Re: [Biofuel] [off topic]US marines 'massscred Iraqi civilians'

2006-03-22 Thread Jason Katie
Support the Troops, not the Policy. I dont believe that the soldiers from any country are working FOR their government, they are working for the fact that they need to support their families, and the military, crappy a job though it may be, will still pay rent and put food out for their kids.

Re: [Biofuel] what is best sources for WVO?

2006-03-22 Thread Jason Katie
assuming the food is any good, i would wager that the Italian restaurants would have an easier supply of oil because true Italian food is very forgiving, although sparing, with the oils, unless it is your typical american knockoff that serves fries and grease burgers with soggy spaghetti

Re: [Biofuel] [off topic]US marines 'massscred Iraqi civilians'

2006-03-22 Thread Keith Addison
Well now, E. in Montana. It was your wife who joined the list, not you. Now you say we joined the list, but there was no we, just her. Her message to the list administrators said nothing about sharing a joint account with you, let alone a joint list membership. She was twice referred to the

Re: [Biofuel] [off topic]US marines 'massscred Iraqi civilians'

2006-03-22 Thread Tom Irwin
Hello All, I think far too many people get their information from the boob tube. Very few people begin their discussion of the current war in Iraq with its starting point at around 1980. I have talked with more than a few of my countrymen and many still think this is a war caused by Saddam

Re: [Biofuel] Global warming, oceans warming up, earth's core climate changes

2006-03-22 Thread Tom Irwin
Hello Martin and All, I have a simple question. Where is the author´s substantial evidence? Science mag.org may not be a peer reviewed journal. Tom From: Martin Kemple [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:59:04 -0300Subject: Re: [Biofuel]

Re: [Biofuel] [off topic]US marines 'massscred Iraqi civilians'

2006-03-22 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Jason Support the Troops, not the Policy. What's the difference? Support guns but not shooting? What sense does that make? I dont believe that the soldiers from any country are working FOR their government, they are working for the fact that they need to support their families, and the

[Biofuel] best source for WVO

2006-03-22 Thread ricalls
as i am just starting myself, i am thinking towards donut shops. they usually fry no meats in their veg oil and would have less fats. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] best source for WVO

2006-03-22 Thread ROY Washbish
Hi All Don't donut shops use LARD that is SOLID at room temp? Isn't that lard full of sugar? Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as i am just starting myself, i am thinking towards donut shops. they usually fry no meats in their veg oil and would have less

Re: [Biofuel] [off topic]US marines 'massscred Iraqi civilians'

2006-03-22 Thread Appal Energy
Waving your national flag in a global village like this is like farting in church. Chuckle..., chuckle..., snarf..., smurf... ROFL ROFL :-) Glad I wasn't sipping tea when it was read. Keith Addison wrote: Well now, E. in Montana. It was your wife who joined the list, not you. Now you

Re: [Biofuel] [off topic]US marines 'massscred Iraqi civilians'

2006-03-22 Thread Michael Redler
This is certainly a tangled web of deception and accountability.The left calls it a "poverty draft" when recruiters take advantage of inner citykids and sell them the whole "serve your country and yourself by learning a useful vocation or paying for college in the military".Those on the far

[Biofuel] Stop Iran War Plot! Refute 9/11 Lies Re Muslims

2006-03-22 Thread D. Mindock
Stop Iran War Plot! Refute 9/11 Lies Re Muslims.Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truthwww.mujca.comMohammed Cartoons Part 2, by Webster TarpleyTHE REAL CASUS BELLI: THE IRAN OIL BOURSEwww.mujca.com/cartoons.htmSee also www.911review.com/articles/griffin/madison.html etc.Much of

Re: [Biofuel] [off topic]US marines 'massscred Iraqi civilians'

2006-03-22 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Tom Hello All, I think far too many people get their information from the boob tube. Very few people begin their discussion of the current war in Iraq with its starting point at around 1980. Or 1920? I have talked with more than a few of my countrymen and many still think this is a

[Biofuel] FW: Dedicated to the Victims of 9/11*** A MUST SEE!***

2006-03-22 Thread D. Mindock
This is a must see link.Of Donald B. JeffriesSent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 11:19 PMTo: Undisclosed RecipientSubject: [raymcbeealliance] Dedicated to the Victims of 9/11Friends,Now, here's a most disturbing video. If you do want to see it, set aside 1hour 20 minutes to watch it - it's very

Re: [Biofuel] what is best sources for WVO?

