humidity, or dew point? Greg H. - Original Message - From: Jeff To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 08:40 Subject: [biofuel] Re: Global Warming Alarmists Are the Ones Filled with Hot Air I think

[biofuel] Re: Global Warming Alarmists Are the Ones Filled with Hot Air

2004-02-10 Thread tomasjkn
x-charset ISO-8859-1--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Ken Gotberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another journalistic point of view? What the data shows is not warming but cooling: The lower [troposphere] data are often cited as evidence against global warming, because they have as yet failed

Re: [biofuel] Re: Global Warming

2004-02-07 Thread Ken Gotberg
Hi Robert Actually Luis and Walter Alvarez found an iridium spike attributable to exterritorial causes that happened about the time dinosaurs are thought to have died out. http://town.morrison.co.us/dinosaur/extinction/meteor.html Also Buckyballs

[biofuel] Re: Global Warming

2004-02-06 Thread Jeff
I have heard that some parts of Yellowstone Park are now close due to activity underneath the surface. They say it is like a big pancake that keeps expanding and contracting. That is an interesting theory on the Bermuda Triangle. I have never heard that one before. The theories that I have

[biofuel] Re: Global Warming

2004-02-06 Thread eric12856
x-charset ISO-8859-1Very timely news for this topic... http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/02/040204000254.htm Astronomers Unravel A Mystery Of The Dark Ages: Undergraduates' Work Blames Comet For 6th-century 'Nuclear Winter' Scientists at Cardiff University, UK, believe they have

Re: [biofuel] Re: Global Warming

2004-02-06 Thread robert luis rabello
x-charset ISO-8859-1 eric12856 wrote: Very timely news for this topic... http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/02/040204000254.htm Astronomers Unravel A Mystery Of The Dark Ages: Undergraduates' Work Blames Comet For 6th-century 'Nuclear Winter' Scientists at Cardiff University, UK,

[biofuel] Re: Global Warming

2004-02-06 Thread look4bryan
x-charset ISO-8859-1Jeff, I think you need to do some more research. Citing:http://www.technocarb.com/natgasproperties.htm The composition of natural gas is never constant. However, Methane is by far the largest component, its presence accounting for about 95% of the total volume. Other

[biofuel] Re: Global Warming

2004-02-06 Thread the_maniacal_engineer
x-charset ISO-8859-1methane from bio sources - waste treatment etc - often has hydrogen sulfide in it, which is corrosive. I think this is where you go tconfused. methane itself is odorless, colorless, and non-corrosive. The 'gas smell' is added for safety reasons. Same with propane. --- In

[biofuel] Re: Global Warming

2004-02-05 Thread Jeff
x-charset ISO-8859-1I would like to say that I read an article in Dicovery magazine on methane. It hinted that there is a lot of methane at the bottom of the ocean, buried deep in the mud, and that global warming could cause it to be released. The article hinted that methane could of cause

[biofuel] Re: Global Warming

2004-02-05 Thread look4bryan
x-charset ISO-8859-1Methane Hydrate actually, and there is a lot of it on the planet. Discovery likes to point out all the things that can kill us off. Meteors, methane, Yellowstone National Park (seriously), the list goes on. Methane Hydrates could be the next big fuel source. By the way,

[biofuel] Re: Global Warming

2004-02-05 Thread the_maniacal_engineer
x-charset ISO-8859-1is that similar to those carbonated lakes in africa. when the water turns over it releases the dissolved gasses. It killed a bunch of people a few years ago, and potentially could do the same in yellowstone. The way they fixed it in africa was to put pipes into the lake and

[biofuel] Re: Global warming b.s.

2002-06-22 Thread k5farms
Keith Addison I am at the point where I would almost welcome some fairly extreme evidence of worldwide global warming effects just to end the debate. I have simply had it with some of the folks who say that their goal is to remain scientifically objective, but whose real goal is to

[biofuel] Re: Global Warming Hot Air

2001-06-22 Thread kwm_55
On the report from the National Academy of Sciences this may or may not be of interest. Depending upon your own beliefs. Quoted from: http://www.boortz.com/nealznuz.htm THE GLOBAL WARMING DEBATE CONTINUES Last week the National Academy of Sciences released a report on so- called global

[biofuel] Re: Global Warming Hot Air

2001-06-22 Thread kwm_55
...not saying that global warming is not happening, I just question the belief that it is completely caused by man. I do however think we need to do our part though. That is one of the reasons I am here. Trying to do my part. Wayne --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the

[biofuel] Re: Global Warming Hot Air

2001-06-22 Thread Keith Addison
:-) One inevitably gets shoved to one side or the other, eh? If you ain't for us you're against us. Actually I wasn't arguing for or against global warming, I was talking about propaganda, in response to two messages about propaganda. Anyway, if all you've seen so far is computer models, I'd

[biofuel] Re: Global Warming Hot Air

2001-06-22 Thread gjkimlin
This statement by Steitz alludes to an important issue in human influence re climate. I agree that human activities may not have been warming the earth for the last 50 years. The reasons however are important. Surface temperature measurments in Europe did not show rises for most of this

[biofuel] Re: Global Warming Hot Air

2001-06-21 Thread gjkimlin
There is a very simple explanation for this. The satellite data are more comprehensive and more accurate than the surface data. They are telling us that claims that the earth is overheating are just hot air. If the global warming modelers admitted that, their gravy train would derail. The gram

[biofuel] Re: Global Warming Hot Air

2001-06-21 Thread Keith Addison
- A little stir about burning biomass- If it rots instead it also produces some CO2. More importantly it produces methane that has 20 times the glasshouse effect of CO2 and is lighter. Regards Harry. Depends what you mean by rot. I think rot = putrefaction (anaerobic, without oxygen) produces

[biofuel] RE; global warming

2001-03-06 Thread physkid
Slowly catching up on the number of posts at the end of last week and over the weekend. I don't know whether anyone has responded to this or not yet, but I couldn't wait to read further, I had to respond now. I am usually not rude, and I will attempt to keep myself in check, but...are you