Re: [biofuel] Solid Catalyst

2002-01-10 Thread glenne1949
Ted, in my experience, working with a number of inventors in the private sector (in a small Government program providing grant support for the development of inventions - DOE's Energy-Related Inventions Program), after the development and testing of the prototype, and this was particularly

[biofuel] solid catalyst

2002-01-10 Thread David E. Cruse
Hi Keith and Everyone, I would be glad to post a small part of the process using a solid catalyst from the Fox/Ginosaur et al Patent. Hopefully this will give everyone an idea as to how difficult the process really is and may shed some light on the ongoing mystery about this fabled process. It

Re: [biofuel] Solid Catalyst

2002-01-10 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Glenn snip Is Lockheed Martin going to market this particular technology? Not unless it falls within their mission interests to do so. Which it might do - they're involved in hybrids, and biodiesel makes good sense with hybrids. Is the Government going to market this technology? I don't

Re: [biofuel] Solid Catalyst

2002-01-10 Thread Arne P. Ryason
I just did a search of the US patent office website entered Fox AND Ginosar in the inventor terms search and got patent # 6,103,948: Solid catalyzed isoparafin alkylation at supercritical fluid and near-supercritical fluid conditions Abstract: This invention relates to an improved method

Re: [biofuel] Solid Catalyst

2002-01-10 Thread David E. Cruse
Hi Arne, This is not the Patent on the biodiesel process ! David Cruse - Original Message - From: Arne P. Ryason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Solid Catalyst I just did a search of the US

[biofuel] Solid catalyst

2002-01-09 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc
Has anybody done any digging on-line? What do we know about this process so far? I must have missed earlier posts, so all I have is the name INEEL and the fact that it involves a solid catalyst. Marc de Piolenc -- Remember September 11, 2001 but don't forget July 4, 1776 They that can give up

RE: [biofuel] Solid catalyst,

2002-01-09 Thread AndrĀŽs Stepkowski
09, 2002 12:48 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Solid catalyst, From: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_link.html US Department of Energy Idaho National Engineering and Environmental Laboratory (INEEL) scientists have developed a new method that produces a higher grade biodiesel with less waste

[biofuel] Solid Catalyst

2002-01-09 Thread jfhdally
Or rather no catalyst have a look at http://www.bioproducts-bioenergy.gov/pdfs/bcota/abstracts/19/z191.pdf having a go at a processor but I don't think ill stand too close while I pump the methanol into a 350degrees C tank at 4000PSI ;-) hope this was a uni professor and not a bored 12YO

[biofuel] Solid catalyst KGPE

2002-01-09 Thread Christian
- Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 1:48 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Solid catalyst, The Fox-Ginosar process (INEEL) apparently uses a polymer. I posted this to the list a long time ago, I don't know if anyone

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2002-01-09 Thread Keith Addison
@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Solid catalyst, goat industries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Dana, there are people interested in finding greener recipes for making biodiesel. They do seem to exist but are generally highly guarded industrial secrets. I got a bit disallusioned

RE: [biofuel] Solid catalyst,

2002-01-09 Thread Keith Addison
PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 12:48 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Solid catalyst, From: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_link.html US Department of Energy Idaho National Engineering and Environmental Laboratory (INEEL) scientists have developed

Re: [biofuel] Solid Catalyst

2002-01-09 Thread glenne1949
Re the solid catalyst that was presumedly developed at Idaho National Energy Lab about three years ago. How much info was divulged at the time and was any attempt ever made to patent the technology? Patent laws change, but the last time I looked at it, after a public disclosure, the inventor

Re: [biofuel] Solid Catalyst

2002-01-09 Thread Ted Swarts
Swarts Kelowna, British Columbia - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Solid Catalyst Re the solid catalyst that was presumedly developed at Idaho National Energy Lab about three years ago

Re: [biofuel] Solid Catalyst

2002-01-09 Thread Keith Addison
Please see David Cruse's message of 1/8/02, Re: [biofuel] Solid catalyst,, message # 10743: The famed Fox/Ginosaur process using a solid catalyst, (which to this date) hasn't been used commercially, is on Delphion.com. I was lucky enough to download a copy of the Fox/Ginosaur patent from

RE: [biofuel] Solid catalyst,

2002-01-09 Thread Dana Linscott
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 12:48 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Solid catalyst, From: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_link.html US Department of Energy Idaho National Engineering and Environmental Laboratory (INEEL) scientists have developed a new method that produces

[biofuel] Solid catalyst,

2002-01-08 Thread goat industries
Yes, Dana, there are people interested in finding greener recipes for making biodiesel. They do seem to exist but are generally highly guarded industrial secrets. I got a bit disallusioned by the polluting effect of the basic methanol/lye method as it produces a lot of mirky water in the refining

Re: [biofuel] Solid catalyst,

2002-01-08 Thread Christian
: Monday, January 07, 2002 11:30 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Solid catalyst, Arne, I have not heard any further info on the process you describe. Of course this type of continuous process biodiesel/glycerin production would REVOLUTIONIZE home production of BD if made available. It would also work

Re: [biofuel] Solid catalyst,

2002-01-08 Thread David E. Cruse
. Good Hunting, David Cruse - Original Message - From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Solid catalyst, In my humble opinion, the process described seems the counterpart to the alchemists recipe

Re: [biofuel] Solid catalyst,

2002-01-08 Thread Keith Addison
The Fox-Ginosar process (INEEL) apparently uses a polymer. I posted this to the list a long time ago, I don't know if anyone ever picked it up: A message from Mike Pelly re solid phase catalysts: I have been getting ready to pick up some of that type of catalysts but have not till now. Not

Re: [biofuel] Solid catalyst,

2002-01-08 Thread Keith Addison
in Argentina). Hope to hear more on the subject Regards, Christian - Original Message - From: Dana Linscott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 11:30 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Solid catalyst, Arne, I have not heard any further info on the process

Re: [biofuel] Solid catalyst,

2002-01-08 Thread Keith Addison
goat industries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Dana, there are people interested in finding greener recipes for making biodiesel. They do seem to exist but are generally highly guarded industrial secrets. I got a bit disallusioned by the polluting effect of the basic methanol/lye method as it

Re: [biofuel] Solid catalyst,

2002-01-08 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Solid catalyst, goat industries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Dana, there are people interested in finding greener recipes for making biodiesel. They do seem to exist but are generally highly guarded industrial secrets. I got a bit disallusioned by the polluting

[biofuel] Solid catalyst

2002-01-07 Thread Arne P. Ryason
Is there any known progress on the INEEL process which uses a solid catalyst to produce biodiesel and food grade glycerin? Two scientists have developed a continuous process that eliminates the alcohol, base, acid, water wash steps of making biodiesel. Also, it is a continuous process,

Re: [biofuel] Solid catalyst,

2002-01-07 Thread Dana Linscott
Arne, I have not heard any further info on the process you describe. Of course this type of continuous process biodiesel/glycerin production would REVOLUTIONIZE home production of BD if made available. It would also work well in conjunction with the inexpensive WVO/SVO processing modules I am