2006-03-22 Thread Kenji James Fuse
After travelling across the USA and Canada on used grease, I definitely recommend trying the Asian places first. Nine out of ten times, they have the cleanest oil. Here at home, I get all the oil I need from two Japanese restaurants, and a fancy-pants place where a friend of mine works. Good

Re: [Biofuel] [off topic]US marines 'massscred Iraqi civilians'

2006-03-22 Thread Keith Addison
From: regina abbott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Continued participation in Biofuel list. Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 07:19:21 -0600 My apology to all for the way I went about things is being held hostage by Kieth. I sent it in before I opened his and your emails. It would be a

Re: [Biofuel] FW: Dedicated to the Victims of 9/11*** A MUST SEE!***

2006-03-22 Thread Evergreen Solutions
Wait a minute you mean somone with a video camera and some video editing software believes there might be a widespread consipiracy involving 9/11? Actually, on a completely different note, I saw an enhanced version of the zapruder film the other day where it looks VERY MUCH like Kennedy was

Re: [Biofuel] [off topic]US marines 'massscred Iraqi civilians'

2006-03-22 Thread Michael Redler
O.K...so much for giving the benefit of the doubt.Your response was better measured than I thought Todd. I read therecent post in this thread and the following quote got my attention:" E ED" in Montana wrote: "It will be in realitive saftey because of American soldiers that died for you

Re: [Biofuel] [off topic]US marines 'massscred Iraqi civilians'

2006-03-22 Thread Joe Street
Mike you are doing such a good job there's nothing left for me to say here :) LOL It's ok I have my George Bush " war criminal" shirt on today so I am still getting my word in today! Joe Michael Redler wrote: O.K...so much for giving the benefit of the doubt. Your response was better

Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: [off topic]US marines 'massscred Iraqi civilians'

2006-03-22 Thread Gary L. Green
In 1980 I was stationed in Incirlik, Turkey with the Armed Forces Radio and Television Service (A-fARTS). They had me go out and get sound bites from different units to use on the air with station IDs and holiday promos. I wandered over to a hanger and some gear head goes: Happy Holidays

[Biofuel] Ontario first to subsidize solar electric power

2006-03-22 Thread mark manchester
Apparently viewable at ctvstory.html Jesse Ontario first to subsidize solar electric power Ontario has become Canada's first province to offer cash incentives for homeowners or businesses that install solar electric power generators. Premier Dalton McGuinty made the announcement Tuesday,

[Biofuel] This Year's Garden

2006-03-22 Thread robert luis rabello
Two weeks ago we had snow here. Since then, however, we've had warm days and our trees and shrubs are in a riot of blossoming. The pear tree that I was CERTAIN wouldn't make it through last summer is literally covered in buds, and the two Italian prunes that were so badly infested

Re: [Biofuel] best source for WVO

2006-03-22 Thread Bob Carr
Nor sure about lard, but watch out for sugar in your feedstock. This is an old favourite additive for sabotaging an engine. Reg'ds Bob - Original Message - From: ROY Washbish To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 12:09 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [Biofuel] best source for WVO

2006-03-22 Thread Zeke Yewdall
What exactly would sugar do to an engine? The worst I can think of is clogging some filters or increasing carbon deposits. Zeke On 3/22/06, Bob Carr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nor sure about lard, but watch out for sugar in your feedstock. This is an old favourite additive for sabotaging an

Re: [Biofuel] Global warming, oceans warming up, earth's core climate changes

2006-03-22 Thread Mike McGinness
Tom, Good question. I decided to find out for sure. Here is a link which says: Science is a weekly, peer-reviewed journal that publishes significant original scientific research, plus reviews and analyses

Re: [Biofuel] what is best sources for WVO?

2006-03-22 Thread Jack Schwartz
This news item seemingly has some relevance for the best sources for WVO thread. -- Jack --- Northwest Burger Chain Begins Biodiesel Production Plan March 22, 2006 Vancouver, Washington [RenewableEnergyAccess.com] The Holland, Inc., announced that it has implemented a

Re: [Biofuel] best source for WVO

2006-03-22 Thread Bob Carr
It leaves a horrid toffee like deposit on your valves , pistons, rings and every other part that comes into contact with the fuel. When your piston rings are glued into their grooves, the sugar deposits will find their way into your engine oil where they act as an abrasive on all your bearing

Re: [Biofuel] FW: Dedicated to the Victims of 9/11*** A MUST SEE!***

2006-03-22 Thread Zeke Yewdall
While I don't doubt that certain elements within the US government would wish 9/11 to happen, I find it hard to believe that the CIA is competent enough to pull it off. A far more logical answer is that we were attacked by Bin Laden because we were too incompetent or arrogant to protect ourselves

Re: [Biofuel] best source for WVO

2006-03-22 Thread Jan Warnqvist
Hello Zeke et al. A very unscientific trial feeding sugar into the air intake(without air filter) suggested that sugar does not harm the engine at all, just combusting together with tha gasoline. According to this experiment, the melting points and boiling points of the sugar (sackarose) are

Re: [Biofuel] best source for WVO

2006-03-22 Thread David Miller
Bob Carr wrote: It leaves a horrid toffee like deposit on your valves , pistons, rings and every other part that comes into contact with the fuel. When your piston rings are glued into their grooves, the sugar deposits will find their way into your engine oil where they act as an abrasive on

Re: [Biofuel] best source for WVO

2006-03-22 Thread Bob Carr
Yep, this was a petrol engine, maybe a diesel would be more resilient - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] best source for WVO Bob Carr wrote: It leaves a horrid toffee

Re: [Biofuel] FW: Dedicated to the Victims of 9/11*** A MUST SEE!***

2006-03-22 Thread Marty Phee
One thing that has concerned me for some time is the gov't increasing reliance on outside contracts for many parts of the military and intelligence. During the war they had contractors refusing to delivery supplies because of the dangers. Could a soldier get away with that. There's a lot of

[Biofuel] source for WVO

2006-03-22 Thread ricalls
many donut shop chains in america claim to use pure vegetable oil in response to a new healthy breed of fat american. i cannot speak for the independant donut shop. there is some sugar in the batter that is the donut but i do not know if enough of this sugar transfers into the oil to be of

Re: [Biofuel] best source for WVO

2006-03-22 Thread logan vilas
Wouldn't the sugar be washed out of the biodiesel? It will disolve in water and most if not all of it would be removed. Logan Vilas - Original Message - From: Bob Carr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] best

[Biofuel] UAE, Saudi considering to move reserves out of dollar

2006-03-22 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.middleeastforex.com/index.php?section=147 UAE, Saudi considering to move reserves out of dollar WASHINGTON - A number of Middle Eastern central banks said on Tuesday they would seek to switch reserves from the US greenback to euros. The United Arab Emirates said it was considering

Re: [Biofuel] UAE, Saudi considering to move reserves out of dollar

2006-03-22 Thread Hakan Falk
This is something that worried me for a long time and maybe the sh-t will hit the fan now. Let us hope that this is only a blimp and not a major attack on the US economy. This is potentially a very powerful WMD and directed against US, who was very stupid . It is however understandable if

Re: [Biofuel] UAE, Saudi considering to move reserves out of dollar

2006-03-22 Thread Hakan Falk
I forgot to point out that if this is serious, it will move very fast. A lot of people must be very worried now and try to move silently and fast. It might be unstoppable, once and if it becomes an avalanche. I am happy that I no longer have any dollar assets, but it is many that are less

[Biofuel] [biocarburants] revue de presse biocarburants

2006-03-22 Thread F. Desprez
On demande un label pour les biocarburants http://www.univers-nature.com/inf/inf_actualite1.cgi?id=2204 Une necessaire evaluation globale des biocarburants, INRA, 14/02/06 http://www.inra.fr/presse/evaluation_des_biocarburants Source d'énergie renouvelable en plein essor, les biocarburants

Re: [Biofuel] Let me choose

2006-03-22 Thread JJJN
Imagine if we could get GW to play center :) Michael Redler wrote: Imagine Iraqi leaders starting every session wearing everything but the skates. ...if only the soldiers could be replaced with NHL refs and the worst that ever happened was a few broken bones and some missing teeth.

Re: [Biofuel] best source for WVO

2006-03-22 Thread JJJN
Thank you Logan, Yes you will wash out anything soluble in water, but woe to those that do not wash Biodiesel -they will have more than sugar to deal with. Jim logan vilas wrote: Wouldn't the sugar be washed out of the biodiesel? It will disolve in water and most if not all of it would be

Re: [Biofuel] best source for WVO

2006-03-22 Thread JJJN
Ricalls, They would be an excellent source for your oil but if they use lard you should use the Base Base method after you have mastered the basics. Lard,tallow give a very good grade of fuel with the exception of winter qualities. they also have to change the grease out often if they serve

[Biofuel] Living the Good Life

2006-03-22 Thread BT
http://www.afsc.org/pwork/0202/020219.htm Scott Nearing -- Peace Activist and Practical Conservationist Shepherd Bliss visited the Nearings at their Forest Farm in the mid-1980s and now owns the organic Kokopelli Farm, PO Box 1040, Sebastopol CA 95473; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scott Nearing

[Biofuel] What Is a Patriot?

2006-03-22 Thread BT
http://knowledgenews.net/moxie/samples/portrait-patriot-2.shtml What Is a Patriot? Get the spirit of '76 Does the name William Livingston ring a bell? Probably not. But in 1753, Livingston--a lawyer who led the New Jersey militia during the American Revolution and who became the state's first

Re: [Biofuel] best source for WVO

2006-03-22 Thread Jack Schwartz
Concerning the results of adding sugar to gasoline - I find data suggesting that relatively low amounts of sugar present in gasoline might be fairly harmless compared to 2lbs of sugar poured into a gas tank, resulting in the engine being irreparably damaged within 50 miles, as reported by Bob

Re: [Biofuel] [off topic]US marines 'massscred Iraqi civilians'

2006-03-22 Thread Jason Katie
i didnt get the impression that kieth was MAD at me... where did they come up with that? he said what he was thinking on the subject and went his merry way, whatever these Abbott folks are drinking/smoking they need to share it, because it would make my day at work S much easier. hehehe ;)

[Biofuel] National Socialism Triumphs in USA

2006-03-22 Thread BT
http://www.bigeye.com/losingit.htm Below is a brief excerpt from Mr. Gore Vidal's recent book, Inventing a Nation Yale University Press 2003, p30-31, referring to comments made to America's 1787 Constitutional Convention by the nation's great universal man, Benjamin Franklin: At eighty-one

Re: [Biofuel] [off topic]US marines 'massscred Iraqi civilians'

2006-03-22 Thread Jason Katie
this is going to sound very twisted, but if you think about it it makes sense. corporately speaking having a democratic government (greek definition of "people's rule", not today's garbage)is like a ceo allowing interns to make major decisions, and having only one or a smallgroup of hand

[Biofuel] Agent Faults FBI on 9/11

2006-03-22 Thread D. Mindock
This is just another piece that fits into the puzzle called "What was Cheney doing on 9/11?" I believe he was an active player in the Twin Tower razing. (Building 7, though not hit, went down in the same controlled manner as the towers.) Dubya was sidelined at that elementary school in

Re: [Biofuel] Let me choose

2006-03-22 Thread Michael Redler
Damn! If hockey decided the fate of nations, Canadians would be running the whole show.Of course, Canadianscan't make sense of the "white man's burden", no matter how many Molsonsyou give 'em. So, I wouldn't expect them to do stuff like put Kofe Annan up against the glassand have bench

Re: [Biofuel] [off topic]US marines 'massscred Iraqi civilians'

2006-03-22 Thread Michael Redler
It is twisted, and a pretty close analogy to US policy today (perhaps more than an analogy).Thanks.Mike Jason Katie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this is going to sound very twisted, but if you think about it it makes sense. corporately speaking having a democratic government (greek

Re: [Biofuel] Let me choose

2006-03-22 Thread Kenji James Fuse
The hockey metaphor is a good one. If acumen at hockey is equated with 'running the whole show', then Canada is getting rotten tomatos thrown at her, judging by our Home on Native Land's abyssmal performance at the Torino Winter Olympics ('the true NOR strong NOR free'). If Canada ran the whole

Re: [Biofuel] National Socialism Triumphs in USA

2006-03-22 Thread Michael Redler
Interesting post BT. I'm just sorry that I don't have a lot of time to respond to the link titled A Layman's Look at The Communist Manifesto."The first chapter of the Manifesto is a rambling pseudo-history that rails against the bourgeois as the historically re-incarnated oppressors vis-à-vis

Re: [Biofuel] Let me choose

2006-03-22 Thread Michael Redler
Sorry for the confusion Kenji.My post was a compliment to the sensibilities of the Canadian people, not necessarily it's government.You said: "If Canada ran the whole show, not much would be different than the US running the whole show, except Harper Bush would say please, thank you and pardon